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    Lightbulb Proposed H-4 Employment Authorization Rule

    Seems, some things have already started happening.

    From Oh Law Firm,

    12/11/2012: BRAVO! USCIS Has Just Commenced a Process Seeking White House Approval for H-4 Employment Authorization Proposed Rule!

    What a wonderful news for the H-1B professional families! USCIS has just initiated the rule making process for proposed H-4 employment authorization rule. Hats off to the USCIS leaders!!
    As we published last year, this rule proposes extending the availability of employment authorization to H-4 dependent spouses of principal H-1B nonimmigrants who have begun the process of seeking lawful permanent resident status through employment and have extended their authorized period of admission or "stay" in the U.S. under section 104(c) or 106(a) of Public Law 106-313, also known as the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (AC21). Allowing the eligible class of H-4 dependent spouses to work encourages professionals with high demand skills to remain in the country and help spur the innovation and growth of U.S. companies.
    It is going to take a little bit of time for this proposed rule to complete the rule-making process, but it is a fantastic news that after over a year since the plan was published in the Fall 2011 Semi-Annual Rule Making Agenda, the agency is finally starting to implement it from a stage of a plan to actual rule-making process. We have the best leadership in the INS/USCIS history!

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    Nice article in POLTICO

    Crafting a boom economy
    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...D-0E5C296F75D2

    It hightlighted four topis, TAX, Spending cuts, Natural resources and STEM.

    I hope, in D.C. STEM bill is still in the discussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupen86 View Post
    ....who have begun the process of seeking lawful permanent resident status through employment and have extended their authorized period of admission or "stay" in the U.S. under section 104(c) or 106(a) of Public Law 106-313, also known as the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (AC21)....
    Am I reading it right? Is it just for spouses of H1Bs who have filed I-485 and using AC21?
    PD: 08/25/2008 EB2I

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    Quote Originally Posted by PD2008AUG25 View Post
    Am I reading it right? Is it just for spouses of H1Bs who have filed I-485 and using AC21?
    No. Those spouses would already have EADs while applying for 485.

    Quote Originally Posted by rupen86 View Post
    Seems, some things have already started happening.

    From Oh Law Firm,

    12/11/2012: BRAVO! USCIS Has Just Commenced a Process Seeking White House Approval for H-4 Employment Authorization Proposed Rule!

    What a wonderful news for the H-1B professional families! USCIS has just initiated the rule making process for proposed H-4 employment authorization rule. Hats off to the USCIS leaders!!
    As we published last year, this rule proposes extending the availability of employment authorization to H-4 dependent spouses of principal H-1B nonimmigrants who have begun the process of seeking lawful permanent resident status through employment and have extended their authorized period of admission or "stay" in the U.S. under section 104(c) or 106(a) of Public Law 106-313, also known as the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (AC21). Allowing the eligible class of H-4 dependent spouses to work encourages professionals with high demand skills to remain in the country and help spur the innovation and growth of U.S. companies.
    It is going to take a little bit of time for this proposed rule to complete the rule-making process, but it is a fantastic news that after over a year since the plan was published in the Fall 2011 Semi-Annual Rule Making Agenda, the agency is finally starting to implement it from a stage of a plan to actual rule-making process. We have the best leadership in the INS/USCIS history!
    So the spouses or significant others of anyone with a
    (1) I140 applied or
    (2) with Labor in process AND past 6 yrs are eligible.

    It sounds like the spouses or significant others of someone with just Labor in process AND under 6 yrs will not be eligible.
    Last edited by vizcard; 12-11-2012 at 11:43 AM.

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    Does this also grant EAD to primary applicant of the Green Card I-140 application?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawks2012 View Post
    Does this also grant EAD to primary applicant of the Green Card I-140 application?
    No.

    Only the H4 spouse is eligible and only then if the H1B holder has extended their H1B beyond 6 years under the AC21 provisions (PERM more than 365 days or I-140 approved and PD not Current).
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    FR Citation #

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    No.

    Only the H4 spouse is eligible and only then if the H1B holder has extended their H1B beyond 6 years under the AC21 provisions (PERM more than 365 days or I-140 approved and PD not Current).
    When a rule is initiated , it has to be published in Federal Register and the FR citation# should be updated in the FR cite coloumn . But I am seeing this field empty .

    Where should we provides the comments and what's the status of this rule now?

    All, please share the updates.

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    Seems like a broken rule where it takes dependency on the Green Card processing and grants EAD for H-4 but:
    1. Doesn't grant EAD for Green Card's primary applicant
    2. Doesn't grant EAD for Spouse of Green Card's primary applicant if he/she is on H1-B

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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawks2012 View Post
    Seems like a broken rule where it takes dependency on the Green Card processing and grants EAD for H-4 but:
    1. Doesn't grant EAD for Green Card's primary applicant
    2. Doesn't grant EAD for Spouse of Green Card's primary applicant if he/she is on H1-B
    It's akin to the L1/L2 situation.

    In that case, the L1 does not get an EAD and if the spouse of an L1 has their own H1B, they don't get EAD either.

    For both L1 and H1B, they already have Employment Authorisation via their visa and in both cases it is specific to the job the visa was sponsored for.

    What you are really talking about is the benefit from having an I-485 filed.

    What I do see is missing is that O3 visa holders would still get no benefit.
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    How long and how probable .. ?

    The rule is now part of the EO 12866 : Pending EO 12866 Regulatory Review

    It still has lots of stages to go through...see the stages rule making process:

    http://regulationroom.org/learn-more.../#.UMiXC6zsJnM


    Do any one know how long it would take and how probable it is for the rule to become a law.

    Thank you in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girish989 View Post
    The rule is now part of the EO 12866 : Pending EO 12866 Regulatory Review

    It still has lots of stages to go through...see the stages rule making process:

    http://regulationroom.org/learn-more.../#.UMiXC6zsJnM


    Do any one know how long it would take and how probable it is for the rule to become a law.

    Thank you in advance.
    People throw out 90 days period. But if you look at federal register website, they are whole bunch of rules from 2009 or 2010 never made it past "Proposed Rule" stage. Besides agency head can extend review indefinitely. I am not sure why these lawyers (Oh and Shah Peerally) are so bullish.
    PD: 08/25/2008 EB2I

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    % of bills

    THank you for the response - do you by any chance know the % of bills that go into this stage and come out of it -

    I found this dashboard - http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/EO/eoDashboard.jsp
    I am not sure about how to read it though ..

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    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92

    Interesting that the rule link has been updated to now reflect 03/00/13.

    More importantly it now has the link for public comments, so they are absolutely involved in the rule making process now.

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    last time

    Hello Vishnu - last time - http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92

    they had a date of - 01/00/2012

    Do you know why it is different this time around ?

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    Here is another pebble in the pond. http://www.thehindu.com/news/interna...?homepage=true

    Feels like this article was written taking into account my situation in the last couple of months as going-to-be H-4 spouse. We are kind of mentally ready to bid adieu to the US if I have to be stuck in that position and then this comes along. Should I feel genuinely excited? Rhetorical question I guess.

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    DHS Announces Proposals to Attract and Retain Highly Skilled Immigrants
    http://www.dhs.gov/news/2014/05/06/d...led-immigrants
    Last edited by gten20; 05-06-2014 at 10:15 AM.

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    Hi Guys,
    It is not appropriate thread,you can move this.Good news for H4 folks DHS has changed rule and going to provide EAD for certain H4 folks.

    http://www.dhs.gov/news/2014/05/06/d...led-immigrants

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    Quote Originally Posted by helooo View Post
    Hi Guys,
    It is not appropriate thread,you can move this.Good news for H4 folks DHS has changed rule and going to provide EAD for certain H4 folks.

    http://www.dhs.gov/news/2014/05/06/d...led-immigrants
    It's a proposal... I believe. Hopefully, it will be enacted quickly.

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    Sounds like a very welcome news. Almost all backlogged GC applicants' spouses will benefit from this. Basically you need to have an approved 140. And the spouse will be eligible for an EAD even without you filing for 485.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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    For few of us, you are struggling with broken immigration process...
    Here is the Light at end of the tunnel..

    http://www.dhs.gov/news/2014/05/06/d...led-immigrants

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    Many people including myself will welcome this with wide arms.

    One dumb question - with EAD, can spouses work for any employer or does it have to be same employer of the primary I140 applicant? Looks like I need to catch up my EAD knowledge soon.

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    any employer cancer24 and as many employers at the same time as s/he wants.
    Quote Originally Posted by cancer24 View Post
    Many people including myself will welcome this with wide arms.

    One dumb question - with EAD, can spouses work for any employer or does it have to be same employer of the primary I140 applicant? Looks like I need to catch up my EAD knowledge soon.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

    Forum Glossary | Forum Rules and Guidelines | If your published post disappeared, check - Lies and Misinformation thread


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    Awesome! Hope it gets enacted soon.

    What happens next? Is the process same like any other bill or there are any quicker ways to put it in effect?

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    So this is not a bill. This is an administrative fix that appears to be within the rights of an administration to enact.

    They could've just gone ahead and done with it. But understandably they want to hear from American people. If there is very strong backlash and criticism they might not go ahead with this. My uneducated judgement is that this has 70-80% chance of getting through.

    Quote Originally Posted by cancer24 View Post
    Awesome! Hope it gets enacted soon.

    What happens next? Is the process same like any other bill or there are any quicker ways to put it in effect?
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

    Forum Glossary | Forum Rules and Guidelines | If your published post disappeared, check - Lies and Misinformation thread


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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer24 View Post
    Awesome! Hope it gets enacted soon.

    What happens next? Is the process same like any other bill or there are any quicker ways to put it in effect?

    It will follow rule making process, first publish the rule to federal register, wait for public comments (60 days?), review comments, revise rules, optionally extend review periods etc etc. Since they chose public comments, it should at least take 6 months. It can languish at any step in process and may never go anywhere. Just remember that, similar rule was published 2 years go, it didn't go anywhere. I would only believe it when it is implemented.
    PD: 08/25/2008 EB2I

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