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  1. #376
    Quote Originally Posted by NJMavarick View Post
    True! Looking at this..whats stopping another Senator to request for some other carve out! Knowing that all it takes is one Senator..I am not too optimistic. Mind says No, Heart says Yes.
    Marsha Blackburn seems to say no as well.... we shall see.

  2. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by EB22010Dec View Post
    Marsha Blackburn seems to say no as well.... we shall see.
    apparently that's an older letter so her current position might be different.

  3. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by bookworm View Post
    Read somewhere else that Perdue-Lee have a deal. Nurses will get 15K instead of 8K. Likely to be up for UC tomorrow.

    Now waiting for Bernie to pop up with a carve out for agricultural workers
    Nurses had 5K for the next 9 years under Rand deal, where is this 8K/15K coming from. Well what about other industries...agriculture, poultry, research, astrophysics and biotech. LOL.

    If that happens, I'd be impressed by the lobby of Nurses and who is funding them.

    If it doesn't pass this time around, it will be political suicide for Mike Lee; he better do his homework properly and have it checked before going to school.
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  4. #379
    Quote Originally Posted by smuggymba View Post
    Nurses had 5K for the next 9 years under Rand deal, where is this 8K/15K coming from. Well what about other industries...agriculture, poultry, research, astrophysics and biotech. LOL.

    If that happens, I'd be impressed by the lobby of Nurses and who is funding them.

    If it doesn't pass this time around, it will be political suicide for Mike Lee; he better do his homework properly and have it checked before going to school.
    Why wold you think it would be political suicide for Mike Lee if it does not pass? If that were the case, I am sure Democratic Senators would have been opposed to this. While I do think, before UC he needs to make sure that there are no other objections.

  5. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by NJMavarick View Post
    Why wold you think it would be political suicide for Mike Lee if it does not pass? If that were the case, I am sure Democratic Senators would have been opposed to this. While I do think, before UC he needs to make sure that there are no other objections.
    What I mean is he can't go for UC THIRD time around and have another Senator block it. Going for UC after UC after UC will make a mockery of him and the process and brings in more bad press. So, better be prepared well this time.

  6. #381
    So far many ROW students were not applying H1B, they were getting GC straight from OPT. There are many instances where their H1B is rejected, but GC is approved. With S386 bill, H1B rules are getting even more harder and here on wards every body has to apply for H1B in order to stay here and get a GC.

    For them getting GC is far more easier now than H1B. That's the primary reason why hate this bill.

    These are the ones competing with avg/below skilled Americans, not the people from big countries, who survive going through multiple H1B extension.

    This big selling point on this bill is strict H1B rules, so please be aware of this and mention this to your senators explicitly.
    Last edited by Raj0687; 09-25-2019 at 09:05 AM.

  7. #382

    Angry

    Looks like David Perdue agreed, but not Dick Durbin put a hold.
    I don't think UC will work, we shall see.

  8. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by EB22010Dec View Post
    Looks like David Perdue agreed, but not Dick Durbin put a hold.
    I don't think UC will work, we shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EB22010Dec View Post
    Looks like David Perdue agreed, but not Dick Durbin put a hold.
    I don't think UC will work, we shall see.
    Coming up for UC tomorrow according to Sen.Lee but is concerned about Sen.Durbin

  10. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    Coming up for UC tomorrow according to Sen.Lee but is concerned about Sen.Durbin
    Eagerly waiting for tomorrow; either Mike Lee is confident or he is setting up for giving up speech. Time will tell. Too many variables as of now; will be online on C-Span tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggymba View Post
    Eagerly waiting for tomorrow; either Mike Lee is confident or he is setting up for giving up speech. Time will tell. Too many variables as of now; will be online on C-Span tomorrow
    I agree. The timing is critical if they want this implemented by the start of fiscal year 2020. They expect immediate house concurrence without any conference. This will be a very useful first step towards expanding GC availability

  12. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    I agree. The timing is critical if they want this implemented by the start of fiscal year 2020. They expect immediate house concurrence without any conference. This will be a very useful first step towards expanding GC availability
    Postponed ... what ever it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggymba View Post
    Eagerly waiting for tomorrow; either Mike Lee is confident or he is setting up for giving up speech. Time will tell. Too many variables as of now; will be online on C-Span tomorrow
    IV tweeted this morning

    "We would like to share that the Unanimous Consent request for The Fairness For High Skilled Immigrants Act has been postponed. Members from the state of Illinois need to continue calling and sharing their stories with Senator Durbin."

    Seems it will be delayed. Anyone has more information on this ? Please share.

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    NIAC posted that Sen. Lee was asked to hold off on the unanimous consent vote because the new version of the bill cuts legal immigration.
    I am assuming this is a result of the deal with Sen.Perdue but there is no specific amendment showing up yet on GPO. It is possible that the language of the agreement was incorporated into the Bill itself as a substitute and so no separate amendment shows up. It seems like with every agreement reached they are straying further away from the House Bill and the base S.386 bill. Senate votes are scheduled between 1215 and 130pm and I expect they will recess and come back after Columbus Day. No cloture motions are pending after this

    PS-AILA has the new version of the Bill below.Increases nurses quota to 7200

    https://www.aila.org/File/Related/19080632.pdf

    It does appear like the derivative applicants for the 7200 visas are restricted to no more than 2800 per year.This could possibly be the reason.
    Last edited by gs1968; 09-26-2019 at 12:12 PM. Reason: Addition

  15. #390
    https://twitter.com/psyinfeld/status...877427200?s=21

    Senator Dick Durbin making a mockery of all Indians. Lets make sure we have our voices heard.

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    Adding insult to injury as if we haven't had enough already
    If we cannot even unite now and speak in one voice, I think we don’t deserve any better

    Must show our outrage and speak up

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock581 View Post
    https://twitter.com/psyinfeld/status...877427200?s=21

    Senator Dick Durbin making a mockery of all Indians. Lets make sure we have our voices heard.
    We should share it with all democrat's who sponsored the house bill.

  18. #393
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73s8aosYnkM

    Senator Dick Durbin has already made up his mind. I don't know if phone calls will work anymore. IV needs to come up with a different strategy.
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  19. #394
    Quote Originally Posted by gten20 View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73s8aosYnkM

    Senator Dick Durbin has already made up his mind. I don't know if phone calls will work anymore. IV needs to come up with a different strategy.
    Yeah. In hindsight, it should have been something like 50% FCFS and 50% current situation, may have reduced opposition drastically. It is too late now. Unanimous consent is almost impossible.


    Was just seeing USCIS director Cuccinelli's interview with CIS. He mentions:

    1. The reason they are not able to move forward with H4EAD abolition is because they have higher priority things around souther border that came up. And that the interventionist in the lawsuit (IV) carries heft and they can't just compromise with lawsuit filers.

    2. Around S386, he says that he has no sympathy for Iranian Americans. He seemed a little sympathetic towards Indian situation. But he sees no chance that the legislation can go through with unanimous consent.
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  20. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by gten20 View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73s8aosYnkM

    Senator Dick Durbin has already made up his mind. I don't know if phone calls will work anymore. IV needs to come up with a different strategy.
    These ROW guys, whose worst case scenario is that they have to wait 5 years are coming together in full force and we desis are sitting home waiting for someone else to do something.

    PS: I have met with congressmen's staff multiple times (not with IV though) so I try to do my bit. My close friends are too busy and have too many things going to be be thinking about this backlog.

    We as desis, deserve to be in backlog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggymba View Post
    These ROW guys, whose worst case scenario is that they have to wait 5 years are coming together in full force and we desis are sitting home waiting for someone else to do something.

    PS: I have met with congressmen's staff multiple times (not with IV though) so I try to do my bit. My close friends are too busy and have too many things going to be be thinking about this backlog.

    We as desis, deserve to be in backlog.
    If we do not stand up for ourselves , no one else will
    Its surprising that ROW unity beats us almost everywhere. Look at the ROw'ers clapping and shouting in that video. Hey, they seem to beat us even at trolling ....and we are supposed to be the IT experts !
    If we are 560, 000 - Why can't we show up and get counted under one word . DISCRIMINATION.

    Can someone ask the Senator - do countries immigrate or individuals immigrate ? If Indians can wait 56 years , why the rest cannot wait for their turn ?

  22. #397
    Here are a few truths we can derive from this:

    The bill is dead
    Durbin is an ass(h***)
    America continues to be a racist nation
    At the end of the day it's each race / nationality / person for themselves
    Modi's Howdy is a joke because he has actually no leverage or sway over Trump
    If the Irish or Israeli or any other nationality were being screwed other than Indians, this would have been fixed a long time ago

    On a personal note, I'm glad I got my Canadian PR. I would rather pay taxes there and become a citizen in three years.

  23. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by abcx13 View Post
    America continues to be a racist nation
    There is not really anything I can say that can really help you and others with your hurt.

    But I just wanted to say that America sure has a racist past as well as its fair share of racism even today. However America is not a racist country. I know today my words may not make much sense to you. But hopefully someday you will realize this.

    Immigration policy used to be driven purely through economic and geopolitical objectives. The Trump folks have injected racism into it. But America will bounce back to sanity sooner or later.
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  24. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by abcx13 View Post
    Here are a few truths we can derive from this:

    The bill is dead
    Durbin is an ass(h***)
    America continues to be a racist nation
    At the end of the day it's each race / nationality / person for themselves
    Modi's Howdy is a joke because he has actually no leverage or sway over Trump
    If the Irish or Israeli or any other nationality were being screwed other than Indians, this would have been fixed a long time ago

    On a personal note, I'm glad I got my Canadian PR. I would rather pay taxes there and become a citizen in three years.
    Congratulations on your canadian PR. I am curious if you live in US?
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  25. #400
    Guys,

    The system is what it is. You have to work within the limits of the current system and do what's best for you. I have listed a few things below that you can do to safeguard your future. Note that practicing the art of delayed gratification is big part of it.

    1. Find a job that you really enjoy, because you are going to stuck with it for a very long time. Even if it means transferring your immigration status to a new employer (H1b transfer, etc.)

    2. Make sure your spouse doesn't sit idle either waiting for GC. She can either find a job for herself or advance her education that will make her employable and be able to get her own H1b (in case H4 EAD is gone, you should rely on nothing).

    3. Work hard and make yourself indispensable to your employers.

    4. Save, save, save, and invest, invest, invest with a good solid investment plan. There are no get rich quick schemes here. A good investment plan is always long term just like your GC wait (delayed gratification).

    5. Do not lock yourself in any physical assets such as house, expensive cars, etc. In case something goes wrong and your have to leave the country, you should be able to liquidate everything with a click of a button. Renting is not bad no matter how much people will try to convince you the other way. Particularly, renting is not bad when your rent is paid from the dividends/capital gains from your investments that you made instead of putting that money towards down payments, big house expenses, etc.

    6. The idea of the above two bullet points is that you should be in a position to retire comfortably in India if you have to go back because of the GC mess. Then if you decide to work in India, good for you. But it should be optional. Note that financial independence is the true independence. I have seen people who got the GC after a long time and then stuck themselves all over again in a big house and 30 year expensive mortgage. That type of independence is hollow.

    7. Produce babies, at least two of them for reliability reasons (remember every plane has two engines in case one dies). When they become 21 years old (delayed gratification), they can sponsor your GC and you will get it with no wait. Now the game has changed. You are a parent of a U.S. citizen and the system will work for you whether you are in US or outside of US 5-10 years from now.

    8. It seems one of the big things in desi community is to show their parents America. Make sure you do that at least once for both side parents, so that bucket list item will be off of your chest in case you have to leave the country. While they are here, they can also babysit your kids for 6 months at a time when you and your spouse are busy in your respective jobs.

    Some of the above listed points may seem harsh and cold. But do you have any other alternative? As time passes, GC will become irrelevant. Waiting for GC when you have a million dollars in Bank is lot more fun than waiting for GC when you have only, say $25,000 in bank. Hope this helps!
    Last edited by vedu; 09-28-2019 at 02:37 PM.

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