CRS report - Interesting report - don't forget to check page 16 - I am not sure if this will be any help to 3012 or not.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/RL32235.pdf
CRS report - Interesting report - don't forget to check page 16 - I am not sure if this will be any help to 3012 or not.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/RL32235.pdf
Interesting report - too bad nothing has happened since when it was published. Was also interesting to see the long history of fruitless attempts at reforming LPR immigration.Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
You are not alone. I am with you on this
Not to let this thread die,here is an update
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Hop...148163085.html
Various forum members have felt in the past that if this issue is laid to rest then the 3012 Bill can be tackled stand alone and maybe there might be some movement
I also had another story on my news alert which I did not upload earlier and how recent these items in this story are is unclear but it is dated April 13-
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...s-brian-bolduc
It does appear like Senator Grassley is not going to budge on this one and I am not sure where the momentum/impetus is going to come from to pass the 3012 Bill.
No mention/updates on Senate Floor/log recently
Hope springs eternal
Agenda for the weekend, compose two emails: one for Indian friends/college buddies/family and another for american friends asking them to sign the petition and forward to anyone who supports the bill. I guess its the least that can be done on this front. I feel there are probably a lot of people out there who have gotten their green cards and have no idea that such a bill is being considered. Although I already did send a similar mail before, I am going to target a wider audience this time around.
Does anyone know how do we support organizations like TechNet who are lobbying for the bill? Its pretty clear our Indian friends who owns desi sweatshops will not join for any such effort. I am sure there are right minded Indians out there owning business, or in politics etc. Are there any to mobilize those Indian owned firms who will help support TechNet?
I've been thinking about this. perhaps we can write to pro-immigrant journalists like Tom Friedman or Fareed Zakaria? Fareed is Indian too.
Oh, and FWIW, I checked ** after ages and earlier this month they claimed that they are still lobbying behind the scenes.
Fareed Zakaria is the son of Rafeeq Zakaria - ex-education minister of Maharashtra. He is a mumbaikar!
On the main topic - I think if you feel passionate about something then do it. People who throw their weight behind an issue - do not do so immediately. They will wait to see whether there is momentum behind it. And when you have momentum - people will come and join you without you asking them to (aka "Ramdev Joining Anna"-style).
So if you feel passionate about something just do it.
I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.
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Content of email that I am thinking of sending. Feel free to suggest changes. I have taken most of the material from manubhais thread on this issue.
I need one or two articles that highlight why this bill makes sense, any suggestions? Thanks.
"Hi All - I don't usually send mass emails but feel this one is worthy of your time. I am writing to you to ask you for your support for H.R. 3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act. The highlights of this bill are as follows:
1. This bill does NOT increase the number of immigrants allowed in the United States.
2. This bill eliminates an archaic provision of the current employment based immigration law that discriminates the amount of time an employment based applicant needs to wait based on his country of birth.
3. This bill will have no impact on the diversity of the immigrant pool (much less the diversity of the population of United States) because it only impacts a small percentage of the total immigrant pool entering United States.
4. This bill is a product of patriotic minds on both sides of the aisle working together to produce small, beneficial results for the US economy. It has thus passed the House of Representatives with a 96% approval - a rare feat in today's times.
It is currently stuck in the Senate because other provisions which actually increase the number of visas available for people from certain countries are being added to the bill. If you support this bill, I strongly urge you to write to your congressman/congresswoman requesting they put their weight behind it:
OpenCongress: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1857/
S. 1857 is HR 3012's companion bill in the Senate.
Please click on the link, and then click the "support" button that appears on the right side of your screen. Submit your address/contact information and then create a login. Note that an activation email will be sent to you and until you click on the link in the email, the letter WILL NOT BE SENT. This process should not take more than 5 minutes of your time.
I am attaching a letter at the bottom of this email that can be pasted on the opencongress page. It also gives more detail about what this bill entails. For those interested, the following articles highlight why this bill is needed:
Please forward this to anyone who you think would support this bill. Thanks for your time. "
Don't mention S.1857. It'll confuse the issue.
Is this for real, only 221 people have supported the bill on opencongress???
Sent out the email, but removed point 3 from the earlier email.
I'm not surprised. The focus has been HR3012. If that gets killed, then someone will bring up S1857 again.
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"Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it"
Guys, I hope you know what you are doing... HR3012 can only pass without much attention !!... You don't want to attract attention to this bill... even if means that it dies a slow, painful death. It will come up again later. Let behind the scenes lobby do its thing.
Do you realize what will Lou Dobbs and everyone else who are against immigration will do... if this story by Fareed Zakaria catches on?
I urge you guys not to do go to the general media. This story should remain within pro-immigration circles only. It is best for all of us.
Last edited by mniwas; 04-24-2012 at 01:08 PM. Reason: Grammar
Grassley's latest "concern". ( Look in comments section for some funny comments)
Chuck Grassley: Were the Secret Service prostitutes Russian spies?
Just curious, which was the last non-trivial immigration bill passed?
I don't know if it was the last but it was significant - AC21.
Wow, 12 years ago. It's amazing that Congress is so feckless that they've been unable to fix high-skilled immigration since then - in good economic times and in bad, under Reps and Dems, etc.
A new bill was introduced on 5/15/2012 by U.S. Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary’s Immigration, Refugees, and Border Security Subcommittee.
Sen. John Cornyn's Website link for the new bill:
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/public/...8-c5df1c4313a4
Sen. John Cornyn's Website link for the STAR Act:
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/public/...8-c5df1c4313a4
STAR Act (PDF):
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/public/...f-535ae95f39ed
Last edited by A_Tech_Softie; 05-16-2012 at 06:39 PM. Reason: Date specified
From http://articles.economictimes.indiat...mporary-visas:
That's such a crock of shit. I think the Democrats are actually as bad as the Republicans when it comes to immigration reform. Cherry-picking "certain high-qualified workers" will clearly benefit the nation the most instead of some random DREAMers or the diversity visa recipients. And everyone knows that CIR is NOT going to happen, so nothing happens and the status quo stays as it does with everything else these days. There's more damn Irish in this country than in the whole of Irleand, and yet they are eligible for diversity visas.A Senate Democratic aide said Democrats prefer to address the high-tech visa question in the larger context of immigration reform "rather than cherry-pick certain workers."
Nobody is willing to admit it, but this is nothing but racism in another form. It probably doesn't help that Indians/Chinese don't 'integrate' as easily as Europeans.
Another Bill to be introduced with H.R 3012 provisions
From the Richmond Times
"WASHINGTON, D.C. --
In an unlikely alliance, Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., will today join with tea-party favorite Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., in introducing legislation to build on the Jobs Act signed into law earlier this year.
Joined by Sens. Christopher Coons, D-Del., and Jerry Moran, R-Kan., Warner and Rubio are rolling out the Startup Act 2.0, aimed at helping new businesses add to their payrolls and jump-start the still-ailing economy.
"Eighty percent of all the new jobs that have been created in the last 20 years have been created by new businesses," Warner said Monday in a phone interview.
While the startups bill passed earlier this year eased access to capital for fledgling businesses, the new bill would take a multipronged approach to helping them gain access to talent.
The legislation's core component is the creation of two new visas for legal immigrants: an "entrepreneur's visa" to allow immigrants creating jobs to stay put and a "STEM visa" for U.S.-educated foreign students who graduate with a master's or Ph.D. in science, technology, engineering or mathematics.
"You read about Microsoft moving thousands of research jobs to China and India because they can't hire enough Americans in those fields," Warner said. "Why would we go out and train some of the world's best and brightest and then send them home if we can't fill those jobs with Americans? … This is to keep these jobs here."
The bill also would eliminate the per-country caps for employment-based immigrant visas.
A few of its other provisions are:
making permanent the exemption of capital-gains taxes on the sale of certain small-business stock held for at least five years;
creating a targeted research and development tax credit for businesses less than five years old and with less than $5 million in annual receipts;
using existing federal funding to support taxpayer-funded university initiatives designed to bring research to the marketplace more quickly;
requiring all government agencies to conduct a cost-benefit analysis of all proposed rules and regulations with an economic impact of $100 million or more."
I guess this bill does not increase family based GCs so should be more palatable to republicans - but less so to democrats?
To Randomax
I was just practising due diligence and was reporting what had happened yesterday.The Bill is a mixture of features of 2 already existing Bills S.1866 (11/15/11) also known as the AGREE Act and S.1965 (12/8/2011) also known as the Start Up Act 0f 2011. These Bills have not made much headway and the 4 principal Senators involved in this Bill were also primary sponsors of the previous legislations. In fairness S.1965 did get a hearing in March but has not been taken up by Committee or reported. Also because it involves so many issues it may have to go through additional committees including judiciary before being placed on the Calendar. I think the 3012 provisions got included as these were part of the AGREE Act. The main problem with the new Bill is that it incorporates the provisions from S.1965 for creating 2 new visa categories for STEM graduates (55000 annually) and Entreprenuers (75000 annually) for a total additonal visa count of 130000 annually. This may be the main contentious issue as there are other Bills which have no increase in total immigration which are also struggling to make headway.
Thanks for the explanation GS1968, that makes sense.
Bill Bill everywhere but nothing seems to be passing.
Our H.R. 3012 story is a triangular story... from the news which is coming out for the past several months.
1. Sen.Grassley's Hold
2. Sen.Schumer's intervention to add E-3 propsal.. backed by Sen Brown
3. Sen.Harry Reid is not interested to pass any immigration bill without his DREAM Act.
if you ask Sen.Chuck Schumer he would say, all because of sen.Grassley's hold.
if you ask Sen.Grassley. he would say, I am ready to lift the hold provided Sen.Schumer is not adding any E-3 provision to the bill. Sen.Brown already given up and do not know what to do now.
if you ask Sen.Harry Reid. he will always say COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE!
We should wait for the fall. to know the final out come of this Great Political football results.
Still keeping positive vibes about our H.R.3012. and strongly believe that it will be law by end of this year!
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