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Thread: Discussion of Bills that remove the Per Country Limits - H.R.3012, H,R. 213

  1. #1101
    CAn anyone of you enlighten me...what does this mean( sorry for me being so dumb )

    Quote Originally Posted by jackbrown_890 View Post
    It was reported to be placed on the calendar

  2. #1102
    Quote Originally Posted by mesan123 View Post
    CAn anyone of you enlighten me...what does this mean( sorry for me being so dumb )
    Usually if it is placed in the calendar means it will come to the floor for voting, remember in the house, they placed in the calender as per today's agenda the voting will be on by 5:30 pm, no idea whether the bill will comeup for voting today! Just wait until 7:30 pm this evening. Hoping for the best.

  3. #1103
    So apparently H.R. 3012 was read a second time today (I got this link off of **):

    http://gov.mtopgroup.com/ref/art1/senate-live.htm

    The following bills were read en bloc for a second time:
    H.R. 440 (To provide for the establishment of the Special Envoy to Promote Religious Freedom of Religious Minorities in the Near East and South Central Asia).
    H.R. 3012 (Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011).
    The bills were read for a second time. Further readings were objected to and the bills were placed on the calendar.

    What does this mean?
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  4. #1104
    Update from oh law firm:

    01/23/2012: H.R. 3012 Update in the U.S. Senate

    The Senate convened today. In the today's session, H.R. 3012 (Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011) was read for a second time. Further readings were objected to and the bill was placed on the calendar. In a way way, it is a positive news to see resolution of this bill soon. It is interesting to see whether Sen. Harry Reid, Majority Leader, will introduce Motion for Cloture to break the potential filibuster by Senator Chuck Grassley.

  5. #1105
    Thank you for the reply...

    Quote Originally Posted by immitime View Post
    Usually if it is placed in the calendar means it will come to the floor for voting, remember in the house, they placed in the calender as per today's agenda the voting will be on by 5:30 pm, no idea whether the bill will comeup for voting today! Just wait until 7:30 pm this evening. Hoping for the best.

  6. #1106
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    Senate Floor Wrap Up for Monday, January 23, 2012

    Completed the Rule 14 process of H.R.3012, Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011


    http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/01/...nuary-23-2012/
    Does any one know what - 'Completed the Rule 14' process means ?

  7. #1107
    yup, there is a long list of legislations on general orders calendar, i hope 3012 will move on the floor soon..,,i m not sure where is ** s advocacy dept. doing to push 3012,.we still need more grassroots advocacy efforts from immigration community.
    Senate passed only 90 bills total in 2011 (lowest since 1995) and this is n election year,,,so this year also senate probably won't be too active...
    .it seems like the movement in Eb2 has slowed down our push for this bill,,, come on people i request you not to leave the push for 3012 right now even though if you are current or if you have already received EAD/GC etc...lets have another round of emails/letters to senators

    Thank you,
    Last edited by jackbrown_890; 01-23-2012 at 07:52 PM.

  8. #1108
    Quote Originally Posted by girish989 View Post
    Does any one know what - 'Completed the Rule 14' process means ?
    It means, they were able to avoid the bill from going to a subcommittee (where it would have stalled or would have been dead) and now it is directly placed on senate calendar.
    There is no update on the debate/vote yet. let s hope it will happen this week and will pass without any amendments

  9. #1109
    RIN 1615-AB92 - rule for giving EAD to H4 spouses( of H1 primaries with approved i-140) seems to be updated.
    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92

    The NPRM date was 03/00/2012 earlier.Now it has been updated to 01/00/2012.
    Does anyone know what it means?

  10. #1110
    and it says that it is related to RIN 1615-ZB03 . I could not find any reference to 1615-ZB03. What is this RIN 1615-ZB03 about?

  11. #1111
    Quote Originally Posted by sweety0202 View Post
    RIN 1615-AB92 - rule for giving EAD to H4 spouses( of H1 primaries with approved i-140) seems to be updated.
    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92

    The NPRM date was 03/00/2012 earlier.Now it has been updated to 01/00/2012.
    Does anyone know what it means?
    oh law reported this news yesterday,,,also wrote "It appears there is no change for this plan and may be initiate the rule-making process soon"
    there are 2 rules with the same RIN - number and one was updated on 01/00/2012 and other on 03/00/2012. I don't understand the date format and what does "00" mean.
    Last edited by jackbrown_890; 01-24-2012 at 07:15 AM.

  12. #1112

    3012 update

    on Thomas under congressional actions it has been updates as follow:
    1/23/2012:
    Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 293.

    and under general orders: you can find this bill on page 46
    Last edited by jackbrown_890; 01-24-2012 at 07:19 AM.

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    I pray to god that HR3012 be taken up today, after seeing that there are so many bills on general order "Read the second time and placed on the calendar" and still waiting for the vote. It may be the lawmaking priorities (advocacy/lobbying/majority's agenda) or the rift between both parties in House and Senate.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CCAL-11...2012-01-24.pdf

  14. #1114
    Quote Originally Posted by jackbrown_890 View Post
    oh law reported this news yesterday,,,also wrote "It appears there is no change for this plan and may be initiate the rule-making process soon"
    there are 2 rules with the same RIN - number and one was updated on 01/00/2012 and other on 03/00/2012. I don't understand the date format and what does "00" mean.
    01/00/2012 ...meaning any day during Jan 2012

  15. #1115
    Quote Originally Posted by pakkpk View Post
    I pray to god that HR3012 be taken up today, after seeing that there are so many bills on general order "Read the second time and placed on the calendar" and still waiting for the vote. It may be the lawmaking priorities (advocacy/lobbying/majority's agenda) or the rift between both parties in House and Senate.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CCAL-11...2012-01-24.pdf
    Prayers and wiriting to your senators directly through printed letters makes lot of difference. H.R.3012 is almost at the end of the legislative process. only thing we need to know is whether Grass Uncle will go for a filli buster or not? and if it is .. then whether Sen.Majority leader is ready for a cloture vote appointment?, or if any amendment with mutual agreement with GUncle. so that this can be passed without much issues,. Legislative process takes its own sweet time. But We should contact our Senators and make them aware of this issue.

  16. #1116
    Quote Originally Posted by immitime View Post
    01/00/2012 ...meaning any day during Jan 2012
    if it is Jan 2012, I think it should be posted in Federal Register in Jan 2012. But I see the column for FR entry as NO.
    and after FR entry, a RIN gets almost a month of comment period. Nothing about comment period is mentioned here too.
    Hope things move. this would be a good rule if it becomes final.

  17. #1117
    sweety

    Previously during June 2011 the date was 03/00/2012. I think they are now ready with the Notice to publish in the Federal Register for 60 days comment period. My gut feeling says the whole process would be get done by March 2012.

  18. #1118
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    sweety

    Previously during June 2011 the date was 03/00/2012. I think they are now ready with the Notice to publish in the Federal Register for 60 days comment period. My gut feeling says the whole process would be get done by March 2012.
    Hope your words come true Kanmani
    But when I looked at previous RINs which became final via the NPRM route, theres almost 1 year gap b/w NPRM comment end period and Final Rule.
    Considering CO's intention to give EAD to as many ppl as possible, I agree with you. This might - just might - be a rule soon.

  19. #1119
    Quote Originally Posted by sweety0202 View Post
    Hope your words come true Kanmani
    But when I looked at previous RINs which became final via the NPRM route, theres almost 1 year gap b/w NPRM comment end period and Final Rule.
    Considering CO's intention to give EAD to as many ppl as possible, I agree with you. This might - just might - be a rule soon.
    They had the same kind of RIN back in 2009 to apply for I-485 without the date being current. GUncle wrote a letter to Mr.Mayarkoas, aslo his tails as officers in USCIS leaked out the internal memo to the media, and that plan is in the dust bin. Wishing all the best to this plan. Heads should roll from USCIS there are lot of hard core conservative right wing people(as officers) waiting to chop any immigrant at any point of time, they just want a simple reason to do that, Denials, RFE's are most common nowadays, even at the stage of I-485 adjustment of status, lot of genuine cases are suffering.

  20. #1120
    Whether this EAD is equivalent to EAD filing during 485? Please throw some light...

  21. #1121
    Quote Originally Posted by lalaji View Post
    Whether this EAD is equivalent to EAD filing during 485? Please throw some light...
    NOPE

    This EAD is equivalent to L2 EAD.
    I-485 EAD nowadays is a combo with Advance Parole ( mini GC)

  22. #1122
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    sweety

    Previously during June 2011 the date was 03/00/2012. I think they are now ready with the Notice to publish in the Federal Register for 60 days comment period. My gut feeling says the whole process would be get done by March 2012.

    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92
    The NPRM is still 03/00/2012 for the rule .Am I missing something?

  23. #1123
    oh no - looks like it has been changed back to March...I most certainly say 01/00/2012 till about 30 mins ago...

  24. #1124
    Quote Originally Posted by vishnu View Post
    oh no - looks like it has been changed back to March...I most certainly say 01/00/2012 till about 30 mins ago...
    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92

    201104 - this has 03/00/2012.

    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92
    201110 - this has 01/00/2012.

    Latest has 01/00/2012.

  25. #1125
    Quote Originally Posted by sweety0202 View Post
    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92

    201104 - this has 03/00/2012.

    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92
    201110 - this has 01/00/2012.

    Latest has 01/00/2012.

    Hmmm........ Interesting ....So there are only 6 days left to publish?
    Very happy to hear that . But this shouldn't be a compromise to H.R.3012

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