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Thread: EB2 Predictions (Rather Calculations) - 2011

  1. #6101
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyKoochu View Post
    As the inventory was updated in May with the Local office demand I think the only way would be to wait for the next one in October and then extrapolate to a year. Otherwise you can assume that EB3 I itself had atleast 2K LO demand that makes porting 6K. Let me know if Iam missing something.
    Teddy/Q/Spec/Veni,

    Do you think there wont be any movements in the coming bulletins till next spill over season which is pretty much May 2012. Or there is chance of one or more weeks movements in each bulletin.

  2. #6102
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    How do we know 2011 number is 30K + ?

    Shouldn't it lesser than 30K ?
    Count between Apr 2007 and May 2006 is ~26k, porting is atleast 4k

  3. #6103
    Quote Originally Posted by bieber View Post
    Count between Apr 2007 and May 2006 is ~26k, porting is atleast 4k
    We need to add PWMB also

  4. #6104
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    This is cruel. But you should be current any month now.


    gcseeker great advice. I especially strongly recommend 3 & 4 on your list.


    Would've liked to. I belong to the state that has the distinct honor of passing SB1070 Those from here wouldn't be a bad idea to get together for a drink. We will ask Jack Brown to send us whatever he is going to smoke tonight


    Harick ... thanks .. we need this tonight !!

    As per next year .... I would bet that the SOFAD next year should be similar to what we will see this year unless Kazarian situation changes.
    You know what i am going to smoke...more thn welcome to join..
    I have moved to a state where we have Desi woman as a governor but also have n honor of passing something similar to SB1070 and on top of that some of the TOP dumb state legislators are talking about having border security at state border. Are u Efing kidding me? Are they Efing HIGH? We border GA,NC and Atlantic Ocean. What kind of border security are they talking about?
    anyways, jokes aside. It is good that VB didn't retro today. But i was hoping we will have enough movement to have total of 12 months movement for FY year 2011. It was little short. If it averages less thn a year for next few years, GC wait for EB2 will someday reach to EB3 levels.

  5. #6105
    Quote Originally Posted by neospeed View Post
    We need to add PWMB also
    that 26k is almost till the end of april and assumed that will take care of PWMB and 90% approval rate

  6. #6106
    thanks for your kind words!

    I just feel our EB immigrants are not being treated well.

    I am upset because he should have BTMed in this summer, but he didn't.

    I seriously doubt it would cause him any trouble if he had BTMed.

    People with PD after July 2007 have been waiting for 4 years, how much longer should these people wait?

    EB2 should be mad as hell!

    Quote Originally Posted by leo07 View Post
    qblogfan,

    I understand your pain, trust me it'll be 14 years tomorrow, I really understand what you are talking about.

    At the end of the day, CO, as I see is doing much better job than his predecessors. He is doing his best to not waste visa numbers, and wiggle enough room for CI categories with in his bounds.

    Like Teddy and Others mentioned, our expectations were high and the information/reasoning provided is not enough to convince either forward movement/no-movement.

    Hang in there mate, I really wish you well. If you see the difference between yesterday-today-tomorrow is just our 'expectations'.

    Best!

  7. #6107
    One Chinese guy cotacted Mr.CO for his hold of EB2 and no explanation in VB, he replied:

    I attempt to provide guidance regarding future visa
    availability on a quarterly basis, and whenever I anticipate a significant
    change. Attempting to make longer range projections is extremely unwise
    given the potential changes in demand which can occur at any time. Recent
    changes in USCIS processing of Employment cases is a great example.
    Despite their trend of a somewhat low/stable rate of non China/India EB1 and
    EB2 processing during the first 8+ months, large amounts of demand have
    suddenly appeared and prevented movement of the EB2 date. Such a large rate
    demand was completely unexpected an unannounced until it began to appear.

    It's just like shit as always. He always finds excuses for his decision. Nothing new, just full of bull shit again!

    Quote Originally Posted by qblogfan View Post
    thanks for your kind words!

    I just feel our EB immigrants are not being treated well.

    I am upset because he should have BTMed in this summer, but he didn't.

    I seriously doubt it would cause him any trouble if he had BTMed.

    People with PD after July 2007 have been waiting for 4 years, how much longer should these people wait?

    EB2 should be mad as hell!

  8. #6108
    Usually there would be max 1-2 weeks once a while. But the major movement won't be until May-Jun onwards 2012.

    Except however this year in unusual that they need to build pipeline if SOFAD is going to be more than 16-18K next year. So I would expect a good movement by Q1 2012 ie. calendar year.

    Quote Originally Posted by srivi2007 View Post
    Teddy/Q/Spec/Veni,
    Do you think there wont be any movements in the coming bulletins till next spill over season which is pretty much May 2012. Or there is chance of one or more weeks movements in each bulletin.
    Quote Originally Posted by leo07 View Post
    qblogfan,I understand your pain, trust me it'll be 14 years tomorrow,
    Leo a few more years and you can start calling yourself "Native Indian"!! Jokes Apart ... but i hope your case sorts out soon in case your kids are going to become college age anytime soon.
    Last edited by qesehmk; 08-09-2011 at 04:35 PM.
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    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  9. #6109
    again its tough luck for pwmb.. this is range of people who's wounds are bruised all the time...hope 2012 brings in good news...

  10. #6110
    Quote Originally Posted by CO View Post
    I attempt to provide guidance regarding future visa
    availability on a quarterly basis, and whenever I anticipate a significant
    change. Attempting to make longer range projections is extremely unwise
    given the potential changes in demand which can occur at any time. Recent
    changes in USCIS processing of Employment cases is a great example.
    Despite their trend of a somewhat low/stable rate of non China/India EB1 and
    EB2 processing during the first 8+ months, large amounts of demand have
    suddenly appeared and prevented movement of the EB2 date. Such a large rate
    demand was completely unexpected an unannounced until it began to appear.
    looks like Q's take is spot on, EB1 and EB2-Row took over the remaining numbers and may be this is good for next year SOFAD

  11. #6111
    can that person ask CO why there was no BTM when it wud be prudent to do so this time?

    Quote Originally Posted by qblogfan View Post
    One Chinese guy cotacted Mr.CO for his hold of EB2 and no explanation in VB, he replied:

    I attempt to provide guidance regarding future visa
    availability on a quarterly basis, and whenever I anticipate a significant
    change. Attempting to make longer range projections is extremely unwise
    given the potential changes in demand which can occur at any time. Recent
    changes in USCIS processing of Employment cases is a great example.
    Despite their trend of a somewhat low/stable rate of non China/India EB1 and
    EB2 processing during the first 8+ months, large amounts of demand have
    suddenly appeared and prevented movement of the EB2 date. Such a large rate
    demand was completely unexpected an unannounced until it began to appear.

    It's just like shit as always. He always finds excuses for his decision. Nothing new, just full of bull shit again!

  12. #6112

    Preliminary rough analysis for FY 2012

    A preliminary rough analysis for FY 2012.

    8000 - demand data
    4000 - PWMB hidden demand
    6000 - Porting demand

    They are kind of already beginning with above 18k demand in FY 2012, just moving dates back to July 2007 threshold would yield them 12k demand as well as the porting is a throughout the year consistent phenomena.

    Let’s assume the 5k for EB2 I/C negates the Porting to be just 1000.

    So we can say they are starting with 13k hidden/known/will arise demand.

    Let's say each month later on, till Q3 2008 has almost 2500 demand each month.

    Half August 2007 : 1250
    Each month then on till late 2008 : 2500

    SO -- Dates
    -- ------
    13k -- 15th August 2007
    14.25k -- 1st Sep 2007
    17k -- 8th Oct 2007
    19.5k -- 8th Nov 2007
    20k -- 15th Nov 2007
    22k -- 8th Dec 2007
    24.5k -- 8st Jan 2008
    27k -- 8th Feb 2008
    29.5k -- 8th March 2008
    30k -- 15th March 2008

    Positives:
    - All EB2 I/C till 15th April 2007 accounted for.
    - No 15/12 demand for EB1, EB2 ROW coming into FY 2012, backlog reduced as much as they could, so backlog is not a concern in FY 2012
    - EB2 ROW shall continue to remain current

    Puzzles:
    - what will be patterns of EB1, EB2 ROW, EB5
    - will CO consider doing quarterly SO in conjunction with SFM
    - is BTM in favor at all
    - what will be strategy of CO in terms of SFM, UFM, BTM, and so on to have the pipeline functioning properly

    Guys, let me know if something is wrong, or can be better factored in.
    Last edited by nishant2200; 08-09-2011 at 04:49 PM.

  13. #6113
    qbf, actually this answer by CO explains very well. I am really amazed as to how the chinese have this line of communication with him. Hats off.

    I understand your disappointment, there is nothing I can say to soothe that. Will pray to God for everyone. Hang on.

    Quote Originally Posted by qblogfan View Post
    One Chinese guy cotacted Mr.CO for his hold of EB2 and no explanation in VB, he replied:

    I attempt to provide guidance regarding future visa
    availability on a quarterly basis, and whenever I anticipate a significant
    change. Attempting to make longer range projections is extremely unwise
    given the potential changes in demand which can occur at any time. Recent
    changes in USCIS processing of Employment cases is a great example.
    Despite their trend of a somewhat low/stable rate of non China/India EB1 and
    EB2 processing during the first 8+ months, large amounts of demand have
    suddenly appeared and prevented movement of the EB2 date. Such a large rate
    demand was completely unexpected an unannounced until it began to appear.

    It's just like shit as always. He always finds excuses for his decision. Nothing new, just full of bull shit again!
    Last edited by nishant2200; 08-09-2011 at 04:50 PM.

  14. #6114
    Quote Originally Posted by bieber View Post
    looks like Q's take is spot on, EB1 and EB2-Row took over the remaining numbers and may be this is good for next year SOFAD
    I dont think it is good since by next year people filling in EB1 and their attorneys will learn to game the Kazarian memo/system and start eating 100% of EB1 quota. Remember these are smart hard working people and will definitely game the system to their advantage when required. In other words, EB1 folks will make any kinda cock-n-bull stories about their work experience, publish another 4-5 junk papers, which will make it hard to reject their case.
    Last edited by ssvp22; 08-09-2011 at 04:50 PM.

  15. #6115
    thank you sir.

    I am very mad about this VB. I think many people feel the same.

    I hope all of us can get GC ASAP!


    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    qbf, actually this answer by CO explains very well. I am really amazed as to how the chinese have this line of communication with him. Hats off.

    I understand your disappointment, there is nothing I can say to soothe that. Will pray to God for everyone.

  16. #6116
    I don't know that person. He just asked and posted on mitbbs.

    Originally he told us that Mr.CO is helping EB2, but it turns out CO f***ed EB2.


    Quote Originally Posted by cbpds1 View Post
    can that person ask CO why there was no BTM when it wud be prudent to do so this time?

  17. #6117
    Quote Originally Posted by qblogfan View Post
    large amounts of demand have
    suddenly appeared and prevented movement of the EB2 date. Such a large rate
    demand was completely unexpected an unannounced until it began to appear.
    I dont believe this theory. This is akin to saying - hey its summer and ice cream sales are going to go up. Only way this can be justified is that EB1 attorneys have figured out a way around the Kazarian memo and are back with full force.

  18. #6118
    Quote Originally Posted by ssvp22 View Post
    I dont think it is good since by next year people filling in EB1 and their attorneys will learn to game the Kazarian memo/system and start eating 100% of EB1 quota. Remember these are smart hard working people and will definitely game the system to their advantage when required. In other words, EB1 folks will make any kinda cock-n-bull stories about their work experience, publish another 4-5 junk papers, which will make it hard to reject their case.
    That is true, they will be smarter. It won't be 12k from them again. I think this year was the peak in SOFAD. It should be written in gold in history. itihas ke pannon par suvarn aksharon se likha jaega.

    Let's hope USCIS also gets smarter and rejects their cock-n-bull stories.

    I am digressing now, but I saw guys from Nepal get their GCs in 8-9 months in EB2 ROW. Perspective

    joke:

    chaukidar to my father: aapka beta kya kar raha hai
    my father: naukeri kar raha hai, 15 saal se GC ka wait kar raha hai
    chaukidar: saabji, mei toh next year GC par jaa raha hun amrika, mera beta toh 6 saal pehle hi citizen ban gaya

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    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    A preliminary rough analysis for FY 2012.

    8000 - demand data
    4000 - PWMB hidden demand
    6000 - Porting demand

    They are kind of already beginning with above 18k demand in FY 2012, just moving dates back to July 2007 threshold would yield them 12k demand as well as the porting is a throughout the year consistent phenomena.

    Let’s assume the 5k for EB2 I/C negates the Porting to be just 1000.

    So we can say they are starting with 13k hidden/known/will arise demand.

    Let's say each month later on, till Q3 2008 has almost 2500 demand each month.

    Half August 2007 : 1250
    Each month then on till late 2008 : 2500

    SO -- Dates
    -- ------
    13k -- 15th August 2007
    14.25k -- 1st Sep 2007
    17k -- 8th Oct 2007
    19.5k -- 8th Nov 2007
    20k -- 15th Nov 2007
    22k -- 8th Dec 2007
    24.5k -- 8st Jan 2008
    27k -- 8th Feb 2008
    29.5k -- 8th March 2008
    30k -- 15th March 2008

    Positives:
    - All EB2 I/C till 15th April 2007 accounted for.
    - No 15/12 demand for EB1, EB2 ROW coming into FY 2012, backlog reduced as much as they could, so backlog is not a concern in FY 2012
    - EB2 ROW shall continue to remain current

    Puzzles:
    - what will be patterns of EB1, EB2 ROW, EB5
    - will CO consider doing quarterly SO in conjunction with SFM
    - is BTM in favor at all
    - what will be strategy of CO in terms of SFM, UFM, BTM, and so on to have the pipeline functioning properly

    Guys, let me know if something is wrong, or can be better factored in.
    This looks a reasonable estimate to me. I will expect the total SOFAD (incl. EB2-I/C quota of 5.6K) to be at least in the range of 20K - 25K; so the dates should surely move to somewhere around late 2007 (if not more).
    Last edited by pch053; 08-09-2011 at 05:00 PM.

  20. #6120
    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    qbf, actually this answer by CO explains very well. I am really amazed as to how the chinese have this line of communication with him. Hats off.

    I understand your disappointment, there is nothing I can say to soothe that. Will pray to God for everyone. Hang on.
    I think IV also got direct line, but they don't share any info. If they share also it will be very cryptic.

  21. #6121
    don't take CO's words seriously.

    all these words are just excuses.........

    we never know the real time data and nobody is checking him.

    he does what he wants, but his words are nothing but BS........

    Quote Originally Posted by ssvp22 View Post
    I dont believe this theory. This is akin to saying - hey its summer and ice cream sales are going to go up. Only way this can be justified is that EB1 attorneys have figured out a way around the Kazarian memo and are back with full force.

  22. #6122
    Even they share the info, it won't make any difference.

    CO's words are not trustable at all. He played EB community big time.

    Quote Originally Posted by neospeed View Post
    I think IV also got direct line, but they don't share any info. If they share also it will be very cryptic.

  23. #6123
    I understand your frustation....my colleague is from srilanka...he applied with me for his GC...now he has his EAD and waiting for GC card...he is in USA for last 4 years...sometimes i feel like why this difference...but sometimes i feel thinking that way i am becoming selfish and jealous seeing others get GC which is not right too..

    Par kya kare...akir hum tho insan hey baghavan tho nahi ....

    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    That is true, they will be smarter. It won't be 12k from them again. I think this year was the peak in SOFAD. It should be written in gold in history. itihas ke pannon par suvarn aksharon se likha jaega.

    Let's hope USCIS also gets smarter and rejects their cock-n-bull stories.

    I am digressing now, but I saw guys from Nepal get their GCs in 8-9 months in EB2 ROW. Perspective

    joke:

    chaukidar to my father: aapka beta kya kar raha hai
    my father: naukeri kar raha hai, 15 saal se GC ka wait kar raha hai
    chaukidar: saabji, mei toh next year GC par jaa raha hun amrika, mera beta toh 6 saal pehle hi citizen ban gaya
    Last edited by mesan123; 08-09-2011 at 05:05 PM.

  24. #6124
    Quote Originally Posted by qblogfan View Post
    One Chinese guy cotacted Mr.CO for his hold of EB2 and no explanation in VB, he replied:

    I attempt to provide guidance regarding future visa
    availability on a quarterly basis, and whenever I anticipate a significant
    change. Attempting to make longer range projections is extremely unwise
    given the potential changes in demand which can occur at any time. Recent
    changes in USCIS processing of Employment cases is a great example.
    Despite their trend of a somewhat low/stable rate of non China/India EB1 and
    EB2 processing during the first 8+ months, large amounts of demand have
    suddenly appeared and prevented movement of the EB2 date. Such a large rate
    demand was completely unexpected an unannounced until it began to appear.

    It's just like shit as always. He always finds excuses for his decision. Nothing new, just full of bull shit again!
    If this is true, then CO's hands are not tied by law. He thinks it is not "wise" to do a BTM even if there are ample justifications.(fill up the EB2 queue for similar spillover next year). His statement Attempting to make longer range projections is extremely unwise given the potential changes in demand which can occur at any time says it all. He wants to be conservative.

  25. #6125
    My PD is April 15th, 2007. Ha hahhaha. Stuck for the last two months now.

    I was hoping that once I get my GC, I would quickly quit my boring IT job and start doing what i really love. I regularly compete in cross-fit sports in our state. I am a certified fitness trainer and wanted to shift into this field..

    Well, I am stuck !!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    This is cruel. But you should be current any month now.


    gcseeker great advice. I especially strongly recommend 3 & 4 on your list.


    Would've liked to. I belong to the state that has the distinct honor of passing SB1070 Those from here wouldn't be a bad idea to get together for a drink. We will ask Jack Brown to send us whatever he is going to smoke tonight


    Harick ... thanks .. we need this tonight !!

    As per next year .... I would bet that the SOFAD next year should be similar to what we will see this year unless Kazarian situation changes.

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