EB2-3 Predictions (Rather Calculations)

[Zenzone]

Folks who got greened recently - I got my medical RFE two weeks ago and I have completed the medicals now with I-693 ready to be filed and the response for RFE ready to go. My EB2 date (Jan-2011) is current in July, would you advise to hold off and send the RFE response packet next week so that it reaches USCIS as of July 1st or is there no harm in sending it right away/right now? I want to take the approach that would give me a best shot at quicker adjudication. Please advise!

Update -

EB2-I PD - Jan-2011; Receipt date - 10/21/20; Notice Date - 11/12/20; Biometrics - 1/6/21; EAD/AP Approval - 1/13/21; I-485 Supp-J Approval - 6/10/21; Medical RFE - 6/10/21; RFE Response Sent - 6/28/21; I-485 - Pending (Awaiting decision); Card Production Ordered - Pending (Awaiting decision); Processing at the Local Field Office (previously with NBC)

[rave79]

Update -

EB2-I PD - Jan-2011; Receipt date - 10/21/20; Notice Date - 11/12/20; Biometrics - 1/6/21; EAD/AP Approval - 1/13/21; I-485 Supp-J Approval - 6/10/21; Medical RFE - 6/10/21; RFE Response Sent - 6/28/21; I-485 Approved - XX; Card Production Ordered - XX; Processed at the Local Field Office (previously with NBC)

Congrats..!!

[srimurthy]

Update -

EB2-I PD - Jan-2011; Receipt date - 10/21/20; Notice Date - 11/12/20; Biometrics - 1/6/21; EAD/AP Approval - 1/13/21; I-485 Supp-J Approval - 6/10/21; Medical RFE - 6/10/21; RFE Response Sent - 6/28/21; I-485 Approved - Waiting; Card Production Ordered - Waiting; Processed at the Local Field Office (previously with NBC)

Did you not submit the medicals in Oct with the initial submission? Was wondering what was the medical RFE for?

[Mgajsk]

Update -

EB2-I PD - Jan-2011; Receipt date - 10/21/20; Notice Date - 11/12/20; Biometrics - 1/6/21; EAD/AP Approval - 1/13/21; I-485 Supp-J Approval - 6/10/21; Medical RFE - 6/10/21; RFE Response Sent - 6/28/21; I-485 Approved - Waiting; Card Production Ordered - Waiting; Processed at the Local Field Office (previously with NBC)

Congrats Zenzone !!
I must say that was pretty good timeline considering the ?delay? news everywhere .
Can you mention how did you know your case was sent to field office ?
And
Which field office was this ? My case is with NBC with MSC number and I am expecting it to move to local office ?

[sstest]

Update -

EB2-I PD - Jan-2011; Receipt date - 10/21/20; Notice Date - 11/12/20; Biometrics - 1/6/21; EAD/AP Approval - 1/13/21; I-485 Supp-J Approval - 6/10/21; Medical RFE - 6/10/21; RFE Response Sent - 6/28/21; I-485 Approved - Waiting; Card Production Ordered - Waiting; Processed at the Local Field Office (previously with NBC)

Excellent news! Power of straight filing, at least this FY. Congrats!

Thats very discouraging . For how long one should wait - atleast if they can give the reason for rejection will be a win at this point .
Are you planning to apply under EB2 if your FAD under EB2 gets current and this EB3--140 is still pending by then ?

Well, I did not even get rejection getting the silent treatment for all PP requests. Given that EB3 I-140 was filed as an amendment(The lawyer said no to filing as a new petition), and I-485 for that EB3 I-140 is out with it, I guess I just have to wait and see what happens in the next month or so.

[Zenzone]

Did you not submit the medicals in Oct with the initial submission? Was wondering what was the medical RFE for?

I didn't submit Medicals in October and hence the RFE now.

[android09]

I didn't submit Medicals in October and hence the RFE now.

Congrats @Zenzone !!! Very happy for you. but isn?t 2011 becoming current from July 1st only? Its only 2 days to July but wanted to confirm getting green card before priority date is current is not causing problems.

[Noesis]

Update -

EB2-I PD - Jan-2011; Receipt date - 10/21/20; Notice Date - 11/12/20; Biometrics - 1/6/21; EAD/AP Approval - 1/13/21; I-485 Supp-J Approval - 6/10/21; Medical RFE - 6/10/21; RFE Response Sent - 6/28/21; I-485 Approved - Waiting; Card Production Ordered - Waiting; Processed at the Local Field Office (previously with NBC)

Congratulations.!

[Zenzone]

Congrats @Zenzone !!! Very happy for you. but isn?t 2011 becoming current from July 1st only? Its only 2 days to July but wanted to confirm getting green card before priority date is current is not causing problems.

I didn't get my GC yet. Just sent my RFE response yesterday and waiting now. I was scratching my head on why everyone is congratulating already

[bangaloreboy]

I didn't get my GC yet. Just sent my RFE response yesterday and waiting now. I was scratching my head on why everyone is congratulating already

Hello Zenzone,
I will not make you scratch your head more, but I believe appreciation is warranted just for the fact that you did not wait till the end of Oct to file 485...Great to see your case move along nicely...wish you the best!

[Zenzone]

Hello Zenzone,
I will not make you scratch your head more, but I believe appreciation is warranted just for the fact that you did not wait till the end of Oct to file 485...Great to see your case move along nicely...wish you the best!

Yes. Thanks and to you too!

[Noesis]

I didn't get my GC yet. Just sent my RFE response yesterday and waiting now. I was scratching my head on why everyone is congratulating already

well, the "nonimmigrant" mind which aspires to be an "Immigrant" mind doesn't see anything beyond "card production ordered" in your message Nevertheless, congratulations on the progression of your case, to be greened soon..

[Jonty Rhodes]

Need some input from experts here.

MY PD is 5/20/2011. I downgraded in October 2020 since I missed out by 6 days as filing dates stopped on 5/15/2011.

Biometrics are done. EAD/AP awaited. I did not submit medicals in October 2020 like many others at the advice of my attorney.

I am current in EB3 right now with EB3 I-140 approved. I will be current in EB2 also starting July 1.

I was planning to submit medicals without RFE earlier but since I am now getting current in EB2 also, should I

1. Request interfiling in EB2 and send medicals with the interfiling request?

2. Just submit medicals without RFE without interfiling?

3. Just sit tight and wait for medical RFE and then submit medicals?

My attorney is advising Option 3 as the safest approach and asking to be patient. His opinion is that it is usually not a good idea to send medical exams to the USCIS until they ask for them since the agency is terrible at processing documents in the mailroom, and there is a high probability that the medical exams will get lost and never make it into the proper files. He says that USCIS's position is that people should not send anything to the USCIS unless the USCIS requests it. He says that wheels at the USCIS turn slowly, and if we change course, it will not help to speed things up, but it may further gum up the works.

Would appreciate recommendations from experts here.

[sjayanthi]

Congratulations to all who recently got current. Looks like the next few VBs will be tough ones with little movement. This opens up a crazy situation, we have folks in 2012 getting cards while folks from 2010 are waiting perhaps based on the processing center. Given this, how would USCIS ever determine where to hold the line or worse retrogress. If they pull the date back, say to Apr 2011, would folks who are currently in the July bulletin would just get EAD and stay put?

Still crazy is what would happen if a 2012 EB3 PD person filed in Oct, 2020 while a 2011 EB3 PD file in May 2021, will the first case get through (which I think is the case bc of RD) while the second case will be pending and wrose get retrogressed.

Anyways getting back to my actual question, should we consider 2010 and 2011 PDs safe? or are there chances for folks in 2012? I still remember crazy talk from Mr.Reddy that dates will move to 2018 and here we are talking about 2012

[bikenlalan]

Congratulations to all who recently got current. Looks like the next few VBs will be tough ones with little movement. This opens up a crazy situation, we have folks in 2012 getting cards while folks from 2010 are waiting perhaps based on the processing center. Given this, how would USCIS ever determine where to hold the line or worse retrogress. If they pull the date back, say to Apr 2011, would folks who are currently in the July bulletin would just get EAD and stay put?

Still crazy is what would happen if a 2012 EB3 PD person filed in Oct, 2020 while a 2011 EB3 PD file in May 2021, will the first case get through (which I think is the case bc of RD) while the second case will be pending and wrose get retrogressed.

Anyways getting back to my actual question, should we consider 2010 and 2011 PDs safe? or are there chances for folks in 2012? I still remember crazy talk from Mr.Reddy that dates will move to 2018 and here we are talking about 2012

For now they are safe as there will not be retrogression since more spillover is expected from FB for next FY. Maybe there will be corrective action on the FA dates in the later half of next FY depending on how many of early priority dates are still pending. I would not expect aggressive movement going forward since a lot of applications are already in the pipeline. Hopefully by the end of next FY most of 2010 and early 2011 would be cleared.

[Zenzone]

For now they are safe as there will not be retrogression since more spillover is expected from FB for next FY. Maybe there will be corrective action on the FA dates in the later half of next FY depending on how many of early priority dates are still pending. I would not expect aggressive movement going forward since a lot of applications are already in the pipeline. Hopefully by the end of next FY most of 2010 and early 2011 would be cleared.

Agree that. Also, there is no reason to believe (based on expected FB to EB SO for next fiscal too) that there will be any retrogression until September 2022 based on where things stand today.

[Mgajsk]

I didn't get my GC yet. Just sent my RFE response yesterday and waiting now. I was scratching my head on why everyone is congratulating already

Quote Originally Posted by Zenzone View Post
Update -

EB2-I PD - Jan-2011; Receipt date - 10/21/20; Notice Date - 11/12/20; Biometrics - 1/6/21; EAD/AP Approval - 1/13/21; I-485 Supp-J Approval - 6/10/21; Medical RFE - 6/10/21; RFE Response Sent - 6/28/21; I-485 Approved - Waiting; Card Production Ordered - Waiting; Processed at the Local Field Office (previously with NBC)

your update had "i-485 Approved-pending" and I thought your I-485 is approved. I was happy cuz my PD is march 2011 :-)

How can we know if our case is transferred to Local Field office? Why did you send the medicals to local field office? can you please elaborate. My case is at NBC ..

[sjayanthi]

Agree that. Also, there is no reason to believe (based on expected FB to EB SO for next fiscal too) that there will be any retrogression until September 2022 based on where things stand today.

I was hoping that but given they are wasting most of the FO spillover not sure why it would be different next year. Not sure if my numbers are accurate but I read that most of the spillover for '21 is being wasted so I am a bit skeptical that entire next year spillover will be used. So net net we will get 150k additional GCs. That should eat way most of 2010 and 2011 backlog IMO.

[gammaray]

I didn't get my GC yet. Just sent my RFE response yesterday and waiting now. I was scratching my head on why everyone is congratulating already

Because I'm guessing people are eager and reading " Card Production Ordered" instead of "Card Production Ordered - Pending" and "I-485 - Pending"?

Guessing technically you would still require an interview prior to I-485 approval since the I-485 was applied in 2020. Hopefully that gets waived off.

[bikenlalan]

I was hoping that but given they are wasting most of the FO spillover not sure why it would be different next year. Not sure if my numbers are accurate but I read that most of the spillover for '21 is being wasted so I am a bit skeptical that entire next year spillover will be used. So net net we will get 150k additional GCs. That should eat way most of 2010 and 2011 backlog IMO.

By middle of next FY, USCIS should be able to process through most of the finger printing, background checks, sending out RFE's regularly as they pick up the files and moving through them to approval. Things should go better from Covid perspective, as things pretty much open up completely and normalcy returns. There will be wastage for sure even for next FY, as USCIS can only process as many applications per FY, their regular EB quota + some more. Do not expect them to use up all of 290K visa numbers that are said to be available. I would expect another 100-125k wastage even for next FY. But most of up to April/May 2011 PDs should be assumed to clear.

[qesehmk]

Jonty - not really an expert on this topic. But if I were you I would go with the lawyers advice in this case.

IMHO your card is just around the corner. Good luck.

Need some input from experts here.

MY PD is 5/20/2011. I downgraded in October 2020 since I missed out by 6 days as filing dates stopped on 5/15/2011.

Biometrics are done. EAD/AP awaited. I did not submit medicals in October 2020 like many others at the advice of my attorney.

I am current in EB3 right now with EB3 I-140 approved. I will be current in EB2 also starting July 1.

I was planning to submit medicals without RFE earlier but since I am now getting current in EB2 also, should I

1. Request interfiling in EB2 and send medicals with the interfiling request?

2. Just submit medicals without RFE without interfiling?

3. Just sit tight and wait for medical RFE and then submit medicals?

My attorney is advising Option 3 as the safest approach and asking to be patient. His opinion is that it is usually not a good idea to send medical exams to the USCIS until they ask for them since the agency is terrible at processing documents in the mailroom, and there is a high probability that the medical exams will get lost and never make it into the proper files. He says that USCIS's position is that people should not send anything to the USCIS unless the USCIS requests it. He says that wheels at the USCIS turn slowly, and if we change course, it will not help to speed things up, but it may further gum up the works.

Would appreciate recommendations from experts here.

[Zenzone]

Quote Originally Posted by Zenzone View Post
Update -

EB2-I PD - Jan-2011; Receipt date - 10/21/20; Notice Date - 11/12/20; Biometrics - 1/6/21; EAD/AP Approval - 1/13/21; I-485 Supp-J Approval - 6/10/21; Medical RFE - 6/10/21; RFE Response Sent - 6/28/21; I-485 Approved - Waiting; Card Production Ordered - Waiting; Processed at the Local Field Office (previously with NBC)

your update had "i-485 Approved-pending" and I thought your I-485 is approved. I was happy cuz my PD is march 2011 :-)

How can we know if our case is transferred to Local Field office? Why did you send the medicals to local field office? can you please elaborate. My case is at NBC ..

My medical RFE came from the FO. It had instructions to send the package back to them too. I also called and checked with Emma as soon as I received the RFE and saw it came from the FO.

[LightAtEndOfTunnel]

I didn't get my GC yet. Just sent my RFE response yesterday and waiting now. I was scratching my head on why everyone is congratulating already

People read "Card Production Ordered" and then stop reading further.. ha ha..

[newyorker123]

Agree that. Also, there is no reason to believe (based on expected FB to EB SO for next fiscal too) that there will be any retrogression until September 2022 based on where things stand today.

I keep seeing this - that there will be no retrogression: Is this about the Final Action Date ? So, is it almost certain that EB3 Final Action Date will remain in 2013 ?

My priority date is Feb 2012, wondering whether EB2 Final Action Date will ever reach here. Any thoughts ?

[LightAtEndOfTunnel]

I keep seeing this - that there will be no retrogression: Is this about the Final Action Date ? So, is it almost certain that EB3 Final Action Date will remain in 2013 ?

My priority date is Feb 2012, wondering whether EB2 Final Action Date will ever reach here. Any thoughts ?

It's not so much about priority date reaching there but it's more about USCIS' ability get through all the cases in time (I am talking about FY-2022, I have already given up hopes for FY-2021). There are tens of thousands of folks who are current since April/May,2020 but haven't seen much progress on their file.