hmm...also...keep "DONT THINK SO" until we both get current ok!!!!....Originally Posted by nishant2200
hmm...also...keep "DONT THINK SO" until we both get current ok!!!!....
Last edited by soggadu; 09-16-2011 at 10:44 AM.
Sai999
This demand data by Spec , you are refering to is the total of India+China demand including PWMB but excluding porting
Your 10K is India alone or I+C ?
Folks.. i am looking for some urgent help.. if any of you have experience in renewing your passport in the Indian consulates in USA.. can you please answer my question below -
http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...in-CGI-Houstan
Thanks much!
Once my query is answered.. i will delete this post.. sorry to digress from the purpose of this thread....
I'll consider getting an InfoPass. End of the day I'll be held responsible for not filing before 90 days (no godly clue why a simple renewal takes 90-120 days after charging 380 bucks!?!). 2 yrs ago it took just 40 days. HR lady made it clear that I cannot remain employed without EAD. But since I've been a permanent employee for 3 yrs I would hope it'll be unpaid leave.
Not sure what "IV" is? Is there a ball park time frame that you believe before which the pending 2006 EB2 folks will get their GCs?
If you submit all the documents they need you should get it in 2 weeks. I renewed my PP (issued in India) in Houston and had no problem. I don't think you need to worry about verification with india. I went to the consulate to give my docs and got it back in 2 weeks by Fedex. Now this was 2 yrs back, things might have changed since. I know they have outsourced PIO card processing.
qblogfan,
Yes, we nailed it back in August! (post#6864)
Not a Legal advice/opinion, please check with good immigration attorney.
Thanks for pointing it out. Gurus covered everything!
Kanmani,
Yes i am referring to both I + C ,i am still not convinced with September 2007 we have pending 14,778 applications,i am thinking of around 10-12 k for both I+C ( Including PWMB + Porting) and i am thinking of porting is less than 3-4 k in whole year.By seeing all these factors and date movement in October i am thinking of dates can to go end 2008 to fill the pipe line.
Please let me know your thoughts...
April 2007 -------- 1,293
May 2007 ---------- 3,498
June 2007 --------- 6,282 (without spillover or Porting) FY2012 would end in June 2007)
July 2007 -------- 10,675
August 2007 ------ 12,860
September 2007 --- 14,778
October 2007 ----- 16,975
November 2007 ---- 19,010
December 2007 ---- 20,888 (if porting were 5,000 then 25,888 visas required to clear Dec 2007)
January 2008 ----- 23,453
February 2008 ---- 25,870
March 2008 ------- 27,856
April 2008 ------- 30,259
May 2008 --------- 32,482
June 2008 -------- 34,372
July 2008 -------- 36,174
August 2008 ------ 37,947
September 2008 --- 39,584
October 2008 ----- 41,669
November 2008 ---- 43,403
December 2008 ---- 45,226
I am seeing various posts that by end of 2012, date might not even go past nov-dec 2007.
According our gurus - till march'2007 there is 30000 Demand ( with porting and pwmb), is this including multiple of 2.25/2.07? or else we need to multiply 30000*2.07/2.25?
1) If 30000 includes spouse/child, then if we assume there is 22000 spill over next year ( so it reaches around november), does co need to move dates forwards by few months so as to build up inventory for 2013 and as a result of it do we need to assume there is optimistic possibility that people till mar-may 2008 might get their EAD?? by end 2012 ( I mean December 2012)/March 2013?
And also i remember nvc receipts for consular processing usually given 1 year in advance.
2) if the 30000 needs to be multiplied then it highly impossible to reach pd even March by 2014 - hope this is not case
IV is Immigration Voice, google it to find website
EAD policy is dependent on company, some allow just leave of absence, some don't, really sorry. I have heard that if it's more than 90 days, you can take infopass, and they give you temporary EAD card.
I am not sure why you still don't have GC, but I don't think dates will ever retrogress that far back, so you should always be current.
The figures by Spec I think he uses 2.05 dependant factor, but he can answer better.
I can say though that the figures include the dependents. If not, I would have considered going to timbuktoo to stay in a hole in the ground
My take on this would be that , its difficult to judge data by 2k/3k accuracy. As i quoted previously
1) I have some ( i can personally count atleast 30 with confidence and most of them got married after 2008 so they have child only after that) female batch mates from Masters whose priority dates were in 2007 and 2008 who already got their GC's from their Husbands apps
2) apart from it i have few friends who got multiple labors which 2007 and first half of 2008 priority dates ( These people jumped from Desi consultancies to Full time Employment, i can count 4-5 of them as everybody does not declare this openly).
3) There is no definite agreement on amount of porting people as it depends on strictness of application validation, if they are strict in validation it might be same as this year or even less orelse it might even jump high.
But probably my personal contacts might be different from others.
Thanks for Calrification Nishant.
The figures by Spec I think he uses 2.05 dependant factor, but he can answer better.
I can say though that the figures include the dependents. If not, I would have considered going to timbuktoo to stay in a hole in the ground
Romney's take on Immigration ( week old), I did quick search with 'Romney' and it not return any post, sorry if it was Repost
http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...H_1B_visa_need
Looks like perry is also supporter of high tech immigration
Last edited by grnwtg; 09-16-2011 at 12:23 PM.
The below line is misleading
December 2007 ---- 20,888 (if porting were 5,000 then 25,888 visas required to clear Dec 2007)
I thought porting =5000 should have been negated by the yearly (I+C)quota of 5606.
There fore to reach December 2007 (incl porting) will still need 20,888 SO.
Sai
I+C ALREADY SUBMITTED (during 2007 fiasco Apr 15 to aug17) = 8350 *
As Veni already replied you inthe earlier post , Spectator has compiled PERM data into a table which shows number of People whose perm approved after Aug 2007 (CHINA & INDIA )as follows
- PD -- FY2007 -- FY2008 -- FY2009 -- FY2010 -- FY2011 --- Total ---- %
Jan-07 ---- 24 ------ 29 ------ 17 ------- 1 ------- 3 ------ 74 --- 0.48%
Feb-07 ---- 44 ------ 42 ------ 22 ------- 5 ------- 1 ----- 114 --- 0.74%
Mar-07 ---- 71 ------ 55 ------ 18 ------- 4 ------- 2 ----- 150 --- 0.98%
Apr-07 --- 212 ------ 71 ------ 24 ------- 3 ------- 0 ----- 310 --- 2.02%
May-07 --- 495 ----- 141 ------ 49 ------ 11 ------- 2 ----- 698 --- 4.55%
Jun-07 --- 721 ----- 303 ------ 68 ------ 13 ------- 2 --- 1,107 --- 7.21%
Jul-07 --- 471 ----- 523 ----- 176 ------ 26 ------- 5 --- 1,201 --- 7.82%
Aug-07 --- 567 --- 1,189 ----- 251 ------ 85 ------- 8 --- 2,100 -- 13.68%
Sep-07 --- 100 --- 1,781 ----- 297 ----- 109 ------- 6 --- 2,293 -- 14.94%
Oct-07 ----- 0 --- 2,187 ----- 148 ----- 286 ------- 7 --- 2,628 -- 17.11%
Nov-07 ----- 0 --- 2,016 ------ 35 ----- 376 ------- 7 --- 2,434 -- 15.85%
Dec-07 ----- 0 --- 1,914 ------ 36 ----- 284 ------ 13 --- 2,247 -- 14.63%
Total -- 2,705 -- 10,251 --- 1,141 --- 1,203 ------ 56 -- 15,356 - 100.00%
From the above table you can see PERM from Apr 15 to Sept 30 is atleast 7554 .
This 7554 perm would provide atleast 7000 EB2 485s (which includes primary+ dependents )
I guess your estimation is too low
* Total from Demand Data of oct bulletin
cbpds1, I would say that more and more we see the figures, it becomes fuzzy. I myself sometimes have an eureka moment like this, and then Spec, Veni , Q or Teddy point out my theory can be recycled
Let's wait for the great Spectator to rise and answer this. We have surely rubbed the lamp for the genie to arise.
Some thoughts:
The current immigrant system is not protecting labor at all. From PERM process to I140 process, employers can hide everything and the employees have no rights to ask or check the application at all. The current immigration system maximizes the rights and power of the employers and give no rights to employees.
Now for Indian and Chinese GC applicants, we may have to wait for 4-5 years before we can submit 485. During these 4-5 years, we are kept in darkness. We don't know what the employers did and we can be cheated by the employers easily. This is ridiculous!
Luckily I came to know FOIA process from Indian friends and finally got my 140 application secretly. My company didn't give me any document in the past 4-5 years. This system is designed and used to exploit foreign labor and has no protection of the employee's interest at all!
It's not a fair system, it's cold blooded, especially for the Chinese and Indian applicants who have to wait for 4-5 years before the submission of 485. A guy on mitbbs was cheated and he was kept in darkness for 4-5 years and finally the company told him they didn't do anything for him. He couldn't do anything to his company, although he was cheated and wasted 4-5 years of his youth.
This system does not protect employee interests at all. It's explicit exploitation. Sorry for my words. I encourage everybody to use FOIA to check employer's work. We can't take the risk of being cheated. Here is the form for FOIA request. It took me six months to get it. I would recommend you to get it as soon as your 140 is approved.
www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-639.pdf
Last edited by qblogfan; 09-16-2011 at 02:16 PM.
spec's table shows how many visas needed, total required is 25k, regardless you call out the quota separately or not 25k is the number
every day I pray to god for giving me an opportunity to work for an excellent employer... my employer is very transparent, shares each and every document with me... i know not every one gets a good employer like mine... in fact my previous employer was blood sucker, just like yours...
Yes, it depends on luck. Some of my friends' companies allow them to do PERM/140 by themselves. From PERM to 140, the employees can keep track of every details, but my company only uses their own attorney and I can't access any document/file they filed. The only document their mailed to me was the last page of PERM approval notice and they asked me to sign it. They didn't even mail me the first several pages of the PERM file.
FOIA is the best way to verify and counter attack the evil employers like mine.
Spec's thread in FACTS and DATA section says "How Much Spillover is Required?"
In this thread the last sentence before the numbers says "Add your assumed Porting figure to the numbers e.g. if you think Porting will be 5,000, then to reach the end of December 2007 will require 25,888 visas (SOFAD)."
The column header says
------------------- SOFAD
------------------ FY2012
Not including any Porting
<Data table>
When folks look at the numbers they think they need xxx spillover and 5.6k is not considered.
Certain predictions made earlier based on Spec's numbers as SO required did not consider 5.6k regular quota
Am just trying to see if we made a small mistake assuming it as SOFAD instead of number of visas required.
Qblogfan - thanks for sharing the info.
By law companies have to hide certain pieces of information from the beneficiary, for example the recruiting process during PERM which requires advertising and seeking any US citizens for the job can (should) not be shared with the beneficiary to keep it fair and unbiased.
But at the completion of each milestone the companies must provide the evidence to the beneficiary such as a copy of the petitions filed/approved etc.
However I have a few friends who faced issues getting the information from their employers for various reasons. FOIA is a great tool to protect the beneficiary in those situations.
If you see the Teddy's calculation in the below thread, I decipher that he may be adding porting and then using Spec's numbers as Spillover required and not considering 5.6k regular quota.
http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...=8340#post8340
Disclaimer: I may be totally wrong as I have not done any number crunching but have been a silent observer of the calc
Wow - this data is amazing. I had no idea that India is now accounting for such a large proportion of GC applications. Could you please share the source qblogfan?
This is based in Labor filings - so I guess it includes EB-2+3 but not EB1. This probably means that PD for EB-India will continue to be atrociously behind. EB-China will perhaps move much faster than India until spillover forces them to get matched. Even counting for that, in near future we might reach a situation where India is the only retrogressed country in EB-2 and EB-2C is current as well.
Its quite amazing that South Korea is not retrogressed. I read somewhere that South Koreans now form the largest foreign student group in US - so it might just be a matter of time before EB-SK gets backlogged. However, the counterpoint is that in my experience a lot more SK students go back to Korea than Indian or Chinese students.
Last edited by imdeng; 09-16-2011 at 03:28 PM.
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