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    Gurus, What would be the chance for 2016 filling dates in next few years?

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    Without any change of legislation, and if you consider normal years like pre COVID, then it may take decade or more to reach 2016. I hope this proves wrong, but I said above considering
    1. fb to eb spillover won't be there
    2. EB1 to eb2 spillover won't be there due to eb1 demand.
    3. 2015 onwards the pending counts are highers.

    Check the movements in 2016 to 2019 Sept. Remember EB demands for then current years like 2008,2009 were much lesser than 2014,2015 or 2016


    Quote Originally Posted by A0000Z View Post
    Gurus, What would be the chance for 2016 filling dates in next few years?

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    Hello -

    I was hoping to get some information regarding when I can expect I485, I765/I131.

    Here are my details -

    EB2 Priority Date of Dec 2012.
    EB2 - EB3 downgrade - Sept of 2021. I do not have an EB3 I-140.
    Receipt date - Oct 4th.
    Biometrics - Nov 4th.
    I did not interfile.

    Currently USCIS predictions for 80% of cases - Nebraska
    I765/I131 - 16.5 months
    I485 - 32.5 months(!!)

    Is anyone in the similar boat as me? When can I expect I765/I131? How accurate are the USCIS predictions?

  4. #5204
    Quote Originally Posted by san_archer View Post
    Hello -

    I was hoping to get some information regarding when I can expect I485, I765/I131.

    Here are my details -

    EB2 Priority Date of Dec 2012.
    EB2 - EB3 downgrade - Sept of 2021. I do not have an EB3 I-140.
    Receipt date - Oct 4th.
    Biometrics - Nov 4th.
    I did not interfile.

    Currently USCIS predictions for 80% of cases - Nebraska
    I765/I131 - 16.5 months
    I485 - 32.5 months(!!)

    Is anyone in the similar boat as me? When can I expect I765/I131? How accurate are the USCIS predictions?
    Just out of curiosity, why haven't you interfiled?

    There are thousands of cases that are still stuck at both NSC and TSC without any activities for more than 18 months now. Interfile has been triggering activities on those 'stuck' cases for many people. I would strongly recommend you consider going that route unless you are ok taking chances with EB3 date movements.
    PD: 01/17/2014 || EB3I || 485/131/765 RD: 10/6/20 || BM: 2/18/21 || ER Submitted: 5/21/21 || ER Approved: 06/01/21 || EAD/AP Card Received: 6/12/21 || RFE (Medical) Received: 8/30/21 || RRFE: 9/9/21 || 485 Approval: Pending

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    Quote Originally Posted by montyp80 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why haven't you interfiled?

    There are thousands of cases that are still stuck at both NSC and TSC without any activities for more than 18 months now. Interfile has been triggering activities on those 'stuck' cases for many people. I would strongly recommend you consider going that route unless you are ok taking chances with EB3 date movements.
    That is valid question. I work for a small company based in rural America. I`m the only immigrant here. The awareness of the immigration process is non-existent, and to make matters worse there is a zero-sum game approach. That`s the reality. I had a tough time convincing the management to downgrade from EB2-EB3, and I was only able to do it in Spet 2021 - almost a year late to the party. Interfiling request would have caused more friction and stand offs. The attorney too is not helpful. So, I end up being at the mercy of them. But things might change, I have convinced them to interfile, might happen in two weeks. I just hope, I`m not too late to the party again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by san_archer View Post
    That is valid question. I work for a small company based in rural America. I`m the only immigrant here. The awareness of the immigration process is non-existent, and to make matters worse there is a zero-sum game approach. That`s the reality. I had a tough time convincing the management to downgrade from EB2-EB3, and I was only able to do it in Spet 2021 - almost a year late to the party. The interfiling request would have caused more friction and stand offs. The attorney too is not helpful. So, I end up being at the mercy of them. But things might change, I have convinced them to interfile, might happen in two weeks. I just hope, I`m not too late to the party again.
    That's great that your company is supportive now. Alternately you can also send just an interfile request (without 485j) directly to the center where your case is pending, yourself. Considering you are with the same employer, USCIS may not even send RFE for 485j.

    You can use this website to generate your interfile request (if you decide to self-file as a backup): https://gcinfo.org/

    Good luck
    PD: 01/17/2014 || EB3I || 485/131/765 RD: 10/6/20 || BM: 2/18/21 || ER Submitted: 5/21/21 || ER Approved: 06/01/21 || EAD/AP Card Received: 6/12/21 || RFE (Medical) Received: 8/30/21 || RRFE: 9/9/21 || 485 Approval: Pending

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    My PD 23 Dec 2014
    I will be filing for the first time in EB2 i485 AOS if the chart opens in July
    What are the chances for FAD to move to Jan 1 2015 with Aug bulletin
    Any remote chances for approval before Sep 30 2022
    I know this is very stupid, just wondering with so many steps like biometrics - is it a must to be completed before I485 approval or is it mainly for EAD

  8. #5208
    Quote Originally Posted by san_archer View Post
    Hello -

    I was hoping to get some information regarding when I can expect I485, I765/I131.

    Here are my details -

    EB2 Priority Date of Dec 2012.
    EB2 - EB3 downgrade - Sept of 2021. I do not have an EB3 I-140.
    Receipt date - Oct 4th.
    Biometrics - Nov 4th.
    I did not interfile.

    Currently USCIS predictions for 80% of cases - Nebraska
    I765/I131 - 16.5 months
    I485 - 32.5 months(!!)

    Is anyone in the similar boat as me? When can I expect I765/I131? How accurate are the USCIS predictions?
    You mentioned you don't have a EB3 I-140. Was your downgrade via an amendment (as opposed to filing a new EB3 I-140) to existing EB2 I-140?

    Not sure how interfiling works for amendment cases as per my understanding, an approved amendment makes you show in EB3 and EB2 route is no longer available. I hope i am wrong though.

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    Are you seeing approvals in your friend circle/network? This forum saw a large number of approvals between July 21 - Oct 21. And then few in May22.
    USCIS repeatedly saying that they will try to use all EB this FY, but the numbers /sentiments doesn't match so far. May be Q4 will have bulk approval..but that is just hope.
    If they waste thousands this year, then it will be a great lost opportunity to reduce EB backlog for India born employees. Don't even want to think about last year's 67k wastage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebiswaiting View Post
    Are you seeing approvals in your friend circle/network? This forum saw a large number of approvals between July 21 - Oct 21. And then few in May22.
    USCIS repeatedly saying that they will try to use all EB this FY, but the numbers /sentiments doesn't match so far. May be Q4 will have bulk approval..but that is just hope.
    If they waste thousands this year, then it will be a great lost opportunity to reduce EB backlog for India born employees. Don't even want to think about last year's 67k wastage
    I am seeing approvals in 2014 PD telegram group. But so far only 3-4 approvals in the group of 1k+ members, so the rate is less than 1%.

    In the group, which is specific to approvals, I am seeing mostly 2012 and 2013 PD approvals.

    Yes, the hope is that the approvals will pick up starting in July.
    PD: 01/17/2014 || EB3I || 485/131/765 RD: 10/6/20 || BM: 2/18/21 || ER Submitted: 5/21/21 || ER Approved: 06/01/21 || EAD/AP Card Received: 6/12/21 || RFE (Medical) Received: 8/30/21 || RRFE: 9/9/21 || 485 Approval: Pending

  11. #5211
    Quote Originally Posted by PDDEC232014 View Post
    My PD 23 Dec 2014
    I will be filing for the first time in EB2 i485 AOS if the chart opens in July
    What are the chances for FAD to move to Jan 1 2015 with Aug bulletin
    Any remote chances for approval before Sep 30 2022
    I know this is very stupid, just wondering with so many steps like biometrics - is it a must to be completed before I485 approval or is it mainly for EAD
    The dates could very well open. But I am afraid the chance of approval is negligible.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  12. #5212
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    The dates could very well open. But I am afraid the chance of approval is negligible.
    Q, Are you saying this purely on the basis of processing times or PD?

    Because I just saw a case which was approved within a month, from RD to Card being produced status date.

    Also, approval for 2014 PD is still scarce, I heard yesterday about the 2014 Nov case getting approved. So it seems like these days everything is based on pure luck.
    PD: 01/17/2014 || EB3I || 485/131/765 RD: 10/6/20 || BM: 2/18/21 || ER Submitted: 5/21/21 || ER Approved: 06/01/21 || EAD/AP Card Received: 6/12/21 || RFE (Medical) Received: 8/30/21 || RRFE: 9/9/21 || 485 Approval: Pending

  13. #5213
    Quote Originally Posted by montyp80 View Post
    Q, Are you saying this purely on the basis of processing times or PD?

    Because I just saw a case which was approved within a month, from RD to Card being produced status date.

    Also, approval for 2014 PD is still scarce, I heard yesterday about the 2014 Nov case getting approved. So it seems like these days everything is based on pure luck.
    Specific to his PD Dec 2014 I think the chances of approval are low. But yes this is going to be quite random for candidates in 2012/13/14. 2011 should sail through.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  14. #5214
    I personally knows folks with late 2010 PD still waiting; even thou they filed their cases back in May/June 2021. (Job change, new perm resulted in 2021 filing instead of Oct 2020)

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieur View Post
    I personally knows folks with late 2010 PD still waiting; even thou they filed their cases back in May/June 2021. (Job change, new perm resulted in 2021 filing instead of Oct 2020)
    It really depends on the complexity and nuances of indvidual cases (like you say job changes, downgrades, upgrades, etc.) and of course luck to an extent (application at SRC, backlogged FO, etc). I would say at a minimum all the 2014 applcations that are documentarily complete and downgraded in 2020 and have by now interfiled, should get their gc's by September. Also USCIS has mentioned that any applications till the first week of June should be issued a gc by September -- which means most of the 2013 folks that should have sent in their applications in May and any of the 2014 folks thats sent in completed applications (with medicals) in June first week. It would be impressive (by their standards) if USCIS could schedule,complete biometrics and background/security checks and evaluate and issue the gc, all in 3 months.
    Last edited by gammaray; 06-28-2022 at 11:47 AM.

  16. #5216
    Quote Originally Posted by gammaray View Post
    It really depends on the complexity and nuances of indvidual cases (like you say job changes, downgrades, upgrades, etc.) and of course luck to an extent (application at SRC, backlogged FO, etc). I would say at a minimum all the 2014 applcations that are documentarily complete and downgraded in 2020 and have by now interfiled, should get their gc's by September. Also USCIS has mentioned that anyapplications till the first week of June should be issued a gc by September -- which means most of the 2013 folks that should have sent in their applciations in May and any of the 2014 folks thats sent in completed applications (with medicals) in June first week. It would be impressive (by their standards) if USCIS could schedule,complete biometrics and background/security checks and evaluate and issue the gc, all in 3 months.
    LOL to USCIS issuing GCs by September for July filings.
    Many people that filed last year Q4, Q3 are still waiting ...

  17. #5217
    Quote Originally Posted by EB22010Dec View Post
    LOL to USCIS issuing GCs by September for July filings.
    Many people that filed last year Q4, Q3 are still waiting ...
    First week June, not July. But again, it's not linear and depends of several individual factors -- so last year's applications could be waiting while recent ones get it. If USCIS is making the claim that all 290K visas will be utilitized they will have to process May/June filings (since Eb2 dates progressed 15 months in May/June and thats where the demand exists to fulfill the supply).

    I won't believe it till I see it either, but logically thats what should happen if there is zero/minimal visa wastage.
    Last edited by gammaray; 06-28-2022 at 11:56 AM.

  18. #5218
    Quote Originally Posted by gammaray View Post
    It really depends on the complexity and nuances of indvidual cases (like you say job changes, downgrades, upgrades, etc.) and of course luck to an extent (application at SRC, backlogged FO, etc).
    Only reason filed in June 2021 coz of job change. Straight EB3 with all paper work included. Its just dismal processing speed is the reason for no approval yet.

  19. #5219
    Hey Guys,

    We have an interesting situation and thought to pick your advice.

    My Brother-in-law got his I-485 approved on June 14th, and got his approval notice. But there is no update on Card being produced?. He has is EAD/AP with validity till June-2023. He has an urgrnt travel to visit India which is booked for July-11.

    We raised a couple of infopass requests, got a call from uscis and unfortunately they do not have any appointments to book in the next couple of weeks, so he can get I551 temporary GC stamped. Their interpretation is that he can still use his AP for travel but he has to show is I485 approval notices at the port of entry. The descretion will be on CBP officer to let him in.



    Im sure someone may have faced this situation in the recent past due to covid and indefinite wait times.

    We also called CBP and their response was vague but encouraging. From them and AP is valid but beneficiary may expect a change in status while they are out of the country. We have seen such cases where GC was approved and recieving a card while someone is still out of the country and POE either stamped or gave them temporary permit to enter the states and return back to CBP office with evidence. My BIL case falls in a rather different scenario that we are seeing recently due to administrative issues.

    Can someone throw some light? Is AP still valid in this case? What is the final status that really voids all other immigration statuses ? Is it I485 approval notice or Card produced status the final step that nullifies all other statuses?

    We have a call scheduled with Immigration lawyer too. Just thought to run it by this lovely group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prabhas View Post
    Hey Guys,

    We have an interesting situation and thought to pick your advice.

    My Brother-in-law got his I-485 approved on June 14th, and got his approval notice. But there is no update on Card being produced?. He has is EAD/AP with validity till June-2023. He has an urgrnt travel to visit India which is booked for July-11.

    We raised a couple of infopass requests, got a call from uscis and unfortunately they do not have any appointments to book in the next couple of weeks, so he can get I551 temporary GC stamped. Their interpretation is that he can still use his AP for travel but he has to show is I485 approval notices at the port of entry. The descretion will be on CBP officer to let him in.



    Im sure someone may have faced this situation in the recent past due to covid and indefinite wait times.

    We also called CBP and their response was vague but encouraging. From them and AP is valid but beneficiary may expect a change in status while they are out of the country. We have seen such cases where GC was approved and recieving a card while someone is still out of the country and POE either stamped or gave them temporary permit to enter the states and return back to CBP office with evidence. My BIL case falls in a rather different scenario that we are seeing recently due to administrative issues.

    Can someone throw some light? Is AP still valid in this case? What is the final status that really voids all other immigration statuses ? Is it I485 approval notice or Card produced status the final step that nullifies all other statuses?

    We have a call scheduled with Immigration lawyer too. Just thought to run it by this lovely group.
    I do not know the answer but please post your findings. This will be very helpful for others.

  21. #5221

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prabhas View Post
    Hey Guys,

    We have an interesting situation and thought to pick your advice.

    My Brother-in-law got his I-485 approved on June 14th, and got his approval notice. But there is no update on Card being produced?. He has is EAD/AP with validity till June-2023. He has an urgrnt travel to visit India which is booked for July-11.

    We raised a couple of infopass requests, got a call from uscis and unfortunately they do not have any appointments to book in the next couple of weeks, so he can get I551 temporary GC stamped. Their interpretation is that he can still use his AP for travel but he has to show is I485 approval notices at the port of entry. The descretion will be on CBP officer to let him in.



    Im sure someone may have faced this situation in the recent past due to covid and indefinite wait times.

    We also called CBP and their response was vague but encouraging. From them and AP is valid but beneficiary may expect a change in status while they are out of the country. We have seen such cases where GC was approved and recieving a card while someone is still out of the country and POE either stamped or gave them temporary permit to enter the states and return back to CBP office with evidence. My BIL case falls in a rather different scenario that we are seeing recently due to administrative issues.

    Can someone throw some light? Is AP still valid in this case? What is the final status that really voids all other immigration statuses ? Is it I485 approval notice or Card produced status the final step that nullifies all other statuses?

    We have a call scheduled with Immigration lawyer too. Just thought to run it by this lovely group.
    I believe we are talking about a sweet problem here. I don't see any problem. He can simply use the AP to enter. Only if the CBP officer is sadist he might have some trouble. I would not worry a thing.

    Once - before my own GC approval - the CBP officer looks into the system and says to me - oh you are almost there and just lets me get out of the airport without any further questions. So the key to avoid trouble is two fold - ensure you have done everything right way and then be respectful to the officer.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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    EB2-EB3 whirlwind

    Hi there,

    My original EB2 I-140 has a priority date of June 2012 filed at Texas. I downgraded to EB3 regular processing in November 2020 at Nebraska (the site selection was not up to me). Biometrics done in early 2021 and sent my medical info in Sep 2021 though there was no RFE for it, only an open letter from USCIS. My EB3 has not been approved yet. I interfiled for EB2 in March this year and received my receipt notice in May and the EAD shortly afterwards. However, my 485 file still seems to be at Nebraska. Based on info shared in other immigration forums, it seems that only cases with an approved downgraded I 140 are being transferred to NBC/FO and being approved thereafter.

    I would greatly appreciate any advice on whether I should apply for premium processing of EB3 downgrade now even though I have submitted an Interfile request for EB2 - that could be confusing for USCIS. Or is it better to litigate as it seems to get USCIS to act/approve quickly - based on claims made by certain lawyers on Twitter. Many thanks for any advice.

    - Totally lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prabhas View Post
    Hey Guys,

    We have an interesting situation and thought to pick your advice.

    My Brother-in-law got his I-485 approved on June 14th, and got his approval notice. But there is no update on Card being produced?. He has is EAD/AP with validity till June-2023. He has an urgrnt travel to visit India which is booked for July-11.

    We raised a couple of infopass requests, got a call from uscis and unfortunately they do not have any appointments to book in the next couple of weeks, so he can get I551 temporary GC stamped. Their interpretation is that he can still use his AP for travel but he has to show is I485 approval notices at the port of entry. The descretion will be on CBP officer to let him in.



    Im sure someone may have faced this situation in the recent past due to covid and indefinite wait times.

    We also called CBP and their response was vague but encouraging. From them and AP is valid but beneficiary may expect a change in status while they are out of the country. We have seen such cases where GC was approved and recieving a card while someone is still out of the country and POE either stamped or gave them temporary permit to enter the states and return back to CBP office with evidence. My BIL case falls in a rather different scenario that we are seeing recently due to administrative issues.

    Can someone throw some light? Is AP still valid in this case? What is the final status that really voids all other immigration statuses ? Is it I485 approval notice or Card produced status the final step that nullifies all other statuses?

    We have a call scheduled with Immigration lawyer too. Just thought to run it by this lovely group.
    Maybe you or someone can pickup the GC and post it to India just in case. But most likely (99.9% of the time) the officers will allow him in on AP. He has a valid explanation of why he is not travelling with his GC.

  24. #5224
    Tcs guy- I will surely post the experience.

    Q, vsivarama - how are you all doing? Good to see a response from you as always and it has been a long time. Believe me my BIL will have all his senses together during his POE ..😁..

    We will surely post it or even take the next flight and hand over the cards if he gets it in the meantime. We are just making sure we have our basis covered in all possible scenarios. He came to the USA in 2005 and wanted move back to india initially , delayed his process and now stuck in this sweet- sour spot 😊..

    I will share this info with him and also close the loop with his experience once he is back.

    Happy July 4th all!! ❤️
    Last edited by Prabhas; 07-03-2022 at 07:53 PM.

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    PD: Aug 2012 (EB2)
    Processing Center : Nebraska for all filings
    Downgrade to EB3: Oct 22 2020
    Biometrics: Feb 2021
    EAD/AP: received with 1 year validity in Feb 2021
    EB3 i140- Approved July 2021
    I proactively sent Medicals in Aug-2021. I know I took a chance and this maybe lost into a blackhole .
    EAD/AP renewals filed in Nov 2021. I have received my EAD renewal card in Feb and waiting for AP. My spouse has not received either).
    My employer was acquired by another firm in Apr 2021 and now I work for a employer but in the similar line of work.

    In Feb 2022 when I requested to file Transfer of Underlying Basis (interfile) to EB2, employer's attorney threw a wrench in the process.

    As my old employer was acquired and the old company no longer exists and also there was a significant change to my job title (to Sr Manager) attorney recommended filing a job portability first to inform USCIS of the acquisition and to also notify then of my new title and the job responsibilities. It took 2 months for the job portability filing and I recently received a Job Portability 485J Receipt #. Finally, Transfer of underlying basis (interfile) was sent to USCIS CA location this week.

    It has been a frustrating process chasing EAD/AP approvals and then the job portability and TUB filing with my employer and the attorneys.

    All my cases (I485, 765, 131, 485J job portability) are stuck in Nebraska. I have heard that lately cases are being transferred from other centers to NBC and few weeks after the transfer the cases are approved.

    Question: Other than sit tight and wait for things to naturally progress is there something I can do to nudge my case along? Couple weeks ago I spoke to USCIS and they informed that my 485 is at NSC and as it was filed in Oct 2020, it will Not be considered outside of normal processing until Aug/Sep, by then it will probably be too late as it will be end of year and 1000s of GCs will evaporate into thin air?
    ********
    Continuation / Update to my previous post.

    Transfer of underlying basis from EB3 to EB3 (TUB case) was filed with NBC(MSC22xxxxxxxxx).

    Few weeks after TUB receipt notice was received, requested a Tier 2 agent call backup which finally came late last week. Tier 2 agent took our 485, 485J receipt #s and opened a WKDxxxxxxNSC ticket to transfer our underlying basis to EB2. He inquired about 693(medicals) which we sent voluntarily last summer (w/o RFE) which he could not locate in his system. Agent informed us that we can expect a response in 14 days, he did not clarify what we can expect.

    Considering, medicals are not attached to our file and there are ~10 weeks left this fiscal year, what are the odds of us getting greened?

    Has anyone gone through the WKD ticket process for transfer of underlying basis? What to expect out of the this? Trying to taper down and keep our expectations grounded.
    Last edited by GCMirage; 07-06-2022 at 08:46 AM. Reason: link to previous post was missing.. updated to add context

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