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    From Irish Emigrant:


    E-3 momentum builds despite Grassley stalling

    By Brian Fitzpatrick


    Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), whose stalling of HR3012 has also placed Irish visa efforts on hold.Momentum has built up behind the proposed E-3 visa which would allow 10,000 Irish per annum to come and work legally in the US, after Senator Charles Schumer (D-New York) Tuesday hotlined Bill S.1983 in the Senate, officially attaching it to Bipartisan Bill HR3012, the Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act.

    However, Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), is for now continuing to block HR3012, as he did when it passed the House 389-15 in November, and has placed the legislation on hold before it can go before the Senate. Bills may be stalled by any senator, and when Grassley may relent remains unclear. His issue is thought to be solely with HR3012 and not the Irish E-3, and he is currently negotiating with the bill’s supporters on broader reforms he has long sought for employer-sponsored visas, such as the H1B.

    “I have concerns about the impact of this bill on future immigration flows, and am concerned that it does nothing to better protect Americans at home who seek high-skilled jobs during this time of record-high unemployment,” Grassley said after HR3012 initially passed the House.

    HR3012 is aimed at eliminating country-based caps on the number of employment visas issued annually, and boosting similar limits for immigrants sponsored by a spouse or relative currently in the US. It has been heavily supported by US high-tech companies keen to resolve the huge backlogs they face when trying to secure visas for skilled workers from abroad, particularly India and China. Ireland has an ally in these high-tech lobbyists, who are simply keen to see their own problems solved and have to date raised no objections to any Irish-specific bill.

    Amendments

    Co-sponsored by Senator Pat Leahy (D-Vermont) and Senator Richard Durbin (D-Illinois), Schumer’s bill – first devised as a suggested set of amendments to HR3012 - was introduced after the initial Grassley delay, and would create a legal channel for immigration for those still in Ireland.

    The amendments asked for are modeled on the Australian reciprocal E-3 visa, which requires that applicants have a job offer for a specialty occupation in the US. The visas are for two years and can be renewed; however, they are temporary non-immigrant work visas, not green cards. The E-3 category already includes provisions for admission of dependents and employment authorization for spouses.

    Senator Schumer had initially included concessions for the undocumented which would have allowed them to return home and re-apply for the new visas, without being subject to barring orders from the US. However, lobbying efforts on these waivers are understood to have come up against a Republican brick wall, and in a move that will dismay many in the undocumented community, these have now been removed in the hope that so-called administrative waivers can be introduced at a later date, if the bill is passed.

    The separate, standalone Irish Immigration Reform and Encouragement (IRE) Act (S.2005), introduced before Christmas by Senator Scott Brown (R-Massachusetts) and co-sponsored by Senator Mark Kirk (R-Illinois), aims to add the Irish citizens directly to the E-3 visa program.

    It would provide the same number of visas as the Schumer bill, but as it never contained any waivers for the undocumented, it is expected that those inclined to co-sign the Brown bill will now back the more advanced Schumer bill, as they are now effectively identical.

    Support

    Some 53 Democratic Senators have pledged support to the Schumer bill so far, with as many as eight Republicans – including Brown - said to be in favor. If this is the case, it would mean the bill would hit the crucial filibuster-proof number. Irish efforts received another boost of late when Illinois Congressman Luis Gutiérrez, considered one of the strongest voices on immigration reform in the country, indicated he will weigh in behind the push.

    Meetings have been held on Capitol Hill over the past few weeks between the Irish Embassy, representatives of Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform (ILIR) and the Chicago Celts for Immigration Reform, and the staffers of numerous senators, in the hope of gaining support across party lines. Most recently, efforts have focused on gaining the crucial backing of Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky).

    Efforts have also focused on securing a statement of support from the Obama administration. Reciprocity on the E-3 visas has been guaranteed by the Irish government, although this is almost a moot point given the employment situation there.

    If a solution to Grassley’s hold can be found, should the bill pass the Senate it will return to the House for final approval, but this is considered almost a fait accompli, given the majority with which HR3012 has already passed.

    Benefits

    “There is nothing unusual about the extension of particular immigration benefits to a particular country,” the ILIR said in a circulated advocacy document, responding to the idea that no bill should benefit the Irish ahead of others.

    “HR 3012 provides very specific assistance to four nationalities - Indians, Chinese born in the PRC, Filipinos and Mexicans, to the detriment of other groups.”

    “The time is now to pass this common-sense bill,” Senator Schumer told Irish Central.

    “The underlying bill passed the Republican House with overwhelming bi-partisan support – and the Irish E-3 visa also has support from both parties - so there is no reason not to pass this bill.”

    This common sense approach was echoed by Billy Lawless of the Chicago Celts for Immigration Reform, who said that the effort has unified the Irish groups in a manner that is good to see.

    “We’re really happy with how it’s going,” he told The Irish Emigrant. “The work put in by the likes of ILIR but also more unsung heroes like the Irish Apostolate and people like Dan Dennehy at the Ancient Order of Hibernians has been crucial. We’ve all come together and now we’re trying to get the two sides of the US political divide to come together, too.”

  2. #1227
    Interesting observations from that article
    His issue is thought to be solely with HR3012 and not the Irish E-3, and he is currently negotiating with the bill’s supporters on broader reforms he has long sought for employer-sponsored visas, such as the H1B.
    When it comes to the opposition, Irish like to think Grassley opposes HR 3012 component only.

    If a solution to Grassley’s hold can be found, should the bill pass the Senate it will return to the House for final approval, but this is considered almost a fait accompli, given the majority with which HR3012 has already passed.
    When it comes to support in house, Irish has no problem using the support HR 3012 gained in the house and speculating E3 component will get the same support in the house.

    If both of these assumptions were correct, why wouldn't they introduce a standalone bill in house for E3 ( where they are sure to get overwhelming support) and move that bill to senate where they will not face a hurdle ( since Uncle G has opposition to HR 3012 component only) !

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    I think its because HR3012 already has the press, popularity and support

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    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    My sources in the know tell me, the bill limbo may be resolved one way or the other in next couple of weeks. NO indication if positively or negatively, w/ or w/o the E-3 amendment or some other compromise. Keep your fingers crossed.

    Please, please, please, call, email, contact your Senators now and ask them to support HR 3012!!!!
    kd, care to shed a little bit more light on this? (Even just a tiny bit of light ). [By the way, not only did I contact my senators, I also visited one of my senators' office.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by essenel View Post
    kd, care to shed a little bit more light on this? (Even just a tiny bit of light ). [By the way, not only did I contact my senators, I also visited one of my senators' office.]
    Thank you. It is great that you visited the office. Please urge everybody you know to contact them and visit them to support the bill.

    Politics can be a dirty game. Everybody wants their agenda to succeed, their amendments to succeed. So various lobbyists jockey for favors and advantages all the time. That is what makes everything uncertain until the very last moment. Nobody knows anything. That is where things stand right now. Nobody knows anything.

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    demand data released.. checkout.. good news..

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiotic View Post
    demand data released.. checkout.. good news..
    Good news for who?

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    March bulletion is also out....dates moved till 1MAY2010
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    Support from a republican..that sounds encouraging. Hope we get the required 60 votes

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-Se...138938264.html

    "The Republican Senator has said it is possible it will pass as soon as this week."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    Thank you. It is great that you visited the office. Please urge everybody you know to contact them and visit them to support the bill.

    Politics can be a dirty game. Everybody wants their agenda to succeed, their amendments to succeed. So various lobbyists jockey for favors and advantages all the time. That is what makes everything uncertain until the very last moment. Nobody knows anything. That is where things stand right now. Nobody knows anything.
    kd, I understand.....

    One more thing - if you already know that both your senators support the bill, should you still send out emails/calls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by imviswa View Post
    Support from a republican..that sounds encouraging. Hope we get the required 60 votes

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-Se...138938264.html

    "The Republican Senator has said it is possible it will pass as soon as this week."
    This is a kind of relief, but, If E-3 amendment is attached to H.R. 3012, it should go back to congress for voting again, in the house any thing can happen, even if this bill passes Senate with unanimous consent as they claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by essenel View Post
    kd, I understand.....

    One more thing - if you already know that both your senators support the bill, should you still send out emails/calls?
    essenel - The answer to your question is "Absolutely Yes". Till the time a senator's vote is not cast, he has the right to change his stance because of whatever new information is thrown his way.

    As kd and imdeng have already pointed out, writing hand written letters has a huge impact. Not many people do this, esp. those who are involved in a group. People with individual issues might send handwritten letters, but group folks usually copy+paste+print the same content. If we write handwritten ones, we stand a better chance of getting noticed.

    Again, making the 20 second calls is also hugely important.

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    Content could be used from here or from imdeng's petition:

    http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...orting-HR-3012

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    Quote Originally Posted by manubhai View Post
    essenel - The answer to your question is "Absolutely Yes". Till the time a senator's vote is not cast, he has the right to change his stance because of whatever new information is thrown his way.

    As kd and imdeng have already pointed out, writing hand written letters has a huge impact. Not many people do this, esp. those who are involved in a group. People with individual issues might send handwritten letters, but group folks usually copy+paste+print the same content. If we write handwritten ones, we stand a better chance of getting noticed.

    Again, making the 20 second calls is also hugely important.
    Manubhai, thanks for the info. I will make this an action item for myself to send letters and make the calls.

    Another question - when we make the calls, should we be mentioning the senate version of the bill or HR 3012?
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    To Essenel
    Your information conflicts with these news stories
    http://www.boston.com/Boston/politic...nBN/index.html

    and

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-Se...138938264.html

    I don't know which story to believe.On the one hand it appears like a deal is near while the letter from Sen.Grassley seems to suggest that his insistence on H-1b/L-1 reforms seems firm

    Only time will tell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    To Essenel
    Your information conflicts with these news stories
    http://www.boston.com/Boston/politic...nBN/index.html

    and

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-Se...138938264.html

    I don't know which story to believe.On the one hand it appears like a deal is near while the letter from Sen.Grassley seems to suggest that his insistence on H-1b/L-1 reforms seems firm

    Only time will tell!
    Exactly, and the result of all these can be something different, and my friend unfortunately, that is called POLITRICKS! in a DEMOCRAZY. Praying and sending Hand written letters at least once in a week to Senators. Hope this will be a happy ending!

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    Sorry to quote an anti-immigrant, but can't help it

    Roy Beck, president of NumbersUSA, a Washington-area group that favors curbing immigration, argues that the proposals like Brown’s are part of a pattern of discrimination, favoring immigrants from white, English-speaking nations.They’re basically upset because they don’t have the special privileges that they once had,” Beck said. “They have to share those privileges with Latinos and Africans and Asians.”

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    Looks like either way we will come to know the climax of this episode(HR3012,E3...) in next 10days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    To Essenel
    Your information conflicts with these news stories
    http://www.boston.com/Boston/politic...nBN/index.html

    and

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-Se...138938264.html

    I don't know which story to believe.On the one hand it appears like a deal is near while the letter from Sen.Grassley seems to suggest that his insistence on H-1b/L-1 reforms seems firm

    Only time will tell!
    gs, which information are you talking about? In any case, it's all the more reason to write those letter and make those calls...
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    Quote Originally Posted by essenel View Post
    Manubhai, thanks for the info. I will make this an action item for myself to send letters and make the calls.

    Another question - when we make the calls, should we be mentioning the senate version of the bill or HR 3012?
    I - or anyone on this forum - is not qualified to give you the absolute best answer for that. It all depends on whether THIS senator has heard more of 3012 or S1857 or the Irish bill from Schumer or Scott and what their individual stances are.

    To pick one, I'd pick HR3012... simply because it passed the house and is supposedly/arguably "famous". I'm sure others will have different opinions.

    I hope more people are emailing, writing, and calling. This includes those who've recently become current but wont be getting the GC soon purely because of country based quotas. Hopefully, the satisfaction of getting EAD+AP wont lull them into complacency and they'll still remember that these efforts directly help them just as much as those who aren't current yet.

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    My apologies-I was actually replying to Lalaji's information on Senator Grassley's letter to the President

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    If we read Gr(ass)ley's letter to Obama, it is clear that he is more interested in his H1B amendments than the HR3012 and how that is harmful. I did not find anything that actually tells that HR3012 (its contents) causes a damage to the American workers. He is only explaining the case of one US electrical engineer and trying to get through his agenda by urging President. On the politricks side, I feel as things are cooking behind doors and senate is probably getting ready for the cloture, Ass uncle feels helpless and is trying to do everything possible in these conditions. That full letter sounds like a desperate but futile exercise to me.

    Anyways hoping for the best and doing all action items without fail. Let the good things happen to all of us!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lalaji View Post
    Grassley letter to Obama on Feb 7th:

    http://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/...eID_1502=38933
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    update from OH law firm:

    Boston Globe Reports Two Republican Senators, Scott Brown and Chuck Grassley, Actively Negotiating for Compromise Involving H.R. 3012 & Irish E-3 Visa

    As reported earlier, Irish community has been pushing hard Senator Scott Brown of Masschusetts to persuade Sen. Chuck Grassley as fellow Republicans. The chip which is used by the Irish community is threat to the reelection chance for Sen. Brown in November in the Irish dominating State of Massachusetts, which is also considered a threat to the Republican party itself. Accordingly, Chuck Grassley should also feel pressure at this point. Details are not known as to the negotiation and compromise, but pressures are mounting at this time. Interesting to watch how the negotiation will unfold.

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    Uncle G won't care whether Senator Brown is re-elected or not. He does't care about anybody/anything else. If he cared about these, would he block a bill sponsor by house republicans ? All he cares about is his opportunity to bring focus on himself by blocking bills whether it is HR 3012, $1 coin bill or whatever that comes his way.

    Guess what Brown will be negotiating ? H1B provisions as demanded by Grassley. That won't go anywhere either.

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