I485 Information, details and scenario playout

[longwaitgigu]

Bangalore boy
Can u please provide ND and series
Like mine
ND- February 8
Series is MSC219076****
Thankyou

[bangaloreboy]

Hi, Its...
ND: 1/19/2021
MSC219067****

[bangaloreboy]

Hi, Its...
ND: 1/19/2021
MSC219067****

Update:
My I-765 and I-131 now show status as "Case was approved". Previous status was "New Card is Being Produced" which seems backwards, but I am not complaining!

[bangaloreboy]

Update:
My I-765 and I-131 now show status as "Case was approved". Previous status was "New Card is Being Produced" which seems backwards, but I am not complaining!

Also, chat with Emma revealed that my I-485 is still with NBC. I just hope they transfer to FO soon.

[bangaloreboy]

Also, chat with Emma revealed that my I-485 is still with NBC. I just hope they transfer to FO soon.

Meanwhile, did anybody have any hitches with USCIS correspondences/physical cards being sent to you when it coincided with your move?
We moved a week ago, USPS address change and AR-11 updates were done at the same time.
Emma mentioned that AR-11 could take 30 days to get updated. I am hoping USPS should reroute any communication to new address. Just a tiny bit nervous since it pertains to USCIS documents.

[andhraguy]

Meanwhile, did anybody have any hitches with USCIS correspondences/physical cards being sent to you when it coincided with your move?
We moved a week ago, USPS address change and AR-11 updates were done at the same time.
Emma mentioned that AR-11 could take 30 days to get updated. I am hoping USPS should reroute any communication to new address. Just a tiny bit nervous since it pertains to USCIS documents.

If you have registered for USPS mail forwarding service that should be good enough. Nothing to worry.

[bangaloreboy]

If you have registered for USPS mail forwarding service that should be good enough. Nothing to worry.

Well, my worries came true...My EAD card was sent to my old address and was then returned to sender.
Details:
I moved and put in AR-11 / USPS change of address on Jul 14th. EAD card was mailed to me on Jul 27th, destined to my previous address. It never got forwarded to new address and instead was sent back to USCIS.
Why did USCIS send the card to previous address: as per USCIS, it takes upto 30 days for AR-11 change of address to take effect
Why did USPS not forward the card to my new address: as per USCIS "All documents are sent via priority mail, this type of mail is not subject to forwarding requests". I doubt this statement, since I am not aware of any exceptions to USPS mail forwarding, except advertising mail (who wants those??). Strangely, EAD/AP approval notices got promptly forwarded to my new address.
I did raise an investigation with an USPS manager, but you very well know thats merely procedural.
To all the folks who are moving and expecting GC/EAD card delivery, keep in mind this window where the mail can fall through the cracks.

[qesehmk]

Well, my worries came true...My EAD card was sent to my old address and was then returned to sender.
Details:
I moved and put in AR-11 / USPS change of address on Jul 14th. EAD card was mailed to me on Jul 27th, destined to my previous address. It never got forwarded to new address and instead was sent back to USCIS.
Why did USCIS send the card to previous address: as per USCIS, it takes upto 30 days for AR-11 change of address to take effect
Why did USPS not forward the card to my new address: as per USCIS "All documents are sent via priority mail, this type of mail is not subject to forwarding requests". I doubt this statement, since I am not aware of any exceptions to USPS mail forwarding, except advertising mail (who wants those??). Strangely, EAD/AP approval notices got promptly forwarded to my new address.
I did raise an investigation with an USPS manager, but you very well know thats merely procedural.
To all the folks who are moving and expecting GC/EAD card delivery, keep in mind this window where the mail can fall through the cracks.

Not a big deal and no there is no conspiracy here. USPS does not forward sensitive stuff. That is true. They will resend it to your new address.

[gammaray]

Well, my worries came true...My EAD card was sent to my old address and was then returned to sender.
Details:
I moved and put in AR-11 / USPS change of address on Jul 14th. EAD card was mailed to me on Jul 27th, destined to my previous address. It never got forwarded to new address and instead was sent back to USCIS.
Why did USCIS send the card to previous address: as per USCIS, it takes upto 30 days for AR-11 change of address to take effect
Why did USPS not forward the card to my new address: as per USCIS "All documents are sent via priority mail, this type of mail is not subject to forwarding requests". I doubt this statement, since I am not aware of any exceptions to USPS mail forwarding, except advertising mail (who wants those??). Strangely, EAD/AP approval notices got promptly forwarded to my new address.
I did raise an investigation with an USPS manager, but you very well know thats merely procedural.
To all the folks who are moving and expecting GC/EAD card delivery, keep in mind this window where the mail can fall through the cracks.

Irrespective of whether priority mail is forwarded or not, USPS site says 7 to 10 business days for the change of address to kick in : https://uspstracking.space/how-long-...ge-of-address/

It is common for mail to go to the old address at the start (and sometimes even after) till the system updates to the new address.

Timing of your move was unfortunate.

[mmax123]

Hello Experts,

I would very much appreciate your opinion on my situation. I was employed with Employer A and have a EB2-I PD of March 2013. I move jobs in early 2020. My new Employer B applied for EB2 PERM in early FEB 2021. Based on the DOL processing times, if there is no random audit, I am expecting the PERM to get approved in the next month or so.

I am wondering what is the best strategy for me (EB2 vs EB3). Based on latest "Chat with Charlie" and expected visa wastage, I feel that there is a good possibility that EB2-I FAD may not get current before September 2022, even if DOF becomes current in October 2021. I feel EB3 might be the best bet.

I am thinking of the below options:
1. File EB2 I140 in premium. After approval, file EB3 I140 in premium. Wait for approval before taking next action.
2. File both EB2 I140 and EB3 I140 in premium simultaneously. Wait for approval before taking next action.
3. Go ahead with full EB3 application (I140 + 485 + PD/AP/medical/etc). Upgrade to premium as soon as possible.

What would be your recommendation? Follow one of the above options, or something else? Money is no concern and I expect my employer to support me with the best possible option.

Also, a couple of questions:
Q1. Since this is a new PERM, "original PERM" will be available. Is it possible to directly file EB3 I140 in premium? If it is not possible, and we file in regular & then upgrade to premium, is it usually approved for premium?
Q2. Can I actually file both EB2 I140 and EB3 I140 in premium simultaneously?

Thanks!
MMax

Hello folks,

A quick update on my status, in case it helps anyone. Referencing my original message above.

My PERM approval came in on 8/9. My PD is March 2013 and I have been current in EB3 since August. Had a consultation with the attorney on 8/10. He recommended concurrent filing EB3 I140 PP + I485. I understand that it may not be optimal based on the forum guidance here (which was get EB3 I140 approved in PP first, then apply for I485 -- which will make I485 to go to NBC). The attorney mentioned that it would be the safest option to file concurrently. He gave me a choice. I decided to go ahead with his recommendation of concurrent filing.

Then ensued a mad rush to get all paperwork done. Attorney filed EB3 I140+I485+EAD+AP+Medicals on 8/18. I was pleasantly surprised that the law firm acted so fast. In my previous job, we had FMan as the legal firm, which would have easily taken a month or two for this paperwork.

I140 went to NSC. Received date 8/20. Approved on 9/1.

Got I797C for I485 from NSC for both my spouse & I. Received date is 8/20. Notice date is 8/24.

Now we wait for biometrics.

[tomhagen]

Not a big deal and no there is no conspiracy here. USPS does not forward sensitive stuff. That is true. They will resend it to your new address.

Learnt this hard way. USCIS send these cards in Return Service Requested. This is how it works. Your card will travel all the way to your local post office (one guy in post office gave me wrong information which caused one week of sleepless nights for me. He told in the regional distribution center immediately before your local post office they will scan the barcode and based on recipient address, if it finds mail forwarding is there on your file then it will send it back to sender with your new address information. That is not true. It will make it all the way to your local post office).

Now what many people doesn't know is USPS offers a great service called intercept package. Go to USPS home page click on receive and under that you have intercept package. When you give your tracking number it will tell you if your package is eligible for intercept. NOTE your package must NOT be in transit and it must be at one of its hopping point (postal hub) to initiate the intercept. If your package is eligible for intercept USPS will change $15.19 to intercept your package then it will give options to you. One of the option is hold at local post office then you can go and pick up.

Some times this is not possible and intercept doesn't work at all. That is where human relations come in to picture. I suggest people always maintain good relation with your mail man (not only mail man for that matter of fact any body). Treat him well and give token of appreciation in holiday period, after all he is delivering everything to you through out the year. Once it reaches local post office and if you know your mail man well and if you informed him that you are expecting this card and it so important that your life is dependent on this, he will pull out the package so that it will not be scanned in the post office and you can collect at Post Office or from him at your old mail box.

I moved when my GC is approved. As usual USCIS didn't even pick up my address change request. Strange thing is I applied for the address change for me and my wife. They processed her request but not mine and sent the GC to old address. I couldn't intercept it any where. Finally it reached the local PO and my mail man like an angel pulled the package out and called me. I went and picked it up from him. Of course I gave a pricy wine bottle. Happiness and gratitude on his face is priceless. He knows he is not going to see me any more because I already moved from that old address and I don't need to do this but in my view it is worth it for what he went way above and beyond his duty. Just imagine if he sends it back to USCIS. Now I am at USCIS mercy to update my address and then request them to send the card again to new address. GOD knows how much time it will take for address change, resending the card and having that freedom tag in my hand.

All the BEST

[monsieur]

Hello folks,

My PERM approval came in on 8/9. My PD is March 2013 and I have been current in EB3 since August. Had a consultation with the attorney on 8/10. He recommended concurrent filing EB3 I140 PP + I485. I understand that it may not be optimal based on the forum guidance here (which was get EB3 I140 approved in PP first, then apply for I485 -- which will make I485 to go to NBC). The attorney mentioned that it would be the safest option to file concurrently. He gave me a choice. I decided to go ahead with his recommendation of concurrent filing.

You did the absolutely right thing in going with Concurrent filing. Atleast this has started 180 day clock and once its over you will be done with Perm and I-140 cycles. As next yr is expected to have another good rd of spillover, in grand scheme of things concurrent will not delay much. I hope you filed your medical as well with your paperwork.

FMan gets bashing which I gets it. But in my case they were able to file my case within 20 days. I feel they are in their own world and if we ask questions based on their terminology then we make quick progress; just like when you talk to IT guy and know your way around a bit. We know our situation better than anyone, so onus is on us to be knowledgeable abt Immi process. If we have attitude of "I am Doc/Accountant/Science guy and you handle my immi, i will just sign paperwork" than being from EB-I buddy you are in for long journey.


Abundance of good info which is present in pages of this forum and just pe prepared in terms of collecting paperwork way and I bet it will be quick filing.

[mmax123]

Thanks monsieur. That was one of the reasons. The 180 clock has started and we hopefully don't have to deal with PERM/I140 ever again.

We submitted medicals as well. It was quiet a challenge to get that done in a week -- get appointments, tests, vaccinations for my spouse since she didn't have proof, chest xray for my spouse since the TB blood test came positive (no - she doesn't have TB). We somehow managed to get all that done in 4 business days.

Noted on FMan. However, I think they have different levels of service and I suspect my previous employer didn't pay for the best service, so everything was always delayed when I have worked with them. It also helps that my current attorney was not overloaded with GC filing right now (unlike Oct 2020 filings).

[bangaloreboy]

Learnt this hard way. USCIS send these cards in Return Service Requested. This is how it works. Your card will travel all the way to your local post office (one guy in post office gave me wrong information which caused one week of sleepless nights for me. He told in the regional distribution center immediately before your local post office they will scan the barcode and based on recipient address, if it finds mail forwarding is there on your file then it will send it back to sender with your new address information. That is not true. It will make it all the way to your local post office).

Now what many people doesn't know is USPS offers a great service called intercept package. Go to USPS home page click on receive and under that you have intercept package. When you give your tracking number it will tell you if your package is eligible for intercept. NOTE your package must NOT be in transit and it must be at one of its hopping point (postal hub) to initiate the intercept. If your package is eligible for intercept USPS will change $15.19 to intercept your package then it will give options to you. One of the option is hold at local post office then you can go and pick up.

Some times this is not possible and intercept doesn't work at all. That is where human relations come in to picture. I suggest people always maintain good relation with your mail man (not only mail man for that matter of fact any body). Treat him well and give token of appreciation in holiday period, after all he is delivering everything to you through out the year. Once it reaches local post office and if you know your mail man well and if you informed him that you are expecting this card and it so important that your life is dependent on this, he will pull out the package so that it will not be scanned in the post office and you can collect at Post Office or from him at your old mail box.

I moved when my GC is approved. As usual USCIS didn't even pick up my address change request. Strange thing is I applied for the address change for me and my wife. They processed her request but not mine and sent the GC to old address. I couldn't intercept it any where. Finally it reached the local PO and my mail man like an angel pulled the package out and called me. I went and picked it up from him. Of course I gave a pricy wine bottle. Happiness and gratitude on his face is priceless. He knows he is not going to see me any more because I already moved from that old address and I don't need to do this but in my view it is worth it for what he went way above and beyond his duty. Just imagine if he sends it back to USCIS. Now I am at USCIS mercy to update my address and then request them to send the card again to new address. GOD knows how much time it will take for address change, resending the card and having that freedom tag in my hand.

All the BEST

Glad to hear your mailman called you so that you could pick it up yourself...In my case, my EAD card was returned to the sender, and I finally received it 3 weeks later. All's well that ends well.

[mmax123]

EDIT: Moved this post to Application Status since I think that is more appropriate.

[ImmiGiveMe]

My Application was sent to Dallas Lock Box @ (PO BOX 660867 Dallas, TX).. It is a straight filing.. So will it go to SRC or LIN or National Benefit Center (MSC)?