DREAMERS - Deferred Action Process for Young People Who Are Low Enforcement Priority

[Spectator]

Ron Gotcher's one and only tweet during the duration of the AILA Conference.

Something Is going on. The USCIS Dir Got pulled off the plane And didn't speak Speculation is a big announcement coming

about 2 hours ago via Mobile Web

I doubt very much it will be about EB.

Still, we all like a good rumour.

[chengisk]

Ron Gotcher's one and only tweet during the duration of the AILA Conference.



I doubt very much it will be about EB.

Still, we all like a good rumour.

Guess it is got something to do with this.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...98e4b4e9aae1e3

[kd2008]

Guess it is got something to do with this.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...98e4b4e9aae1e3

Yup, Obama offered back door amnesty to illegal immigrants brought here as children. They will not be deported, they get EADs renewable every 2 years indefinitely.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012...ration.html?hp

We are such suckers to follow laws and wait our turn. We are all bunch of losers!

[openaccount]

WOW 800K that is a huge number USCIS will need lots of resources, this will have effect on regular EAD processing

[Spectator]

Yup, Obama offered back door amnesty to illegal immigrants brought here as children. They will not be deported, they get EADs renewable every 2 years indefinitely.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012...ration.html?hp

We are such suckers to follow laws and wait our turn. We are all bunch of losers!

Official Announcement from DHS.

USCIS can't process EADs in a timely manner already.

[kd2008]

Official Announcement from DHS.

USCIS can't process EADs in a timely manner already.

I bet they will process these cases free of charge and levy us all with exorbitant fees. And also endless wait to process our cases.

This just shows how capricious the system is. Here we were a few months ago basking in 1 May 2010 COD for EB2IC. And look at the mountain we have surmount now. I am pretty certain USCIS wont give a flying F about us now beyond taking our money and making our life hell.

[tatikonda]

Ron Gotcher's one and only tweet during the duration of the AILA Conference.



I doubt very much it will be about EB.

Still, we all like a good rumour.

It appears to be regarding DREAMERS... not EB2..
he has few twitt updates now ..

[PD2008AUG25]

It appears to be regarding DREAMERS... not EB2..
he has few twitt updates now ..

He is hoping something more...

Rumor is that there will be more announcements on other immigration subject very shortly.

https://twitter.com/ImmInfo1/status/213648748113432576

[openaccount]

Another tweet from Ron Gotcher

Rumor is that there will be more announcements on other immigration subject very shortly.

[ontheedge]

This definitely is a cause for concern from a USCIS processing POV. Can they handle this flood of EADs? They will need to seriously augment their resources.

I posted this query in the advocacy forum as well - what impact this may have on HR 3012 and similar bills?

[GhostWriter]

And these new numbers will not be added to their country of origin for the 7% cap as that is for EB + FB only !!. They should create a category for illegal immigration and assign it an annual quota. Then we will hope that if the numbers in the illegal category are not used we will get spillover to EB2.
Given the smart people on this forum Dept of Homeland Security will be surprised when we will start forecasting number of illegal immigrants every year

Yup, Obama offered back door amnesty to illegal immigrants brought here as children. They will not be deported, they get EADs renewable every 2 years indefinitely.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012...ration.html?hp

We are such suckers to follow laws and wait our turn. We are all bunch of losers!

[bieber]

Spec, the big announcement is amnesty for young people

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18460894

election year and cheap political tactic from administration, tomorrow it would be Romney 49% Obama 42%

I wonder why something like this won't need congress approval, after he loses obamacare in supreme court this month, this will be next in line

[ontheedge]

Bieber, I was surprised by this as well. How does this not have to be approved by the congress and the senate? This is basically fulfilling all the reforms listed in the DREAM ACT.

[GhostWriter]

"The decision is a political coup that undoubtedly will energise Mr Obama's sagging campaign. He is using his prosecutorial discretion to bypass Congress' inaction on immigration reform."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18460894

see the analysis section on right.

Bieber, I was surprised by this as well. How does this not have to be approved by the congress and the senate? This is basically fulfilling all the reforms listed in the DREAM ACT.

[qesehmk]

While it could very well be politically motivated, we on this forum don't engage in bringing down other immigrants - legal or illegal. So let's take it easy. As far as EB is concerned - this doesnt impact EB - at least not directly.

[immitime]

While it could very well be politically motivated, we on this forum don't engage in bringing down other immigrants - legal or illegal. So let's take it easy. As far as EB is concerned - this doesnt impact EB - at least not directly.

Q, that is true that this is politically motivated. But "Illegal immigrants" are not immigrants at all they are fence jumpers! This does impact EB if they are not increasing the staff to process EAD/AP..because around 80,000 more EAD sneaking in to process!.

[qesehmk]

immitime - yes they may be fence jumpers. So is it their fault that they are not bringing in smallpox or chickenpox infested blankets with them? Or not bringing guns with them? That's how the Native population was conquered 300 years back in North and Southern America (probably a couple of centuries earlier).

People are people and will seek better life. Its everybody's right to pursue good life. The national boundaries is becoming an artificial concept. Why do we get sucked into the debate of legal or illegal?

Besides those who are opposed to "illegal" immigration are the same people who are opposed to legal immigration as well. If all immigrants don't stand together - it becomes all the more difficult for all of them. Check out this poem written during holocaust in Germany. http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...rtin-Niemoller

But "Illegal immigrants" are not immigrants at all they are fence jumpers!

[pdfeb09]

Q, that is true that this is politically motivated. But "Illegal immigrants" are not immigrants at all they are fence jumpers! This does impact EB if they are not increasing the staff to process EAD/AP..because around 80,000 more EAD sneaking in to process!.

I know this is a touchy issue. I do not mean to offend or judge anyone. I also understand that this is a political maneuver by the President. However, I do think that we NEED NOT get riled up over this action.

Think about who is getting the benefit of this action. The young people who have been in this country for a long time and came here because their parents brought them here.

About us, we came here of our own discretion and, believe it or not, if worst comes worst, we do have a place to go back and am sure each one of us will do fine if we did have to go back.

Would the beneficiaries of today's action have that option?

Legal or illegal is defined by the laws created by senators and congressman anyways. We know what motivates them to do anything.

Lets not bicker about it.

Yes, we MAY be affected indirectly in terms of delayed processing, but this does not affect the number of EB visas available, nor does it cause any direct adverse effect.

This is the last I will comment on this topic. Just my thoughts. You are absolutely welcome to differ or agree.

[kd2008]

Now that my boiling blood is cooling down a bit, here are my thoughts:

This is an executive order. If the next President is Republican, this can be overturned with a snap of a finger. So if you were an illegal immigrant would you risk telling the government you are so? just for work authorization? and no path to citizenship? Some will, some won't.

Also, these poor schlubs will get a taste of what USCIS is really like.

[geterdone]

it's all about how much political clout you have or how much vote it can bring. it doesn't matter if legal immigration especially eb is broken, we are not a powerful group so nobody cares, some 80 yr od guy can put a hold and screw us.

They also can apply for a work permit that will be good for two years with no limits on how many times it can be renewed and if you are in eb2 you will get ead for 1 yr?????

[vizcard]

So given the potentially delayed processing time, should we be applying for Ead renewals sooner rather than later? I imagine the 90 day processing will potentially be a lot higher.

[soggadu]

immitime - yes they may be fence jumpers. So is it their fault that they are not bringing in smallpox or chickenpox infested blankets with them? Or not bringing guns with them? That's how the Native population was conquered 300 years back in North and Southern America (probably a couple of centuries earlier).

People are people and will seek better life. Its everybody's right to pursue good life. The national boundaries is becoming an artificial concept. Why do we get sucked into the debate of legal or illegal?

Besides those who are opposed to "illegal" immigration are the same people who are opposed to legal immigration as well. If all immigrants don't stand together - it becomes all the more difficult for all of them. Check out this poem written during holocaust in Germany. http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...rtin-Niemoller

I totally agree with Q... This country itself is formed on the basis of immigration... and we cannot blame certain country or race for whats happening...
illegal immigration is an animal instinct which is in all of us by nature... for ex: In my office i sit near a water dispenser unit and often see people going to the water dispenser which has water than the one's that needed to be replaced with water bottle... same thing... US has more oppurtunities so people come in by all means not caring what change they can make in their own country ( you and i are not an exception too though we took the legal path )...

My 2 cents... Live and Let Live...

[immitime]

immitime - yes they may be fence jumpers. So is it their fault that they are not bringing in smallpox or chickenpox infested blankets with them? Or not bringing guns with them? That's how the Native population was conquered 300 years back in North and Southern America (probably a couple of centuries earlier).

People are people and will seek better life. Its everybody's right to pursue good life. The national boundaries is becoming an artificial concept. Why do we get sucked into the debate of legal or illegal?

Besides those who are opposed to "illegal" immigration are the same people who are opposed to legal immigration as well. If all immigrants don't stand together - it becomes all the more difficult for all of them. Check out this poem written during holocaust in Germany. http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...rtin-Niemoller

Q, Logically this is ok, but no immigrants stand together nowadays.. there are groups inside groups. if you take EB immigration of India, there is a gap between EB1,EB2 & EB3is it not?? correct me If I am wrong and in a general way, Laws are made to control things, We cannot compare what happened in History and now!. Changes are beyond comparison!

[qesehmk]

Immitime - you are right. Certainly don't want to visit yesteryears' incidents. Also you are right that there are groups within groups. But at the end of the day - everybody's objective is to pursue a better life. That was the point I was trying to make.

We don't have to agree on everything. Just wanted to put my perspective across. And it was worth it given we got to see Soggadu's dancing Avatar after a loooong time!! Hope you are doing great Soggadu!

[soggadu]

Q, Logically this is ok, but no immigrants stand together nowadays.. there are groups inside groups. if you take EB immigration of India, there is a gap between EB1,EB2 & EB3is it not?? correct me If I am wrong and in a general way, Laws are made to control things, We cannot compare what happened in History and now!. Changes are beyond comparison!

immi bhai...little change of words... in the present world scenario... Laws are made to make profit ( either it be politics or anything else )... even many of our county police department issues more tickets for raising money to meet the needs in the disguise of maintaining law...

arey mein toh bolta hoon " Lag gayi Law and order ki"!!!!!