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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsen View Post
    https://twitter.com/ckuck/status/129...6%3Fpage%3D585

    Looks like deal was reached. UC this week?
    Have not heard of a deal. Just immigration attorneys nervous that it will pass 😂.

    Durbin is not going to let it pass.

  2. #302
    Quote Originally Posted by vsivarama View Post
    This seems to be a distant dream. Even with UC, the bill needs to be voted in house and not vetoed by DJT. While Stephen Miller has his ear this will not be that easy. Sorry to dampen your spirits, but I think we should be cautiously optimistic.
    There is enough votes to override veto. But I think if President vetoes it may need to be passed again

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsen View Post
    https://twitter.com/ckuck/status/129...6%3Fpage%3D585

    Looks like deal was reached. UC this week?
    Unfortunately that twit seems disingenuous. Looks like posturing. I hope I am wrong though.
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  4. #304
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Unfortunately that twit seems disingenuous. Looks like posturing. I hope I am wrong though.
    Yeah the tweets at him from the IV supporters have gotten under his skin.

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    From Greg Siskind just now

    S.386 Update - There is a negotiated version of the bill that has been "hotlined". That means Senators will have to state objections today and then it will proceed to a unanimous consent. I will be posting a detailed summary of the language shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly View Post
    I saw that thread and very informative. Does anybody know why IV is not the one breaking this news and everybody else is? Why are they still tweeting hate at Durbin?
    I posted this as a reply to the thread but will copy it here

    The clock starts now. IF it passes tomorrow then there are 55 days in FY20 for it to pass the house which is in recess till Sept 8. The timeline to pass/conference and send to President is 12 days after that (Sept 20). Beyond that date even if Trump refuses to sign it the Bill will become law after October1 (10 days after sent to WH) but date of enactment now will be FY23. The House has to come back in at some point this month to pass a COVID relief Bill and this vote may be taken then if everybody is in agreement.
    Last edited by gs1968; 08-05-2020 at 12:20 PM.

  8. #308
    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    I saw that thread and very informative. Does anybody know why IV is not the one breaking this news and everybody else is? Why are they still tweeting hate at Durbin?
    I posted this as a reply to the thread but will copy it here

    The clock starts now. IF it passes tomorrow then there are 55 days in FY20 for it to pass the house which is in recess till Sept 8. The timeline to pass/conference and send to President is 12 days after that (Sept 20). Beyond that date even if Trump refuses to sign it the Bill will become law after October1 (10 days after sent to WH) but date of enactment now will be FY23. The House has to come back in at some point this month to pass a COVID relief Bill and this vote may be taken then if everybody is in agreement.
    The bill seems really complicated for a ton of people in Congress to read and digest it in the midst of the other critical bills that are being worked on. For that one reason, I feel the chances of it getting through the House are bleak. If it gets through the Senate tomorrow, it will be up to Durbin and other leading Democrats in the Senate to convince the House leadership to pass it. The House has a more acrimonious stance toward Republican bills since they have a majority and don't have to answer to anyone.

  9. #309
    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly View Post
    The bill seems really complicated for a ton of people in Congress to read and digest it in the midst of the other critical bills that are being worked on. For that one reason, I feel the chances of it getting through the House are bleak. If it gets through the Senate tomorrow, it will be up to Durbin and other leading Democrats in the Senate to convince the House leadership to pass it. The House has a more acrimonious stance toward Republican bills since they have a majority and don't have to answer to anyone.
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    Why did Durbin put a hold on this bill and why did he reach a deal right now? This bill does not seem to have any significant changes. The signature piece that was to benefit the American workers based on 50/50 rule is offset by EAD post 2 years of i-140 approval. Maybe I am missing out on some key pieces. But most of the bill is as it was leaked a couple of months ago.
    Last edited by vsivarama; 08-05-2020 at 01:19 PM.

  11. #311
    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    I saw that thread and very informative. Does anybody know why IV is not the one breaking this news and everybody else is? Why are they still tweeting hate at Durbin?
    I posted this as a reply to the thread but will copy it here

    The clock starts now. IF it passes tomorrow then there are 55 days in FY20 for it to pass the house which is in recess till Sept 8. The timeline to pass/conference and send to President is 12 days after that (Sept 20). Beyond that date even if Trump refuses to sign it the Bill will become law after October1 (10 days after sent to WH) but date of enactment now will be FY23. The House has to come back in at some point this month to pass a COVID relief Bill and this vote may be taken then if everybody is in agreement.
    Looks like I could be wrong! Looks like they have been very creative by pushing the immediate scrapping of country caps to next year and thus all those extra 100K FB visa spillover will be good enough for "Do no harm"!! That's what makes me believe this has a decent chance of passing.

    House will honor their senate whip's bill. I don't think there is any substantial resistance in house. Also this bill is actually very clean and straightforward. No new visas, toughning H1B abuse is how they will sell to GOP base. Dems will talk about protecting children.

    As per IV, I am convinced they have been shut out of the process. Their language and confrontational approach has been a disgrace to highly qualified and law abiding EB-IC community.
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    UC at quarter till 3 apparently. Will know in a few min I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whereismygc View Post
    In the Siskind points listed why are they only talking about EB2 and EB3, the breakup and allocation across countries may be same for EB1 too right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly View Post
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?474523-1/senate-session

    for anyone interested in watching live.
    Say if the bill passes, wouldn't uscis and dos first try to clear the backlog of ROW then india and china with 110k spillover

  17. #317
    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly View Post
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?474523-1/senate-session

    for anyone interested in watching live.
    Why watch live now? Is the bill scheduled for UC today?

  18. #318
    Wow Lee again objected because some of those amendments make it unable to pass (plain english - his party is not with him).
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    I think it's normal process. He will now try to get UC for S386 and Durbin will not object (I think).

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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Wow Lee again objected because some of those amendments make it unable to pass (plain english - his party is not with him).
    Or the democrats clearly know their amendments will be objected by Lee.

  21. #321
    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly View Post
    I think it's normal process. He will now try to get UC for S386 and Durbin will not object (I think).
    Oh ... i thought that's what Lee objected to. Then what was it?
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  22. #322
    Damn Durbin took his hold out and now Rick Scott has swooped in. Let this be a lesson for those who think things can get done quickly.

  23. #323
    alright ... so now finally when sen durbin did not object .... Rick Scott (R) florida has objected. He wants to preserve diversity .... and create a carve out based on the language that the people speak !!! What a load of ------- ?

    That's typical GOP for you. Absolute cunning suggestion that even accepted will be very difficult to implement.
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  24. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    alright ... so now finally when sen durbin did not object .... Rick Scott (R) florida has objected. He wants to preserve diversity .... and create a carve out based on the language that the people speak !!! What a load of ------- ?

    That's typical GOP for you. Absolute cunning suggestion that even accepted will be very difficult to implement.
    Also known as a poison pill.

  25. #325
    All of this back and forth is so unfair to Sen Lee. The funny and sad part is it is not Democrats, but his own party that is screwing him over. They have used him and are now abusing him.
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