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  1. #551

    Thumbs up Get ready for the real deal

    Folks... Time to prepare your list to make the 20 second calls to the senators.

    Celebrate... But don't forget that NOTHING HAS BEEN ACHIEVED YET.


    That said, congratulations for the battle victory! War is still ahead!

  2. #552
    Looks like house passed it with >96% majority!!! Lets hope we get the same support in Senate.

  3. #553
    Now do you agree he is not bluffing to get money...?

    If possible contribute so that we can see same kind of flying colors in Senate....in house we got YEAs 389 and NAYs 15....which is more than 96%...

    Quote Originally Posted by belmontboy View Post
    I believe Aman is bluffing. 90% sounds too good to be true. IMHO its just to encourage people to contribute. These days no issue has such unanimous support, let alone for HR 3012
    Last edited by kwho32; 11-29-2011 at 07:01 PM.

  4. #554
    Only 2 democrats opposed it. This bodes well for the Senate.

  5. #555
    Congratulations 3012 supporters.

  6. #556
    Congrats to all... May GOD Bless.. to move this bill in senate as smooth as in Congress and become The Law of the Land before Year 2012 .. that can be a great New Year Gift to long long.............awaiting people in the EB Queue.

    Thanks to all who is continously working to have this bill passed

    Woooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

  7. #557
    Gr8, its passed house.

    Trackitt is down. Looks like its got bombarded with the users

  8. #558
    Good the bill passed yipee still senate ahead ......kanmani or someone can you enlighten me behen. how the bill will help us. i know it will remove the per country limit. how will the movement be more if the bill passes. and what are chances for the bill to pass in senate and when will it be brought for voting in senate?
    Last edited by mesan123; 11-29-2011 at 07:16 PM.

  9. #559
    Quote Originally Posted by mesan123 View Post
    Good the bill passed......kanmani can you enlighten me behen. how the bill will help us. i know it will remove the per country limit. how will the movement be more if the bill passes.
    if this bill becomes a law..EB 2/3 I/C will get around 34000 total visa for first year and 36000 the next two years and after that there will not be I/C/ROW for EB2/3. Whoever applies first will get d visa first and thus it will be fair to everyone

  10. #560
    Tnx for the answer..so howlong will the wait be for people in 2010/2011 in EB2 if the bill passes senate.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackbrown_890 View Post
    if this bill becomes a law..EB 2/3 I/C will get around 34000 total visa for first year and 36000 the next two years and after that there will not be I/C/ROW for EB2/3. Whoever applies first will get d visa first and thus it will be fair to everyone

  11. #561
    Guys,

    I am new here. I see some folks like manubhai etc put forward some great suggestions.
    However, is it not better that we coordinate things with the main organization (which cannot be named here) and pool our efforts and resources, so that we are not working at cross purposes?

    Just a thought - there may be other issues I am not aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbrown_890 View Post
    if this bill becomes a law..EB 2/3 I/C will get around 34000 total visa for first year and 36000 the next two years and after that there will not be I/C/ROW for EB2/3. Whoever applies first will get d visa first and thus it will be fair to everyone
    it'll take SOFAD for FY12 back up to the 35K number + buffer if CO wants it. We could realistically see Dec 2008 getting current.

  13. #563
    Ok...will wait for ur reply...I was here for last few days...was just watching the thread everyday...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    mesan welcome back

    little busy now . will pm you later

  14. #564
    Quote Originally Posted by mesan123 View Post
    Tnx for the answer..so howlong will the wait be for people in 2010/2011 in EB2 if the bill passes senate.
    There were some calcs earlier in the thread separately by Spec and me. A move in FY2012 to Sep 2009, if I remember correctly.
    NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|

  15. #565
    Quote Originally Posted by mesan123 View Post
    Tnx for the answer..so howlong will the wait be for people in 2010/2011 in EB2 if the bill passes senate.
    My best conservative guess if the bill become law by the end of next month: it will reach dec 08 by the end of fiscal year 2012. Probably early Jan 2009 by the end of fiscal year 2013 and probably mid to late 2010 by the end of fiscal year 2014. This also depends on the Spillover we get for next 3 years..
    plus it also depends on other unknown factors like how much spillover will I/C and even other countries will get since few other countries will be not be current after a year or two..
    there r few better calculations done on dat here,,please check them for better understanding

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    Quote Originally Posted by helpful_leo View Post
    Guys,

    I am new here. I see some folks like manubhai etc put forward some great suggestions.
    However, is it not better that we coordinate things with the main organization (which cannot be named here) and pool our efforts and resources, so that we are not working at cross purposes?

    Just a thought - there may be other issues I am not aware of.
    Different purposes. At the end of the day we all follow **'s action items because they are clear and concise. Many of us have met with congressmen/senators. Most of us have written letters, made calls, spread the word and recruited others, all of which are equally effective whether performed individually or as a part of **.

    Also, this forum believes in transparency, so we focus on calculating the results of the legislation, trying to figure out what the next steps are, etc in an open manner. Rest assured, we're not working at cross purposes with **.
    NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|

  17. #567
    So as everyone said our next stop is senate:I think Here is something we should focus on:
    The rules of procedure in the Senate differ to a large extent from those in the House. The Senate relies heavily on the practice of obtaining unanimous consent for actions to be taken. For example, at the time that a bill is reported, the Majority Leader may ask unanimous consent for the immediate consideration of the bill. If the bill is of a noncontroversial nature and there is no objection, the Senate may pass the bill with little or no debate and with only a brief explanation of its purpose and effect.
    Few people have already said here about contacting Reid: my point is the same if we all pick a week and start calling senate members of our region and Harry Reid and ask Reid to ask for unanimous consent for the immediate consideration of the bill at the time of the bill s reported and if it passes, if i am not wrong, it will save us long wait of it going to a committee and subcommittee etc...
    so let me know what you think and if you know more about this process of asking for unanimous consent at the time that bill is reported.
    Last edited by jackbrown_890; 11-29-2011 at 08:01 PM.

  18. #568
    Kudos to all the people who contributed to this effort!! This will be a great step not just for EB2IC but most importantly for EB3IC when finally cleared by senate.


    Quote Originally Posted by scion78 View Post
    H.R. 3012 - Passed!
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  19. #569
    Thanks Pedro. That is helpful.

    Look forward to some good discussions here on how to get this thru the Senate.

    The fact that Democrats so overwhelmingly supported this in the House is good news, confirming their sensitivity to Hispanic opinion.

  20. #570

    Bill passed

    This is amazing. Does it have impact on priority date predictions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizcard View Post
    it'll take SOFAD for FY12 back up to the 35K number + buffer if CO wants it. We could realistically see Dec 2008 getting current.
    That's very very conservative estimate IMHO.

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    Any idea when this goes to senate?
    SC:TSC; PD:07/2008; RD:01/03/2012; FP Date:02/10/2012; EAD&AP:02/15/2012 (1 YR); GC:?

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    Is it fair to assume that if this bill is cleared by the Senate, EB2-I/C PDs might will move even further than what we are expecting now? What will then be the common PDs for all EB2 folks; will it be somewhere around 2009? I think EB3-I PDs will also move past 2002 but the progress of EB3-ROW will slow down significantly.

  24. #574
    H R 3012 - FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 860

    29-Nov-2011******6:56 PM

    ******QUESTION:**On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended
    ******BILL TITLE:*Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act

    ************* Yeas *** Nays ***NV ( Not Voting)
    Republican****** 210**** 13***** 18
    Democratic******179**** 02***** 11
    Independent*****
    TOTALS******** 389**** 15***** 29

  25. #575
    HR 3012 bill will now be presented to the Senate. The Senate will then refer the bill to the Senate Judiciary Immigration Subcommittee where its companion bill sponsored by Sen. Mike Lee of Utah is pending. It will be interesting to watch how quickly this bill will be taken up by Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, the Chairman of the Immigration Subcommittee. Considering the ticking clock for the recess of the First Session of 112th Congress in December, people may not be able to see any action for this bill until early next year. Please stay tuned. ( Source : http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html)

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