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  1. #6451
    Quote Originally Posted by whereismygclost View Post
    Thanks mesan and gclonwait for ur assuring responses regrading H1 extensions.
    dont even worry abt it...i just got mine for 3 years on 140 a week back....i opted PP...

  2. #6452
    Thanks soggadu bhai ..i am becoming more and more pessimistic after Sept VB ...H1 toh rahega ..GC bhi ayega ..kabhi toh ayega jaroor!! Happy Friday!
    Quote Originally Posted by soggadu View Post
    dont even worry abt it...i just got mine for 3 years on 140 a week back....i opted PP...

  3. #6453
    hey Teddy...i see you online...give us a good view of what you think has happened and what you think will happen going forward... i always liked your posts along with specs details veni's numbers and Q's management style... please tell us ur views...
    Last edited by soggadu; 08-12-2011 at 03:16 PM.

  4. #6454
    Quote Originally Posted by whereismygclost View Post
    Thanks soggadu bhai ..i am becoming more and more pessimistic after Sept VB ...H1 toh rahega ..GC bhi ayega ..kabhi toh ayega jaroor!! Happy Friday!
    i remember we both share the same PD... oct 22... nothing much we can do than wait, but getting H1 extension definitely relieves a lot of tension... when mine was being processed i was so tensed that i was thinking of asking my lawyer to apply for consular processing and keep my stuff in storage and all.... but none the less it was approved...so dont worry be cool... i am very sure u will see approval soon... my best wishes r with u.... as somebody said.."At my age it is unseemly to be pessimistic" ... we r too young to b pessimistic bhai... there is more to life than a September bulletin...
    Last edited by soggadu; 08-12-2011 at 03:20 PM.

  5. #6455
    Friends - As some of know my PD is Aug6th 2007 and hoping to file my i485 before end sep2012.
    I have a question. I work for a consulting firm and terms with my employer is not going that great. Assuming my dates become current ,
    1.Can he stop me not to apply i1485 saying i dont have a future job with the company?
    2.Can i apply i485 on my own?.

    Please let me know. Just want to clarify this.

  6. #6456
    He has already done his job by applying 140 to USCIS. 485 is your application. You own it.
    All your employer can do is withdraw the 140. So as long as you don't do anything that will incentivize to hurt you you are safe.

    6 months AFTER 485 is filed he can't withdraw underlying 140 and you are totally free as long as you have a similar job offer from anybody.


    Quote Originally Posted by indiaeb2 View Post
    Friends - As some of know my PD is Aug6th 2007 and hoping to file my i485 before end sep2012.
    I have a question. I work for a consulting firm and terms with my employer is not going that great. Assuming my dates become current ,
    1.Can he stop me not to apply i1485 saying i dont have a future job with the company?
    2.Can i apply i485 on my own?.

    Please let me know. Just want to clarify this.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  7. #6457
    Quote Originally Posted by indiaeb2 View Post
    Friends - As some of know my PD is Aug6th 2007 and hoping to file my i485 before end sep2012.
    I have a question. I work for a consulting firm and terms with my employer is not going that great. Assuming my dates become current ,
    1.Can he stop me not to apply i1485 saying i dont have a future job with the company?
    2.Can i apply i485 on my own?.

    Please let me know. Just want to clarify this.
    He can't stop you per se, but if he doesn't give you an EVL, you will not have a basis to be approved.

    I am assuming you are PWMB. If so, you don't have EAD, and hence you need the original I-140 petetioning Employer to give you an EVL. If you have EAD and are past 180 days of I-485 filing, you could have changed to another employer with same or similar profession, and when your I-485 comes to approval stage, USCIS may send you an RFE for EVL, in which case your new employer should provide you that. This RFE may or may not come, regardless of whether you filed the AC21 letter with USCIS when you changed job on EAD.

  8. #6458
    soggadu moved the discussion to a new thread http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...eing-Processed

    I really think that everybody who reads this forum should pay close attention to this fact. Don't be shy about your value. Be heard and be promoted! And while GC has some way to go, if promotion is important, be vocal. Worst case is ... it won't happen. But hey at least you tried.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  9. #6459
    Q,

    There is some discussion on trackitt that the lack of visa approvals in the past couple days means that the quota for this month has dried up. I am wondering what your take is. Surely sounds like something that might happen given that there was no movement for September...

  10. #6460
    EB2 C

    Demand Data shows 3200 qualified until 15 August 2007. I am not taking into account numbers which may become documentarily qualified, or some of the 3200 which may not be approved.

    2803 available.

    27% of this is 756

    For simplicity sake, let me spread 3200 from 15th April 2007 to 15th August 2007 evenly, and assume 100 PWMB for them each month. I have a hunch that Chinese tend to be usually married and graduates of universities in masters or PhD, if they are in EB2. Hence 3200/4 = 800 + 100 = 900. I am ignoring Porting for China, I have no information on that, if someone has idea, we can enhance.

    15th April 2007 - 15th May 2007 - 900
    15th May 2007 - 15th June 2007 - 900
    15th June 2007 - 15th July 2007 - 900
    15th July 2007 - 15th August 2007 - 900

    225 a week.

    Hence:
    Q1 FY 2012, 675/756 (81 left) would give them a resting date of: 8th May 2007
    Q2 FY 2012, 675/756 (81 left) would give them a resting date of: 1st June 2007
    Q3 FY 2012, 675/756 (81 left) would give them a resting date of: 22nd June 2007

    Q4 is exempt from 27% limit.
    Q4 FY 2012, (2803 - 675 * 3) = 778 would give them a resting date of : 22nd July 2007
    Demand left = (3200 - (2803 - 325 PWMB)) = 722

    In Q4, also there should be SO, so the 722 left should ideally be easily approved, hence EB2 C should be able to cross the 15th August 2007 hurdle.

    Now to apply SO, it is strictly in order of oldest PD. So what kind of impact would this have on COD. Would the movement which would need to be done for EB2 C also benefit EB2 I in anyway. Until what point these two would be independant, and what point they would have to be conjoined twins again. Just thinking.
    Last edited by nishant2200; 08-12-2011 at 06:01 PM.

  11. #6461
    Quote Originally Posted by chirag.n View Post
    Q,

    There is some discussion on trackitt that the lack of visa approvals in the past couple days means that the quota for this month has dried up. I am wondering what your take is. Surely sounds like something that might happen given that there was no movement for September...
    chirag, I think even if there is (I am not saying it will) retro in October (assuming that's what you were trying to refer to), we should not panic or think too much into it. It's almost like a self-correcting system, almost like the congestion control/avoidance backoff algorithms, and over time, the movement starts tending to where it was, and eventually forward in the FY.

  12. #6462
    Chirag,

    We can only wait and see what the trend is. If the trend of EB2IC not being approved persists then I would be really worried. But as of now, a couple of days don't make a trend. So lets wait through end of next week and see.

    Quote Originally Posted by chirag.n View Post
    Q,

    There is some discussion on trackitt that the lack of visa approvals in the past couple days means that the quota for this month has dried up. I am wondering what your take is. Surely sounds like something that might happen given that there was no movement for September...
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  13. #6463
    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    He can't stop you per se, but if he doesn't give you an EVL, you will not have a basis to be approved.

    I am assuming you are PWMB. If so, you don't have EAD, and hence you need the original I-140 petetioning Employer to give you an EVL. If you have EAD and are past 180 days of I-485 filing, you could have changed to another employer with same or similar profession, and when your I-485 comes to approval stage, USCIS may send you an RFE for EVL, in which case your new employer should provide you that. This RFE may or may not come, regardless of whether you filed the AC21 letter with USCIS when you changed job on EAD.
    Thanks Q and Nishant.
    Yes Nishant i fall under PWMB. I have my copy of my labor and i140. Good to hear that he wont be able to stop me. Thanks for letting me know. Have a good weekend.

  14. #6464
    I am sorry to burst your bubble, There is no way that american congress can fix immigration. Think about it, if they can't agree on american finances(debt limit) what are the chances that politicians will agree on fixing immigration.

    Wisc..

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    Source...???

    Is this an outcome of the hearing on 26th july

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    In this current situation , If a Republican Rep introduces a immigration bill, will it pass ?

    News coming up that a Immigration bill to eliminate 7% country cap is on the way from Republican's side .

    What do you guys think ?

  16. #6466
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiscdude View Post
    I am sorry to burst your bubble, There is no way that american congress can fix immigration. Think about it, if they can't agree on american finances(debt limit) what are the chances that politicians will agree on fixing immigration.

    Wisc..
    Have to keep trying. You never know.

  17. #6467
    Appreciate it. Keep sharing good info.

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    NIU post about what CO has said

    I found this on the Chinese NIU site http://translate.google.com/translat...ational.com%2F

    I think it is interesting enough to post, but I can't say whether it is true or not.

    NIU organization today with Auburn in September asked to explain why no progress in VB India EB2, and EB3 India should move forward to confirm whether he is still a month with the family places.

    Auburn explained as follows:

    The bottom line is that USCIS has suddenly found large amounts of non China / India EB1 and EB2 cases to process during the past month or so.

    They have also indicated that they have well over 12,000 of such cases which they plan to process during the remainder of August and September.

    This recent demand, and new level of Aug. / Sept. demand had never been identified by USCIS as a potential issue during our discussions in recent months.

    This change in their processing completely different than the historical number use pattern which had been experienced through May / June, which was reasonably expected to continue throughout the summer months.

    That is why I had thought that the Sept. EB1/EB2 cut-off would be at least July 1, 2007.

    When they contacted me last Friday describing their future workload plans that totally changed everything.

    In addition, he confirmed EB3I with the family or places in India.
    What I can say is that in EB1, India has been on target for over 4k visas for some time, representing something over 2/3 of the total last year.

    ROW has been well below this figure, suggesting that either cases remained to be adjudicated, or that the % use within EB1 was shifting significantly to India/China (assuming China usage was similar to India's as it was last year).

    The numbers talked about are a bit mind blowing - I'm not sure there are enough visas left to approve that many.

    The last bit is a bit more confusing. It might be suggesting that EB3-I progress in August/September is possible because of under usage in FB (the same argument used for South Korea).

    If that is indeed the case, that will be controversial, because many other Countries have significantly lower FB usage than India, yet do not benefit from more visas. Historically, India has been very close to or completely used the 7% allocation in FB, mainly due to high usage of F4 visas. Any extra visas given to EB3-I will come at the expense of those given to EB3-ROW, since no transfer of extra allocation to EB3 takes place in this scenario.

    In addition, since the overall limit for this to be possible is 25,620, India would certainly have exceeded that number in FB + EB.

    TBH the statement doesn't make much sense in the English translation, so take that with a very large pinch of salt. I may have misinterpreted it completely incorrectly - and probably have.
    Last edited by Spectator; 08-14-2011 at 01:11 PM.
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  20. #6470
    Spec, Interesting. related to above, sharing a conversation I had with Teddy: (copied from my sent mail from iphone)

    I simply think that they had to make their books look good at the end
    of the year, and there must be overwhelming pressure on USCIS to clean
    up slate on the backlog of EB1 and EB2 ROW. Also it is to our
    advantage that EB2 ROW remains Current. When there is backlog in
    categories which are officially Current, and huge chunks of visas are
    being given to retrogressed countries, it is going to raise red flags.
    Just a common sense POV from me here.

    I was disappointed that day, but I immiidately attributed it to just
    the above reasoning. This time the lawyers (OH Law firm, and various
    noises on internet) had the insider trickles right, about USCIS being
    concerned about the reduction in demand (meaning less documentarily
    qualified and increasing backlog) of EB1 and EB2 ROW.

    They kind of focused on us for some months, and now they are focusing
    on the EB1, EB2 ROW.

  21. #6471
    Another point, I think CO/USCIS/DOS is looking to mostly err on the side of caution always, coz they do have the flexibility of utilizing EB3ROW to avoid visa wastage.

  22. #6472
    Spec
    Last week when visa bulletin came along ... it was a no brainer that EB1 EB2ROW usage had to go up! EB5 CANT be the reason why EB2IC are shoved.
    I was pleasantly surprised by from the chinese data (if true) that there were 12K cases found in EB1 EB2ROW and otherwise the number was on track to 1st July. I had predicted 8th July!

    So honestly what we see here is exactly what we have always maintained. Influence of Policy on the workings of government agencies. We have nailed the demand model of EB2 reasonably well. Not in the predictions on day one sense .... but throughout the year as events unfold we can sense very well where the dates will move. However what;s impossible to predict is things such as these which IMHO are policy driven. I just find it impossible to believe suddenly 12K cases were "FOUND"!!

    p.s. - I could hardly comprehend the EB3I comment. And I disagree if the comment says the movement is because of EB+FB 7% limit. I have previously given actual calculations why EB3I could easily have this kind of movement. So there is nothing mysterious there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    I found this on the Chinese NIU site http://translate.google.com/translat...ational.com%2F

    I think it is interesting enough to post, but I can't say whether it is true or not.



    What I can say is that in EB1, India has been on target for over 4k visas for some time, representing something over 2/3 of the total last year.

    ROW has been well below this figure, suggesting that either cases remained to be adjudicated, or that the % use within EB1 was shifting significantly to India/China (assuming China usage was similar to India's as it was last year).

    The numbers talked about are a bit mind blowing - I'm not sure there are enough visas left to approve that many.

    The last bit is a bit more confusing. It might be suggesting that EB3-I progress in August/September is possible because of under usage in FB (the same argument used for South Korea).

    If that is indeed the case, that will be controversial, because many other Countries have significantly lower FB usage than India, yet do not benefit from more visas. Historically, India has been very close to or completely used the 7% allocation in FB, mainly due to high usage of F4 visas. Any extra visas given to EB3-I will come at the expense of those given to EB3-ROW, since no transfer of extra allocation to EB3 takes place in this scenario.

    In addition, since the overall limit for this to be possible is 25,620, India would certainly have exceeded that number in FB + EB.

    TBH the statement doesn't make much sense in the English translation, so take that with a very large pinch of salt. I may have misinterpreted it completely incorrectly - and probably have.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
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    Q,

    I totally agree with you about EB3-I.

    The Chinese seem to have a conspiracy theory about it. The movement can be totally explained by other factors. In fact, my post was also designed to debunk their theory.

    Like you, I think the most disappointing aspect, is the "finding" of these cases. It suggests either crass incompetency by USCIS and/or USCIS are still withholding information on their side of the demand.

    With that kind of mindset, how can DOS be expected to manage the unknown demand past the backlog as well as porting and PWMB?

    I think the level of trust has suffered a serious setback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    Another point, I think CO/USCIS/DOS is looking to mostly err on the side of caution always, coz they do have the flexibility of utilizing EB3ROW to avoid visa wastage.
    Not unless the ROW COD is advanced to allow for the possibility.
    Without an irritant, there can be no pearl.

  25. #6475
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    Not unless the ROW COD is advanced to allow for the possibility.
    Excellent catch Sensei

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