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  1. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by AceMan View Post
    Yes, I concur to that. Ideally people with PD beyond 2012-13 should lead this drive.
    Next year, they will say ideally people with PD beyond 2013-14 should lead this drive, then year after that, they will say people in 2014-15 should lead this drive. IMHO, people in India should lead this drive so that one day they will get to come to US. Generally, it is more amusing to find faults in the ways of those few who tried their hands at advocacy than to do something ourselves.

  2. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by vedu View Post
    Next year, they will say ideally people with PD beyond 2013-14 should lead this drive, then year after that, they will say people in 2014-15 should lead this drive. IMHO, people in India should lead this drive so that one day they will get to come to US. Generally, it is more amusing to find faults in the ways of those few who tried their hands at advocacy than to do something ourselves.
    The point is to learn from past mishaps of other organizations who started with noble agenda. It is 15 years already and IV is still lead by AK and a feeder to his political ambitions with their pet word advocacy.

    Did the advocacy achieve any more than photo ops?

    You do not need the same leadership for more than 3 years for these activities.

  3. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by AceMan View Post
    The point is to learn from past mishaps of other organizations who started with noble agenda. It is 15 years already and IV is still lead by AK and a feeder to his political ambitions with their pet word advocacy.

    Did the advocacy achieve any more than photo ops?

    You do not need the same leadership for more than 3 years for these activities.
    I have nothing to do with IV. In fact, last year somebody called me from IV and asked me to call my local senator with a very specific message drafted by their team. I said OK and never called. I just like to sit on the sidelines and amuse myself both ways: watching IV's activities and also watching people who are criticizing those activities. And as for doing something meaningful for the general good of the community, ideally people with PDs in 2012-13 should lead these efforts, and I will support them in any way I can when this happens.

    The point here is we all agree on one thing...People in 2012-13 should do something. Next year, we will all agree with 2012-13 people joining us, that people in 2013-14 should do something. We all agree that we will support these activities!!!
    Last edited by vedu; 11-25-2020 at 12:35 PM.

  4. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by vedu View Post
    I have nothing to do with IV. In fact, last year somebody called me from IV and asked me to call my local senator with a very specific message drafted by their team. I said OK and never called. I just like to sit on the sidelines and amuse myself both ways: watching IV's activities and also watching people who are criticizing those activities. And as for doing something meaningful for the general good of the community, ideally people with PDs in 2012-13 should lead these efforts, and I will support them in any way I can when this happens.

    The point here is we all agree on one thing...People in 2012-13 should do something. Next year, we will all agree with 2012-13 people joining us, that people in 2013-14 should do something. We all agree that we will support these activities!!!

    I used IV only as an example of how quickly an organization can divert from its original intentions when the leadership stays stagnant forever. Same thing like the Congress party in India. It is pity to see that even in 2020, loss after loss, the party still absolves the leadership from any responsibility. In US accountability is a big thing, and they are ruthless in vanquishing the losers. Clinton’s lost the party after 2016. Trump trying his last gasping for any chance in 2024 for his kids or himself.

    We might be saying the same thing. As an early 2011 filer, I may not have much beef in the game other than a ‘Margadharshi’. However the lack of response so far with this here is astonishing.

  5. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by AceMan View Post
    I used IV only as an example of how quickly an organization can divert from its original intentions when the leadership stays stagnant forever. Same thing like the Congress party in India. It is pity to see that even in 2020, loss after loss, the party still absolves the leadership from any responsibility. In US accountability is a big thing, and they are ruthless in vanquishing the losers. Clinton’s lost the party after 2016. Trump trying his last gasping for any chance in 2024 for his kids or himself.

    We might be saying the same thing. As an early 2011 filer, I may not have much beef in the game other than a ‘Margadharshi’. However the lack of response so far with this here is astonishing.
    Hi AceMan,
    It will take time for this to pick steam. Currently almost everyone , even those with PDs in 2018 believe that there will soon be a path for them to get Greened. If we need them to understand the reality , we will need to put the numbers in front so that they understand that the chances of getting a GC are very minimal in the next 15-20 years if your PD is after 2014. Bill after Bill has failed the senate.
    A simple stats is that there are an avg of 50K people applying for perm in EB2 and EB3 India every year. Removing duplicates and abandoned petitions this will translate to atleast a conservative 70K GCs a year when you add dependents . EB2+EB3 is just 5600 GCs a year for India . Even if you get a spillover of 10K a year (optimistically speaking, realistically 2-3K) that is 15K . Do that Math and you quickly realize that you will run out of time before your kids turn 21 .
    Those with PDs after 2013 , request you to group together and make yourselves heard. Sadly Employment based Immigration is the least priority for politicians, Unless they see a big benefit no one will lift a finger. They see it as a cash cow where you will pay into the system at the highest levels for decades with no ability to ever use it for unemployment or Social Security/Medical.

  6. #31
    https://www.cato.org/blog/100000-chi...ily-separation

    Always love reading David Bier, one of the best analysts out there who provides solid data for any statements he makes.

    Some of the numbers here are mind boggling, but not surprising. If there is a way to at least not count children as part of the quotas, it will be a huge step.

    I think a whole bunch of people need to petition him on twitter or something to seek a policy role in the new admin.

  7. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Hi AceMan,
    It will take time for this to pick steam. Currently almost everyone , even those with PDs in 2018 believe that there will soon be a path for them to get Greened. If we need them to understand the reality , we will need to put the numbers in front so that they understand that the chances of getting a GC are very minimal in the next 15-20 years if your PD is after 2014. Bill after Bill has failed the senate.
    A simple stats is that there are an avg of 50K people applying for perm in EB2 and EB3 India every year. Removing duplicates and abandoned petitions this will translate to atleast a conservative 70K GCs a year when you add dependents . EB2+EB3 is just 5600 GCs a year for India . Even if you get a spillover of 10K a year (optimistically speaking, realistically 2-3K) that is 15K . Do that Math and you quickly realize that you will run out of time before your kids turn 21 .
    Those with PDs after 2013 , request you to group together and make yourselves heard. Sadly Employment based Immigration is the least priority for politicians, Unless they see a big benefit no one will lift a finger. They see it as a cash cow where you will pay into the system at the highest levels for decades with no ability to ever use it for unemployment or Social Security/Medical.
    A look at these 2 documents exactly 2 years apart shows how ignorant lot we are.

    https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...2020_Q1_Q2.pdf
    https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...r_May_2018.PDF


    More than 80,000 people applied for EB2 from India, while EB3 had only 15,000 of which a lot would be downgrades from late 2018.

  8. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by AceMan View Post
    A look at these 2 documents exactly 2 years apart shows how ignorant lot we are.

    https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...2020_Q1_Q2.pdf
    https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...r_May_2018.PDF


    More than 80,000 people applied for EB2 from India, while EB3 had only 15,000 of which a lot would be downgrades from late 2018.
    Yes that comes to an avg of 50K a year applications as I mentioned that will add up to atleast 70K GCs a year . At the current rate it would take 7-8 years at a minimum to clear a year of India backlog . Those 2013 PDs and later time to act .

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    Nov Visa Bulletein Retrogression

    Quote Originally Posted by newyorker123 View Post
    And this, after maintaining all the time that there will be no retrogression. Their message: Be happy with the EAD's
    Any idea, how retrogression will impact aging out kids?

  10. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by manudon007 View Post
    Any idea, how retrogression will impact aging out kids?
    If your priority dates reached Final Action date then kids are protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieur View Post
    If your priority dates reached Final Action date then kids are protected.
    So, if the priority date becomes current even once in the Final Action date chart and then retrogresses, the kids are protected, correct ?
    EB2-India; PD: 4th Nov 2011; I-485 RD : 1 OCT 2021; I-485 ND : 15 OCT 2021; 485 Receipt # : MSC2290023***; I-485J ND : 5 NOV 2021; BM : 22 NOV 2021;

  12. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by sling10 View Post
    So, if the priority date becomes current even once in the Final Action date chart and then retrogresses, the kids are protected, correct ?
    Boss, you just made an answer back into a question.
    Yes.

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