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  1. #501
    Any late 2009/ Jan 2010 EB3 filers who are current this month, but never had an AOS interview, have gotten their I485 approved?

  2. #502
    Congratulations Redsox2009.. Agree on all your points .. yes was ignorant like you and many others.. did not file from 2006 and ended up late, filed early 2011 (6th year of H1b)... hard lessons learnt.. but i push everyotger person i know not to delay there GC..

    Finally applied fir my 485 .. will follow your advice to keep up with USCIS...

    By the way did you post any number crunching with new upgrade scenario ?how you forsee FAD date movements.. when you get a chance do share your perspective ��
    Last edited by mesan123; 10-20-2020 at 07:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delguy View Post
    Yes and same experience here too. No medicals this time and still waiting for forms to be signed. Almost 2 weeks since I submitted everything to them.
    What is ur PD

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    Exact on 10/8 we received email and submitted via email and printed copy on 10/14
    Did receive email of confirmation
    Still waiting
    I am waiting for visa bulletin too
    With PD of oct 2010-eb3, I want to submit my medicals too and not wait for rfe

  5. #505
    As like you and many others (inspiring backgrounds) that went thru similar situations, came here in 2006 but none to guide thru the process and mention the importance of PERM. I was in an assumption that if I worked 5+ years then I would become eligible for EB2 - thinking about those 2007-08 missing the boat days, i feel like a moron and cry within about my ignorance. Finally after so much struggle and failed PERM attempts, I filed the case during my 6th yr of H1b in May2011. Moved many employers and locations and about to file my 485 this month based on Oct'20 bulletin. My GC journey hasn't ended but reading you guys experiences does make a difference to many passive readers like me and provides confidence.

    I think the company (and HR) that sponsors for H1 should also educate on the GC and PERM possibilities.

    [QUOTE=redsox2009;67419]I wanted to share some positive news. Last week I received my 485 Approval notices.

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    [QUOTE=FlowerPot;67444]As like you and many others (inspiring backgrounds) that went thru similar situations, came here in 2006 but none to guide thru the process and mention the importance of PERM. I was in an assumption that if I worked 5+ years then I would become eligible for EB2 - thinking about those 2007-08 missing the boat days, i feel like a moron and cry within about my ignorance. Finally after so much struggle and failed PERM attempts, I filed the case during my 6th yr of H1b in May2011. Moved many employers and locations and about to file my 485 this month based on Oct'20 bulletin. My GC journey hasn't ended but reading you guys experiences does make a difference to many passive readers like me and provides confidence.

    I think the company (and HR) that sponsors for H1 should also educate on the GC and PERM possibilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by redsox2009 View Post
    I wanted to share some positive news. Last week I received my 485 Approval notices.
    Same Story repeated almost with everyone , I came here as a graduate student in Jan 2003 , working since 2005, naively had no clue about PERM/GC backlog.. it was an afterthought because H1-B will expire. Looking back now I really chuckle at my naiveness . Same story two fold is true for my wife.
    And from my experience, most times companies do not have employees best interest at heart, they are not the right people to educate.

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    Similar story as everyone, tried to file GC in 2006,couldnt complete the process and joined new company and waited too long to file,finally did it in dec 2009. still waiting for the GC

  8. #508
    What are the predictions for EB3 ?
    In oct 2019 Eb3 row , Philippines and Vietnam were current then had a April 2019 as a date in sept 2020.
    Assuming ~5000 visas allowed to india China Philippines and Vietnam that’s 20K visas per country ;
    I am assuming worst case scenario 20K visas will be allotted to EB3 ROW ( 1 year demand ) to make it current.
    That’s leave additional 20K visas to be given to the most backlog category ( EB3-I).
    Is this rough math correct ?

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    Congratulations Red Sox. Great news. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inspired_p View Post
    What are the predictions for EB3 ?
    In oct 2019 Eb3 row , Philippines and Vietnam were current then had a April 2019 as a date in sept 2020.
    Assuming ~5000 visas allowed to india China Philippines and Vietnam that’s 20K visas per country ;
    I am assuming worst case scenario 20K visas will be allotted to EB3 ROW ( 1 year demand ) to make it current.
    That’s leave additional 20K visas to be given to the most backlog category ( EB3-I).
    Is this rough math correct ?
    My equation is this:
    261k = 150k(EB India) + 111k(EB others)

  11. #511
    Quote Originally Posted by YTeleven View Post
    My equation is this:
    261k = 150k(EB India) + 111k(EB others)
    Can you split further and the expected FAD for EB2I and EB3I( If no Wastage) . Too much exited after Decade wait.
    Last edited by gcconnect; 10-20-2020 at 11:20 AM.

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    @YTEleven, EB3 March 2011 here. Any chances of FAD reaching our dates by Oct 2021?

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    Hello gurus/pandits,
    priority date: Eb2 Dec 2009
    How about doing medicals now ( responded to medical RFE in July 2018)as a proactive measure in the anticipation of forwarding movement in EB2? As the medicals are valid for two years, and hopefully EB2 move to December 09 by the end of 2021...any thoughts?

  14. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by YTeleven View Post
    My equation is this:
    261k = 150k(EB India) + 111k(EB others)
    How do you get to that ?
    I calculated around 64K each for EB1 , EB2 and EB3 . 7% rule limits visa to 5K for the backlogged countries ( india, China , Vietnam and Philippines and maybe Mexico). Rest 40K are available for EB3- ROW to avail as many as they want. I figure they might use up 20K AOS max ; as many consulates are closed. So rest of the 20-25K should go to most backlogged country in the category that is EB3-I. So only ~30K to EB3-I and not 50k according to your calculations

  15. #515
    Quote Originally Posted by idliman View Post
    smuggymba, I think it is better for you if you proactively submit I485-J. This will force an RFE for medicals and G-325A when the I485J is approved in 3 months. The medicals are valid for 2 years. So by the time, you respond to medical RFE, it will be 4 to 6 months from now and you will be current.

    Or you can stay put and wait for the RFE when dates are current.
    My PD is March 2010. on EAD+AP since 2012.

    Changed jobs in 2015 and never field AC21. In anticipation of being current now or in the next 6 months - Should I pro-actively file AC21 alone or file AC21 + 485 supplement J together?

  16. #516
    Quote Originally Posted by smuggymba View Post
    My PD is March 2010. on EAD+AP since 2012.

    Changed jobs in 2015 and never field AC21. In anticipation of being current now or in the next 6 months - Should I pro-actively file AC21 alone or file AC21 + 485 supplement J together?
    Smuggymba,

    I did file for AC21 rightaway when i switched jobs. I had an RFE in 2018 for Supplement J and provided the Supp J after the .
    I did exactly per my attorney's recommendation. My 2 cents is for you to do the same ASAP - atleast AC21.
    Plz do consult with your attorney before making final decision.

  17. #517
    Quote Originally Posted by inspired_p View Post
    How do you get to that ?
    I calculated around 64K each for EB1 , EB2 and EB3 . 7% rule limits visa to 5K for the backlogged countries ( india, China , Vietnam and Philippines and maybe Mexico). Rest 40K are available for EB3- ROW to avail as many as they want. I figure they might use up 20K AOS max ; as many consulates are closed. So rest of the 20-25K should go to most backlogged country in the category that is EB3-I. So only ~30K to EB3-I and not 50k according to your calculations
    Why only 64K? why not this: 75K +75K +75K+18K+18K = 261K.
    The logic behind my numbers is this:
    In any normal processing year, "EB others" will get max 125K yearly and most of those are new applications but this year even though there is abundant of visa supply "EB Others" demand will be less due to various reasons and eventually they all may consume just 111K visas and the remaining 150K should go to India. I'm not calculating at the granular level, key here is to predict how many visas others will consume and the rest of the visas are for India.

  18. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by YTeleven View Post
    Why only 64K? why not this: 75K +75K +75K+18K+18K = 261K.
    The logic behind my numbers is this:
    In any normal processing year, "EB others" will get max 125K yearly and most of those are new applications but this year even though there is abundant of visa supply "EB Others" demand will be less due to various reasons and eventually they all may consume just 111K visas and the remaining 150K should go to India. I'm not calculating at the granular level, key here is to predict how many visas others will consume and the rest of the visas are for India.
    Understood. Make sense. It all depends on how the FB spillover is used across the backlogged countries I guess. Based on the rules all the spillover after the 7% limit is counted for other countries should go to India applicants in EB2 and EB3 categories; and EB2 should get some more based on how many are unused in EB-1 as well .
    Both EB2 and EB3 FAD should move rapidly based on this.

  19. #519
    Quote Originally Posted by Justmyself View Post
    @YTEleven, EB3 March 2011 here. Any chances of FAD reaching our dates by Oct 2021?
    I am not YTEleven but still taking a stab; Based on approved I-140 for both EB2 and 3; yes there is real good chance. Only disclaimer is visa wastage

  20. #520
    Quote Originally Posted by YTeleven View Post
    Why only 64K? why not this: 75K +75K +75K+18K+18K = 261K.
    The logic behind my numbers is this:
    In any normal processing year, "EB others" will get max 125K yearly and most of those are new applications but this year even though there is abundant of visa supply "EB Others" demand will be less due to various reasons and eventually they all may consume just 111K visas and the remaining 150K should go to India. I'm not calculating at the granular level, key here is to predict how many visas others will consume and the rest of the visas are for India.
    YT - My PD is Dec 2, 2011( in EB2) . My company has started working on EB3 downgrade but am not sure if they shall be able to file before 31st Oct .
    Having said that , If things return to pre-covid times (consulates open ,etc..) by March 2021 then do you see FD/FAD dates move any further or do you see halt / retrogress ?
    In other words , are we saying that for FY21 atleast we are already set for good despite things returning to normal by early spring or summer ?

  21. #521
    Quote Originally Posted by rohanvus View Post
    YT - My PD is Dec 2, 2011( in EB2) . My company has started working on EB3 downgrade but am not sure if they shall be able to file before 31st Oct .
    Having said that , If things return to pre-covid times (consulates open ,etc..) by March 2021 then do you see FD/FAD dates move any further or do you see halt / retrogress ?
    In other words , are we saying that for FY21 atleast we are already set for good despite things returning to normal by early spring or summer ?
    You try your best before 30th not 31st Oct. But for your PD the EB3 dates will be current even if there is a retrogress from Jan2015, so you may get several opportunities to downgrade in future.

  22. #522
    Quote Originally Posted by Justmyself View Post
    @YTEleven, EB3 March 2011 here. Any chances of FAD reaching our dates by Oct 2021?
    99.99% chances are there.

  23. #523
    Quote Originally Posted by YTeleven View Post
    You try your best before 30th not 31st Oct. But for your PD the EB3 dates will be current even if there is a retrogress from Jan2015, so you may get several opportunities to downgrade in future.
    Thanks YT - Sounds like you are bullish on EB3 . In worst case if I stay put in EB2, then you dont see EB2 dec 2,2011 getting current in a year from now ?
    Is EB3 better regardless of whatever vertical spillover (from EB1 ) EB2 may get ?

  24. #524
    Quote Originally Posted by rohanvus View Post
    Thanks YT - Sounds like you are bullish on EB3 . In worst case if I stay put in EB2, then you dont see EB2 dec 2,2011 getting current in a year from now ?
    Is EB3 better regardless of whatever vertical spillover (from EB1 ) EB2 may get ?
    I feel that the only thing that's going to limit the FAD to reach the DF mentioned in the Oct bulletin is the processing capacity/Willingness of USCIS. There are already some reports of USCIS waiving interviews for some EB category applications. So it may seem that USCIS does have willingness to speed up the process.

  25. #525
    Quote Originally Posted by inspired_p View Post
    Understood. Make sense. It all depends on how the FB spillover is used across the backlogged countries I guess. Based on the rules all the spillover after the 7% limit is counted for other countries should go to India applicants in EB2 and EB3 categories; and EB2 should get some more based on how many are unused in EB-1 as well .
    Both EB2 and EB3 FAD should move rapidly based on this.
    Can USCIS give more than 7% visas to EB3-china as well or the rules specifically states that any spillover has to go to the most backlogged country completely ?

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