Wait and watch for now. Two more days to go. Anti-HR3012s have already thrown in the white flag, it seems. But they are gearing up with their false data and dubious arguments and their letters to Senators.
Wait and watch for now. Two more days to go. Anti-HR3012s have already thrown in the white flag, it seems. But they are gearing up with their false data and dubious arguments and their letters to Senators.
Before house judiciary committee hearing, ** claimed only 2 members will oppose the bill. It was proved true. The bill cleared judiciary committee with a voice vote. Voice vote is seen as an "unanimous support" in house and senate proceedings.
I hope the bill clears the house with ease...
I hope the bill clears the senate too...
I hope I'll be able to file for adjustment this fiscal year...
I hope i'll be able to go to India with peace of mind...
I hope. I hope. I hope....
Hope is definately a good thing, may be the best of the things. And no good thing ever dies....
Who's volunteering to watch CSpan to get the info real time. I'm in a hotel so it's unlikely that I'll have CSpan
I don't know if anyone here noticed/posted about d change in d Calendar.. but now it seems like 3012 is the first one in the list. If i am not wrong, last week it was third in the list.
FYI, i am not sure if they follow the order of the list from Cantor's site for debate/vote. I hope they do.
http://majorityleader.gov/Floor/
Last edited by jackbrown_890; 11-28-2011 at 08:14 PM.
I just noticed on weekly schedule it was listed 3rd and on daily schedule for 29th it is listed first. Last week, daily schedule wasn't available.Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
http://majorityleader.gov/floor/weekly.html
Last edited by jackbrown_890; 11-28-2011 at 08:15 PM.
Another thing I noticed on Jason's twitter feed posted by Eric Cantor: (on twitter on 23rd of Nov.)
"Eric Cantor - .@JasonintheHouse legislation (HR 3012) will help ensure America remains the world's most innovative economy in the years & decades ahead"
Cantor also twitted:
"Next week, the House will vote on legislation by @jasoninthehouse (HR 3012) which will improve the process for highly skilled immigrants."
Last edited by jackbrown_890; 11-28-2011 at 08:24 PM.
I think it is a foregone conclusion that 3012 will pass the house. All the news leading up to tomorrow's vote has been positive. Nobody has tried to create an issue out of it. It is under suspension of rules etc etc. It will happen tomorrow.
I am concerned about Senate. The Immigration Sub-Committee of the Senate Judicial Committee is the key. Many senators there are from states that have congressmen as co-sponsors of HR-3012 (Shumer NY, Feinstein CA, Durbin IL, Cornyn TX, Hatch UT) - hopefully they will have some influence on the senators. Republicans are in support it seems and it will depend upon first Chuck Shumer to bring the bill up for discussion and then turning one or more democrats in the committee to vote for the bill. After that it will be up to Harry Reid to bring the bill to vote in the Senate. We will make significant progress tomorrow - but a lot more work still remains to be done.
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So, does this mean that it will be up for a vote before 6:30 pm?
No - all votes in the house on Tue are scheduled for after 6:30pm. They will follow the order of the bills - but it might be around 7-7.30pm before the vote actually takes place.
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Today's scheduled vote is a big deal but not yet the destination where we want to reach. We all need to keep ploughing and keep urging other EB2&3 I&C folks to come aboard, make them aware of this legislation, make sure they donate money and time, that they are prepared to make calls when asked etc.
Steeper hills await us after this. Senate is going to be really hard. If certain amendments get attached to the bill in Senate then House may kill it. So we all need to vigilant.
Getting to the finish line is very important. Do not let your guard down till we cross it.
I completely agree. I see too much optimism (which isn't bad) and too much certainty in some messages I read here/trackitt/etc. We are getting satisfied and complacent and the other side is picking up speed. They are now asking for folks to get together and make calls to the senator (coz they too have kinda given up on the bill being passed in the house) and even the small stuff like voting on popvox/opencongress.
Both enthusiasm and fear have a snowball effect. Don't assume that they'll just sit there and complain with nonsensical (un)facts. They can spread enough confusion and false notions that some senators may just back off purely for political reasons.
EVEN AFTER THE BILL PASSES TODAY (which is NOT a given), please don't go out and celebrate. Today's passing (if at all) means NOTHING as far as law is concerned. It is immediately after the passing that we need to get our acts together, start calling the senators over a span of days, etc.
And using one form or another, if you see a message on a message board/news site/etc, that misleads the reader into how bad 3012 is, take it as your job to counter that message with facts... not how this bill effects you personally... but with facts about how it helps USA.
Good luck!
Agreed completely. Although the path taken by this bill till now is very encouraging, the political angle of it is very scary. Irrespective of the facts and what this bill does when it becomes law, I feel scared when I think that Senate is owned by Democrats and this bill has been introduced by republicans. If at all it has an easy passage in house it is only because Republicans own the house. Now when it comes to Senate passing it, I just hope Democrats won't feel that if this bill becomes a law the republicans will walk away with all the honors. I hope that a political reason alone will not become a potential reason for democrats to create a problem or slow down this bill in the Senate. Fingers crossed. And we need to do our best to get this through!!!
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We're reading too much into the bill, I think. This is too insignificant a bill to sway voters one way or the other. Republicans may say, 'we've done our part for immigration', but no voter is going to buy that argument. From the perspective of the legislators, this bill is squarely targeting their business donors and no one else. For that same reason, I don't think the Dems will scuttle the bill in the senate. My fear is that this bill just stays under the radar in the senate and is never brought to a vote, or as sportsfan says, gets pushed out to next year and into the middle of the election cycle. That's why we'll need to get on the phones and mobilize all the grassroots support we can muster.
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I don't believe in the argument "it is going to be difficult in Senate". First of all, it is a bipartisan bill -- the key point. Lawmakers don't vote for this on partyline. Both democrats and republicans support this bill. Hispanic caucus supports this, black caucus supports this, pro-business support this, pro-family supports this, Latinos support this, Indians support this, Chinese support this. I don't see a reason why this bill will fail in senate. If it were to fail, it would have failed in house judiciary committee itself. Today house is expected to pass this bill with 90% or more votes. My common sense says if it passes with a 90% vote in house, it will clear senate also with a similar majority. House reps and senate reps represent the same geographical areas. So the senate outcome should be similar.
As for the argument that this bill will be difficult to pass in January. I don't think it will be an issue to get this passed in January as it is a bipartisan bill.
I would recommend not posting feedback about a particular senator's stand in public forum. If needed, Q could create a private thread which will be accessible only to limited members or could use the private messaging feature of the forum.
Download Android app by Sunlight Foundation for real time updates regarding HR 3012. This app is called "Congress" in the Android Marketplace. Bill information is provided by GovTrack through the Library of Congress. As per the latest update on this app on my phone, HR 3012 will be voted at 6.30PM.
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If I were God, I'd give GC to all!
I think the bill will pass senate *if* brought to the floor for voting. But I always worry about other events overshawdoing such "smaller" bills e.g. another economic shock due to Euro collapse....or Israel attacking Iran which shocks the world economy...or may be i am just being paranoid ;-)
yeah, I'm tuned into it as well. Good luck to all.
WATCH HERE:
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/
Yes. Listening in C-SPAN Radio. Download iPhone app CSPAN
Rep Steve Cohen from TN talking in support of the bill.
"A country like India with a population of 1.2 Billion is limited to the same number of visas as a country like Iceland with a population of 300,000... and a lot of ice."
love this statement.
Looks like they are very time bound. every one is thanking for getting 50 seconds or so...
Super.... Rep of Virginia is highlighting Biography of Steve Jobs. .... saying to Bill clinton to have 30,000 skilled people he can get the apple techies back here in US soil.. wow that was a direct hit.
Last edited by immitime; 11-29-2011 at 04:25 PM.
There was no quroum in the house to vote so possibly by 6:30 pm.. it will pass without any issues
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