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  1. #4026
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It is more likely that dates will retro in Dec .. not November. The reason is .. Nov bulletin comes in first week of Oct. There is virtually no data available in first week of Oct for CO to make a decision. Thus he can only make a decision and publish as part of Dec bulletin.

    Aug 2008 and if you are not approved ... you need to start making noise and explore why.
    Hi Q,

    Other than opening a SR what steps are recommended? Is there a posting/thread that explains these steps?

    My PD is Jun 30 2008 and it says RFE RR since June 30 2014, I waited for 60 days and opened a SR this week, Is there anything else I can do?

  2. #4027
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It is more likely that dates will retro in Dec .. not November. The reason is .. Nov bulletin comes in first week of Oct. There is virtually no data available in first week of Oct for CO to make a decision. Thus he can only make a decision and publish as part of Dec bulletin.

    Aug 2008 and if you are not approved ... you need to start making noise and explore why.
    Hi Q,

    Other than opening a SR what steps are recommended? Is there a posting/thread that explains these steps?

    My PD is Jun 30 2008 and it says RFE RR since June 30 2014, I waited for 60 days and opened a SR this week, Is there anything else I can do?

  3. #4028
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It is more likely that dates will retro in Dec .. not November. The reason is .. Nov bulletin comes in first week of Oct. There is virtually no data available in first week of Oct for CO to make a decision. Thus he can only make a decision and publish as part of Dec bulletin.
    Internal retrogression may happen anytime in Nov. That happened last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Aug 2008 and if you are not approved ... you need to start making noise and explore why.
    I think he is a first time filer and I think none of the first-time filer have gotten GC / EAD until now.

  4. #4029
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It is more likely that dates will retro in Dec .. not November. The reason is .. Nov bulletin comes in first week of Oct. There is virtually no data available in first week of Oct for CO to make a decision. Thus he can only make a decision and publish as part of Dec bulletin.
    Internal retrogression may happen anytime in Nov. That happened last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Aug 2008 and if you are not approved ... you need to start making noise and explore why.
    I think he is a first time filer and I think none of the first-time filer have gotten GC / EAD until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It is more likely that dates will retro in Dec .. not November. The reason is .. Nov bulletin comes in first week of Oct. There is virtually no data available in first week of Oct for CO to make a decision. Thus he can only make a decision and publish as part of Dec bulletin.

    Aug 2008 and if you are not approved ... you need to start making noise and explore why.
    Q,

    It is true that when CO sets the November VB he won't have a great deal of information on actual approvals in October.

    I do think he will have sufficient information to retrogress the COD, if he feels that will be necessary.

    a) He knows USCIS can approve 5-6k EB2-I cases in a month.

    b) He will know, from the Demand Data, how many cases were left unapproved from FY2014.

    c) He will know, with reasonable certainty, how many spare FB visas are available to EB in FY2015.

    With that information, CO will be able to set a figure for the number of visa numbers he can make available to EB2-I at the beginning of the FY.

    To me, that is sufficient information to decide whether to retrogress in the November VB or not.

    If the November VB does not retrogress, it is probably a sign that a reasonable number of FB visas are available to EB in FY2015.
    Without an irritant, there can be no pearl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It is more likely that dates will retro in Dec .. not November. The reason is .. Nov bulletin comes in first week of Oct. There is virtually no data available in first week of Oct for CO to make a decision. Thus he can only make a decision and publish as part of Dec bulletin.

    Aug 2008 and if you are not approved ... you need to start making noise and explore why.
    Q,

    It is true that when CO sets the November VB he won't have a great deal of information on actual approvals in October.

    I do think he will have sufficient information to retrogress the COD, if he feels that will be necessary.

    a) He knows USCIS can approve 5-6k EB2-I cases in a month.

    b) He will know, from the Demand Data, how many cases were left unapproved from FY2014.

    c) He will know, with reasonable certainty, how many spare FB visas are available to EB in FY2015.

    With that information, CO will be able to set a figure for the number of visa numbers he can make available to EB2-I at the beginning of the FY.

    To me, that is sufficient information to decide whether to retrogress in the November VB or not.

    If the November VB does not retrogress, it is probably a sign that a reasonable number of FB visas are available to EB in FY2015.
    Without an irritant, there can be no pearl.

  7. #4032
    Quote Originally Posted by Seeking_GC_Since_Jun_2008 View Post
    Hi Q,

    Other than opening a SR what steps are recommended? Is there a posting/thread that explains these steps?

    My PD is Jun 30 2008 and it says RFE RR since June 30 2014, I waited for 60 days and opened a SR this week, Is there anything else I can do?
    Yesterday only somebody posted very nice steps. Search in 485 discussion forum. Basically he recommended 4 steps.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

    Forum Glossary | Forum Rules and Guidelines | If your published post disappeared, check - Lies and Misinformation thread


  8. #4033
    Quote Originally Posted by Seeking_GC_Since_Jun_2008 View Post
    Hi Q,

    Other than opening a SR what steps are recommended? Is there a posting/thread that explains these steps?

    My PD is Jun 30 2008 and it says RFE RR since June 30 2014, I waited for 60 days and opened a SR this week, Is there anything else I can do?
    Yesterday only somebody posted very nice steps. Search in 485 discussion forum. Basically he recommended 4 steps.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

    Forum Glossary | Forum Rules and Guidelines | If your published post disappeared, check - Lies and Misinformation thread


  9. #4034
    Thanks. i missed he having filed only recently.

    As per internal retro .. first of all there is no such thing. But I think I know what you are saying. They will stop allocating visas when they run out of visas. It is as simple as that.

    But if dates are current people can still continue to file 485s. So what you call IR is not what we were discussing. We were discussing VB dates being retro'd in Nov vs Dec.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan01 View Post
    Internal retrogression may happen anytime in Nov. That happened last year.



    I think he is a first time filer and I think none of the first-time filer have gotten GC / EAD until now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    Q,

    It is true that when CO sets the November VB he won't have a great deal of information on actual approvals in October.

    I do think he will have sufficient information to retrogress the COD, if he feels that will be necessary.

    a) He knows USCIS can approve 5-6k EB2-I cases in a month.

    b) He will know, from the Demand Data, how many cases were left unapproved from FY2014.

    c) He will know, with reasonable certainty, how many spare FB visas are available to EB in FY2015.

    With that information, CO will be able to set a figure for the number of visa numbers he can make available to EB2-I at the beginning of the FY.

    To me, that is sufficient information to decide whether to retrogress in the November VB or not.

    If the November VB does not retrogress, it is probably a sign that a reasonable number of FB visas are available to EB in FY2015.
    Spec thanks. To retro he doesn't need a great deal of accurate information. He can easily retro in Oct bulletin itself. But the fact he waits even one month tells me that he might as well wait for two because that 1 month doesn't really add more value. Also I think just because dates are current doesn't mean DOS is obligated to release visas. Absolutely not. They can keep dates current and yet continue to allocate as per their framework.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

    Forum Glossary | Forum Rules and Guidelines | If your published post disappeared, check - Lies and Misinformation thread


  10. #4035
    Thanks. i missed he having filed only recently.

    As per internal retro .. first of all there is no such thing. But I think I know what you are saying. They will stop allocating visas when they run out of visas. It is as simple as that.

    But if dates are current people can still continue to file 485s. So what you call IR is not what we were discussing. We were discussing VB dates being retro'd in Nov vs Dec.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan01 View Post
    Internal retrogression may happen anytime in Nov. That happened last year.



    I think he is a first time filer and I think none of the first-time filer have gotten GC / EAD until now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    Q,

    It is true that when CO sets the November VB he won't have a great deal of information on actual approvals in October.

    I do think he will have sufficient information to retrogress the COD, if he feels that will be necessary.

    a) He knows USCIS can approve 5-6k EB2-I cases in a month.

    b) He will know, from the Demand Data, how many cases were left unapproved from FY2014.

    c) He will know, with reasonable certainty, how many spare FB visas are available to EB in FY2015.

    With that information, CO will be able to set a figure for the number of visa numbers he can make available to EB2-I at the beginning of the FY.

    To me, that is sufficient information to decide whether to retrogress in the November VB or not.

    If the November VB does not retrogress, it is probably a sign that a reasonable number of FB visas are available to EB in FY2015.
    Spec thanks. To retro he doesn't need a great deal of accurate information. He can easily retro in Oct bulletin itself. But the fact he waits even one month tells me that he might as well wait for two because that 1 month doesn't really add more value. Also I think just because dates are current doesn't mean DOS is obligated to release visas. Absolutely not. They can keep dates current and yet continue to allocate as per their framework.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

    Forum Glossary | Forum Rules and Guidelines | If your published post disappeared, check - Lies and Misinformation thread


  11. #4036
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Yesterday only somebody posted very nice steps. Search in 485 discussion forum. Basically he recommended 4 steps.
    Thanks Q, found it!

  12. #4037
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Yesterday only somebody posted very nice steps. Search in 485 discussion forum. Basically he recommended 4 steps.
    Thanks Q, found it!

  13. #4038
    Can you please send me the link?

    I'm June 2008 with no signs of approval. Opened SR and contacted Congressman, planning to follow-up with them on Monday

    Its really disappointing - First it was TSC who hardly approved any cases in July, then when they finally started approving in August it was all random and now in September there are busy approving 2009 cases.




    Quote Originally Posted by Seeking_GC_Since_Jun_2008 View Post
    Thanks Q, found it!

  14. #4039
    Can you please send me the link?

    I'm June 2008 with no signs of approval. Opened SR and contacted Congressman, planning to follow-up with them on Monday

    Its really disappointing - First it was TSC who hardly approved any cases in July, then when they finally started approving in August it was all random and now in September there are busy approving 2009 cases.




    Quote Originally Posted by Seeking_GC_Since_Jun_2008 View Post
    Thanks Q, found it!

  15. #4040
    Quote Originally Posted by venkat View Post
    Can you please send me the link?

    I'm June 2008 with no signs of approval. Opened SR and contacted Congressman, planning to follow-up with them on Monday

    Its really disappointing - First it was TSC who hardly approved any cases in July, then when they finally started approving in August it was all random and now in September there are busy approving 2009 cases.

    I hear you man....I'm in the same boat as you June 2008 PD with TSC

    http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...With-Your-Case

  16. #4041
    Quote Originally Posted by venkat View Post
    Can you please send me the link?

    I'm June 2008 with no signs of approval. Opened SR and contacted Congressman, planning to follow-up with them on Monday

    Its really disappointing - First it was TSC who hardly approved any cases in July, then when they finally started approving in August it was all random and now in September there are busy approving 2009 cases.

    I hear you man....I'm in the same boat as you June 2008 PD with TSC

    http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...With-Your-Case

  17. #4042
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Thanks. i missed he having filed only recently.

    As per internal retro .. first of all there is no such thing. But I think I know what you are saying. They will stop allocating visas when they run out of visas. It is as simple as that.

    But if dates are current people can still continue to file 485s. So what you call IR is not what we were discussing. We were discussing VB dates being retro'd in Nov vs Dec.
    Q,

    I understand that the discussion is about the visa bulletin. But I was just trying to point out to " IsItWorthTheTrouble" that dates begin current for Nov bulletin does not mean that visas will continue to be allocated until Nov 30, 2014. They can internally stop allocating visas on any date between Nov 1 - Nov 30.

    Since the original post was from someone who is a first time filer, he is trying to find out whether he gets GC or not and thus I thought its important to highlight the fact it depends on when they internally stop allocating visas.

  18. #4043
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Thanks. i missed he having filed only recently.

    As per internal retro .. first of all there is no such thing. But I think I know what you are saying. They will stop allocating visas when they run out of visas. It is as simple as that.

    But if dates are current people can still continue to file 485s. So what you call IR is not what we were discussing. We were discussing VB dates being retro'd in Nov vs Dec.
    Q,

    I understand that the discussion is about the visa bulletin. But I was just trying to point out to " IsItWorthTheTrouble" that dates begin current for Nov bulletin does not mean that visas will continue to be allocated until Nov 30, 2014. They can internally stop allocating visas on any date between Nov 1 - Nov 30.

    Since the original post was from someone who is a first time filer, he is trying to find out whether he gets GC or not and thus I thought its important to highlight the fact it depends on when they internally stop allocating visas.

  19. #4044
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan01 View Post
    Q,

    I understand that the discussion is about the visa bulletin. But I was just trying to point out to " IsItWorthTheTrouble" that dates begin current for Nov bulletin does not mean that visas will continue to be allocated until Nov 30, 2014. They can internally stop allocating visas on any date between Nov 1 - Nov 30.

    Since the original post was from someone who is a first time filer, he is trying to find out whether he gets GC or not and thus I thought its important to highlight the fact it depends on when they internally stop allocating visas.
    Thank Jagan. You are right.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

    Forum Glossary | Forum Rules and Guidelines | If your published post disappeared, check - Lies and Misinformation thread


  20. #4045
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan01 View Post
    Q,

    I understand that the discussion is about the visa bulletin. But I was just trying to point out to " IsItWorthTheTrouble" that dates begin current for Nov bulletin does not mean that visas will continue to be allocated until Nov 30, 2014. They can internally stop allocating visas on any date between Nov 1 - Nov 30.

    Since the original post was from someone who is a first time filer, he is trying to find out whether he gets GC or not and thus I thought its important to highlight the fact it depends on when they internally stop allocating visas.
    Thank Jagan. You are right.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

    Forum Glossary | Forum Rules and Guidelines | If your published post disappeared, check - Lies and Misinformation thread


  21. #4046
    I think sometime next week i've to go ahead with the below option:

    Seek assistance of Ombudsman: http://www.dhs.gov/case-assistance After speaking to NCSC L2 I was so mad that I wanted to kill someone but that would make me a permanent resident of a different kind. So I submitted a DHS 7001 Request with on 9/2/2014.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seeking_GC_Since_Jun_2008 View Post
    I hear you man....I'm in the same boat as you June 2008 PD with TSC

    http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...With-Your-Case

  22. #4047
    I think sometime next week i've to go ahead with the below option:

    Seek assistance of Ombudsman: http://www.dhs.gov/case-assistance After speaking to NCSC L2 I was so mad that I wanted to kill someone but that would make me a permanent resident of a different kind. So I submitted a DHS 7001 Request with on 9/2/2014.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seeking_GC_Since_Jun_2008 View Post
    I hear you man....I'm in the same boat as you June 2008 PD with TSC

    http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...With-Your-Case

  23. #4048
    DOL Perm process target for 2015 : 250-350 days, 2014 target was 150-225 days.

    http://immigration-law.com/


    DOL Stategic Plans and Performance Goals FY 2014-2018 and Foreign Labor Certification Programs

    DOL developed its 5-year strategic plan and performance goals for various programs for the Department. For the Office of Foreign Labor Certifications, because of the uncertainity of the comprehensive immigration reform activities at the legislative level and administrative level, it could only determine the goals for performance goals for PERM program for two years (2014 and 2015).

    2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
    H-1B (7 days) 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
    H-2A (30 days) 80% 80% 80% 80% 80%
    H-2B (30 days) 85% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%
    PERM (Audit Track) 305-450 days 475-600 days ? ? ?
    PERM (Non-Audit Track) 150-225 days 250-350 days ? ? ?
    Employers should be prepared to deal with anticipated further delays in processing of PERM applications in FY 2015 which starts from October 2014. We were hoping that the processing times for PERM would be improved in the near future, but the DOL had set the target much lower for the FY 2015 for whatever reasons. For the foreign labor certification program in this five-year strategic plan, please visit pp. 54-56.

  24. #4049
    DOL Perm process target for 2015 : 250-350 days, 2014 target was 150-225 days.

    http://immigration-law.com/


    DOL Stategic Plans and Performance Goals FY 2014-2018 and Foreign Labor Certification Programs

    DOL developed its 5-year strategic plan and performance goals for various programs for the Department. For the Office of Foreign Labor Certifications, because of the uncertainity of the comprehensive immigration reform activities at the legislative level and administrative level, it could only determine the goals for performance goals for PERM program for two years (2014 and 2015).

    2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
    H-1B (7 days) 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
    H-2A (30 days) 80% 80% 80% 80% 80%
    H-2B (30 days) 85% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%
    PERM (Audit Track) 305-450 days 475-600 days ? ? ?
    PERM (Non-Audit Track) 150-225 days 250-350 days ? ? ?
    Employers should be prepared to deal with anticipated further delays in processing of PERM applications in FY 2015 which starts from October 2014. We were hoping that the processing times for PERM would be improved in the near future, but the DOL had set the target much lower for the FY 2015 for whatever reasons. For the foreign labor certification program in this five-year strategic plan, please visit pp. 54-56.

  25. #4050
    Does this mean we have a chance of good spillover next year?


    Quote Originally Posted by vik123 View Post
    DOL Perm process target for 2015 : 250-350 days, 2014 target was 150-225 days.

    http://immigration-law.com/


    DOL Stategic Plans and Performance Goals FY 2014-2018 and Foreign Labor Certification Programs

    DOL developed its 5-year strategic plan and performance goals for various programs for the Department. For the Office of Foreign Labor Certifications, because of the uncertainity of the comprehensive immigration reform activities at the legislative level and administrative level, it could only determine the goals for performance goals for PERM program for two years (2014 and 2015).

    2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
    H-1B (7 days) 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
    H-2A (30 days) 80% 80% 80% 80% 80%
    H-2B (30 days) 85% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%
    PERM (Audit Track) 305-450 days 475-600 days ? ? ?
    PERM (Non-Audit Track) 150-225 days 250-350 days ? ? ?
    Employers should be prepared to deal with anticipated further delays in processing of PERM applications in FY 2015 which starts from October 2014. We were hoping that the processing times for PERM would be improved in the near future, but the DOL had set the target much lower for the FY 2015 for whatever reasons. For the foreign labor certification program in this five-year strategic plan, please visit pp. 54-56.

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