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Thread: EB2-3 Predictions (Rather Calculations) 2015-2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pundit Arjun View Post
    I do believe CO can do better. Hence I agree with anyone saying that - "He is a partner in this crime" or that he is riding the gravy train...

    Not picking on Spec but using his update to put forth my points :

    a) Since Consulates are closed, CO should have the number from Consulate as ZERO [0] in his calculator or Excel or any tool he uses.

    b) CO should not have "some" idea but clear idea and number based on "Preadjudicated" cases.

    CO can do the above two for sure and should not give any excuses.

    The folks who are responsible for transporting the paperwork from Storage to location - should clearly review their performance. Dude, If this is your Job and you are getting paid for it - Do it on time and do it efficiently.
    If this is too much of an ask, do consider hiring us [immigrants] and we can show how its done.

    Imagine if a lawn contractor, or plumber or handyman that you use - give you the excuses we have been seeing in doing their Job [Keeping updates straightforward, do their work and bill for only what they do] - We would have fired them longtime ago. For christsakes, we are not asking for grace or help or relying on luck - DO THE JOB...
    CO certainly has an estimate of how many cases are there before the filing date. Back in 2015, when this two date system was introduced, it was mentioned that the date of filling is the date they expect the FAD to move to in 8-12 months. The whole idea was to allow people to apply 8-12 months early so that by the time the case is pre adjucated, the fàd has moved to that date, and it can be approved without further delay.

    So to set the filing date, they need to have some way to estimate the demand.

    That's why in my opinion there should be a good chance of the FAD moving to the current filing dates in a few months for eb2, and eb 3 i. The forecasting system could have usual errors, but with a higher spillover expected into fy 2021, i was expecting fad to soon reach the filing dates that were published in oct 2019 for most categories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prabakarb View Post
    I filed in 2010 and my Priority date is 04/02/2010. Am I exempt from the interview as well when my date becomes current?
    I wonder how you were able to file in 2010 with PD of April,2010. Maybe in 2012?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    The process for visa allocation is explained quite well in this document.
    Thanks for pointing to the right document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idliman View Post
    Changing the topic a bit, anyone have Reddy & Co as their attorneys? I hear rumor that they told clients in this weekly meeting that only EB1 will move in next VB. Does AILA faithful’s have some insider information?
    Why would someone hire them as their attorneys and give them business. Crazy.

    They're the ones who were telling consulting body shops to oppose H4 EAD rule and even contributing towards it. They made youtube take down the video. they're one of the the reason for this mess...why would someone hire them. Amazing

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    Sorry to be blunt, but I think you're living in some kind of idealized cloud cuckoo land, or rather naive.

    CO has already said that he has moved the dates further than he otherwise would have done. That said, I do think CO could/should have been somewhat more aggressive to force USCIS hand. But really, it's now irrelevant how many Consular approvals there are, it is USCIS processing capacity. You simply can't ignore the fact that it is severely diminished and likely to remain that way for (at least) the rest of the FY. CO mentioned that USCIS were able to approve only 60% of EB1/EB2 cases in May 2020 compared to the same period last year.

    QUESTION:
    In last month’s Check In, Charlie said that *it is unlikely that the employment-based limit will be reached in FY2020*. If that is the case, why is Charlie not accelerating the Visa Bulletin with the hope of attracting as many approvals as possible?

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    That is exactly what I am doing, but I have to do so within reason based on processing capacity, and not strictly for the sake of movement with no reasonable expectation of actual number use.

    Processing capacity at both consular posts and USCIS is diminished due to the pandemic. Currently, immigrant visa processing at consular posts abroad is limited to *mission critical* processing, which is defined at the discretion of the post and which is often limited to adjudicating cases based on compelling reasons, such as age-outs.

    Immigrant visa processing at USCIS has also been constrained due to the pandemic, but their capacity has been much greater than that of the consular posts. For example, in May 2020, USCIS used over 3,600 numbers across the employment-based first and second preference categories. This contrasts with number usage in excess of 6,000 for the same categories in May 2019.
    However, I do not want to see the situation we had in 2012, where people with 2010 PD were approved at the expense of people with earlier PD (all the way back to late 2007). There's people who missed out on approval at that time who have had to wait a further 8 years or more because of that. If USCIS have reduced processing capacity, let it be used on those with the oldest PD. USCIS are not going to sort cases by PD if they are all "current".

    I think you need to also give some thought to what USCIS priorities might be at the moment - and that might not be EB approvals.
    There is a large backlog of Naturalization cases at present and it's an Election year when caseload historically increases. I think USCIS has already said that processing those and getting oath ceremonies completed is a priority. In terms of processing, the I-400 process is now almost completely converted to online electronic processing, Biometrics, Interview and Oath Ceremony notwithstanding.

    I accept my view may be contrary to the majority here, but I think it's more realistic and considers an overall view of what's happening rather than being entirely EB-centric.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pundit Arjun View Post
    I do believe CO can do better. Hence I agree with anyone saying that - "He is a partner in this crime" or that he is riding the gravy train...

    Not picking on Spec but using his update to put forth my points :

    a) Since Consulates are closed, CO should have the number from Consulate as ZERO [0] in his calculator or Excel or any tool he uses.
    Nearly true, but CO has already stated that some cases are being processed at Consulates on an emergency basis i.e. when "age out" may be a consideration. I do agree that for practical purposes, the number can be considered to be zero.

    b) CO should not have "some" idea but clear idea and number based on "Preadjudicated" cases.
    As I mentioned before, preadjudicated cases are not the ONLY cases. Your angst should rather be directed towards USCIS for their appalling lack of information sharing or even knowledge of how many cases might become current for any shift in the FAD. You should look at the history between DOS and INS/DHS/USCIS. It doesn't really seemed to have moved forward at all since 2007. Further, any cases that have been preadjudicated in the past still need final review by a human before they can be approved. That means they need to get in front of an adjudicator.

    CO can do the above two for sure and should not give any excuses.

    The folks who are responsible for transporting the paperwork from Storage to location - should clearly review their performance. Dude, If this is your Job and you are getting paid for it - Do it on time and do it efficiently.
    If this is too much of an ask, do consider hiring us [immigrants] and we can show how its done.

    Imagine if a lawn contractor, or plumber or handyman that you use - give you the excuses we have been seeing in doing their Job [Keeping updates straightforward, do their work and bill for only what they do] - We would have fired them longtime ago. For christsakes, we are not asking for grace or help or relying on luck - DO THE JOB...

    I think you are living under a rock, if you haven't heard about something called COVID-19.
    Supply chains have been severely affected across the world, let alone the USA.
    Much to USCIS discredit, the AOS process remains largely paper based even now. The ability to move physical items must have been severely curtailed. Who knows how many people are even working at these locations?

    I certainly know that, if it's not already physically in my possession or available via computer, then a document might as well not exist at the moment.

    I not allowed to collect it and I wouldn't travel 100's of mile to get it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    However, I do not want to see the situation we had in 2012, where people with 2010 PD were approved at the expense of people with earlier PD (all the way back to late 2007). There's people who missed out on approval at that time who have had to wait a further 8 years or more because of that. If USCIS have reduced processing capacity, let it be used on those with the oldest PD. USCIS are not going to sort cases by PD if they are all "current".
    Thanks for the big picture. I disagree with above thought, I would like to see maximum utilization at this point, it isn't unconscionable again in big picture.

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    Ohh boy, something which I has been in my mind has been put into words by Spec.

    Treat USCIS as any big company, each company as Business Units (BU). Just because market changed overnight you can't scale up workforce in gives BU within weeks. Same with USCIS, just because they now have 25K EB visa they can't distribute those without due diligence (medicals, background checks and what not). Keep in mind USCIS is involved in many things (adoption, SEVIS, naturalization, GC and many more...) it doesn't mean you can move folks from one Org to another in middle of pandemic. They are overwhelmmed and by moving dates, situation will be much worse.

    As a backlogged GC candidate I am all with you in terms of utilization of visa numbers, I do realize there is limit to it and there will be wastage. Crossing my fingers that its minimal (in 4 digits) instead of high 5 digit number which has been thrown around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdeng View Post
    Yup. No interview for you.
    Does that hold true for people who lets say filed for PERM in 2010 and then in 2017 changed to a new company who then filed again for PERM and I-140 and ported their priority dates from 2010 to the new petition?

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    Not in cuckoo land or naive, Spec. You can say that I have gotten Numb.
    Do note that I am not calling USCIS as saints and CO and others only as being on the wrong side.

    Believe all of us are working now and performing the job essentials keeping with the CDC guidelines and being safe. Expecting the same from the folks who are working their hours as well and to give straightforward updates [again similar to what you are doing on a regular basis].

    Not wishing for CO or anyone for that matter to risk their life to approve a petition - funny and sad that someone mentioned that.

    And like Mahendra said - this opinion of mine is not because we have the virus going on now. This is something that all stakeholders will expect [including me] always.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    Sorry to be blunt, but I think you're living in some kind of idealized cloud cuckoo land, or rather naive.

    CO has already said that he has moved the dates further than he otherwise would have done. That said, I do think CO could/should have been somewhat more aggressive to force USCIS hand. But really, it's now irrelevant how many Consular approvals there are, it is USCIS processing capacity. You simply can't ignore the fact that it is severely diminished and likely to remain that way for (at least) the rest of the FY. CO mentioned that USCIS were able to approve only 60% of EB1/EB2 cases in May 2020 compared to the same period last year.


    However, I do not want to see the situation we had in 2012, where people with 2010 PD were approved at the expense of people with earlier PD (all the way back to late 2007). There's people who missed out on approval at that time who have had to wait a further 8 years or more because of that. If USCIS have reduced processing capacity, let it be used on those with the oldest PD. USCIS are not going to sort cases by PD if they are all "current".

    I think you need to also give some thought to what USCIS priorities might be at the moment - and that might not be EB approvals.
    There is a large backlog of Naturalization cases at present and it's an Election year when caseload historically increases. I think USCIS has already said that processing those and getting oath ceremonies completed is a priority. In terms of processing, the I-400 process is now almost completely converted to online electronic processing, Biometrics, Interview and Oath Ceremony notwithstanding.

    I accept my view may be contrary to the majority here, but I think it's more realistic and considers an overall view of what's happening rather than being entirely EB-centric.

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    Spec - i think you too are either being naive or feigning naivety.

    If CO fears visas will be wasted he should move dates far enough to include all pre-adjudicated cases. That maximizes USCIS' ability to request a visa. If he is not doing it for fear of people being mis prioritized, he will still be within law because the processing is upto USCIS. All he has to do is allocate visa when requested as per law (i,e. country category PD).

    So the ball is in CO's court. I am quite well aware of the history and dynamic between the departments. But this specific situation today requires CO to be bold.

    It is easy for DOS or USCIS to say EB is not the only thing. Yes of course they are not the one rotting in EB queue for 12 years.

    On another note - the CP process being manual is an excellent example where bureaucracy exists for its own sake. They have ZERO incentive to automate the process. They are fees funded. So why would they. When needed jack up the prices. Isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    Sorry to be blunt, but I think you're living in some kind of idealized cloud cuckoo land, or rather naive.

    CO has already said that he has moved the dates further than he otherwise would have done. That said, I do think CO could/should have been somewhat more aggressive to force USCIS hand. But really, it's now irrelevant how many Consular approvals there are, it is USCIS processing capacity. You simply can't ignore the fact that it is severely diminished and likely to remain that way for (at least) the rest of the FY. CO mentioned that USCIS were able to approve only 60% of EB1/EB2 cases in May 2020 compared to the same period last year.


    However, I do not want to see the situation we had in 2012, where people with 2010 PD were approved at the expense of people with earlier PD (all the way back to late 2007). There's people who missed out on approval at that time who have had to wait a further 8 years or more because of that. If USCIS have reduced processing capacity, let it be used on those with the oldest PD. USCIS are not going to sort cases by PD if they are all "current".

    I think you need to also give some thought to what USCIS priorities might be at the moment - and that might not be EB approvals.
    There is a large backlog of Naturalization cases at present and it's an Election year when caseload historically increases. I think USCIS has already said that processing those and getting oath ceremonies completed is a priority. In terms of processing, the I-400 process is now almost completely converted to online electronic processing, Biometrics, Interview and Oath Ceremony notwithstanding.

    I accept my view may be contrary to the majority here, but I think it's more realistic and considers an overall view of what's happening rather than being entirely EB-centric.
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    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    Sorry to be blunt, but I think you're living in some kind of idealized cloud cuckoo land, or rather naive.

    CO has already said that he has moved the dates further than he otherwise would have done. That said, I do think CO could/should have been somewhat more aggressive to force USCIS hand. But really, it's now irrelevant how many Consular approvals there are, it is USCIS processing capacity. You simply can't ignore the fact that it is severely diminished and likely to remain that way for (at least) the rest of the FY. CO mentioned that USCIS were able to approve only 60% of EB1/EB2 cases in May 2020 compared to the same period last year.


    However, I do not want to see the situation we had in 2012, where people with 2010 PD were approved at the expense of people with earlier PD (all the way back to late 2007). There's people who missed out on approval at that time who have had to wait a further 8 years or more because of that. If USCIS have reduced processing capacity, let it be used on those with the oldest PD. USCIS are not going to sort cases by PD if they are all "current".

    I think you need to also give some thought to what USCIS priorities might be at the moment - and that might not be EB approvals.
    There is a large backlog of Naturalization cases at present and it's an Election year when caseload historically increases. I think USCIS has already said that processing those and getting oath ceremonies completed is a priority. In terms of processing, the I-400 process is now almost completely converted to online electronic processing, Biometrics, Interview and Oath Ceremony notwithstanding.

    I accept my view may be contrary to the majority here, but I think it's more realistic and considers an overall view of what's happening rather than being entirely EB-centric.
    So Green card and Naturalization cases handled by the same resources in USCIS? CO and DHS can ask USCIS to reserve green card for people who filed I485 (April 2010 for EBI).
    In your earlier(few years back)posts, you have mentioned that, you don't like country quota removal and supported ROWs faster green card approvals.

    People who already filed I485, please call house home land committee members explain to them that CO and USCIS bias towards Indian immigrants, ask them to reserve(even if its not approved) GC for already filed 485 applications.
    Remember paper ready (2014 May) episode, same CO and USCIS opposed advancing priority dates, informed Obama admin that they don't have resources to handle 485 applications, but they accepted h4 ead and processed for backlogged applicants, also DACA EAD.
    In 2007 July USCIS processed nearly million application.

  12. #6512
    Quote Originally Posted by GC-Immigrant View Post
    So Green card and Naturalization cases handled by the same resources in USCIS? CO and DHS can ask USCIS to reserve green card for people who filed I485 (April 2010 for EBI).
    In your earlier(few years back)posts, you have mentioned that, you don't like country quota removal and supported ROWs faster green card approvals.

    People who already filed I485, please call house home land committee members explain to them that CO and USCIS bias towards Indian immigrants, ask them to reserve(even if its not approved) GC for already filed 485 applications.
    Remember paper ready (2014 May) episode, same CO and USCIS opposed advancing priority dates, informed Obama admin that they don't have resources to handle 485 applications, but they accepted h4 ead and processed for backlogged applicants, also DACA EAD.
    In 2007 July USCIS processed nearly million application.
    I think there is misunderstanding in how USCIS processes cases. There is no online system to reserve visas for applications between certain dates. I read somewhere it literally is a manual process.

    Once certain PD is current, all pending files within that PD range are requested. Once the physical files are transported from storage to service centers, these files are manually assigned to officers, who look through the files to review current state and determine the next step, either approve or issue RFE.

    If approvable, they send a request to DOS for a visa and assign it to the case and approve the case. Sometimes they request and assign visa to a case even when issuing RFE (for preadjudicated cases needing updated medicals etc). This is the reason you would have seen cases getting approved even after dates retrogressed or became unavailable.

    This is also the reason why you hear terms like waiting to be assigned to officer, assigned to officer etc for SR, enquiry etc. So even for preajudicated cases, the processing capacity is limited.

    I think this is what CO is referring to in his response. If only 1000 cases can be processed in a month, he will probably move the dates so there is maybe 1100 cases. Even if you move further than that, it will only result in processing 1000 cases. So no point in moving.

    What spec says is also true. If he moves without heed to processing capacity, it will result in adhoc approvals without regard for PD. All this means is someone in 2010 will get approved while people in 2009 will still be in queue. So if the capacity is to approve only 1000 cases, it is better to move in orderly fashion so as to have predictable movement and not approval chaos which will result in unpredictable movements in future. This used to the case in the past where dates swung wildly, which led to inefficiencies and wastage. So the new model was adopted to keep it orderly and predictable.

    The one advantage of moving dates is filing 485 in case of age out dependent children. Given that majority have already filed and we are discussing only those who missed the boat, this number is going to be very negligible, if not zero. I am guessing that’s what CO is saying in his response as well.

    If there will be wastage, it still hurts, but the reason for that is diminished capacity and nothing to do with date movement. Given the furlough and backlog of naturalization cases, I don’t think it’s going to help even if dates are moved. Seeing the filing date for EB2I and EB3I, I think we are close to hitting the ceiling. My guess is the dates will still move, but not by much and it may be difficult to get even these cases approved this fiscal year, especially if furlough becomes reality. Only good thing is those who are current or become current in the next couple of months, will get GC before end of this year worst case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenow View Post
    I think there is misunderstanding in how USCIS processes cases. There is no online system to reserve visas for applications between certain dates. I read somewhere it literally is a manual process.

    Once certain PD is current, all pending files within that PD range are requested. Once the physical files are transported from storage to service centers, these files are manually assigned to officers, who look through the files to review current state and determine the next step, either approve or issue RFE.

    If approvable, they send a request to DOS for a visa and assign it to the case and approve the case. Sometimes they request and assign visa to a case even when issuing RFE (for preadjudicated cases needing updated medicals etc). This is the reason you would have seen cases getting approved even after dates retrogressed or became unavailable.

    This is also the reason why you hear terms like waiting to be assigned to officer, assigned to officer etc for SR, enquiry etc. So even for preajudicated cases, the processing capacity is limited.

    I think this is what CO is referring to in his response. If only 1000 cases can be processed in a month, he will probably move the dates so there is maybe 1100 cases. Even if you move further than that, it will only result in processing 1000 cases. So no point in moving.

    What spec says is also true. If he moves without heed to processing capacity, it will result in adhoc approvals without regard for PD. All this means is someone in 2010 will get approved while people in 2009 will still be in queue. So if the capacity is to approve only 1000 cases, it is better to move in orderly fashion so as to have predictable movement and not approval chaos which will result in unpredictable movements in future. This used to the case in the past where dates swung wildly, which led to inefficiencies and wastage. So the new model was adopted to keep it orderly and predictable.

    The one advantage of moving dates is filing 485 in case of age out dependent children. Given that majority have already filed and we are discussing only those who missed the boat, this number is going to be very negligible, if not zero. I am guessing that’s what CO is saying in his response as well.

    If there will be wastage, it still hurts, but the reason for that is diminished capacity and nothing to do with date movement. Given the furlough and backlog of naturalization cases, I don’t think it’s going to help even if dates are moved. Seeing the filing date for EB2I and EB3I, I think we are close to hitting the ceiling. My guess is the dates will still move, but not by much and it may be difficult to get even these cases approved this fiscal year, especially if furlough becomes reality. Only good thing is those who are current or become current in the next couple of months, will get GC before end of this year worst case.
    You don't know the intention of these agencies, they don't like Indian immigrants, when 485 FAD introduced by Obama admin, same officials opposed advancing filing dates for India, and reverted back October 2015 VB, at that time one lawyer (The Firm) mentioned about groups(within DHS and USCIS) opposing advancing filing dates, regarding Spec, we are following him last 7 years, know his intentions very well. People who filed 485, please call house homeland committee members ask them to reserve GC for already filed applications.

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    I am stunned by the callousness of the administration and it's agencies (USCIS and DoS) towards the plight of high skilled, legal, tax paying immigrants. How can you prioritize naturalization over GC approvals when there are upwards of 30,000 people waiting in line for more than a decade. How cruel can an agency be after taking thousands of dollars from the same people they are supposed to serve.

    These anti immigrant policies are going to hurt the economy and American way of life in the long term. If you drive away skilled immigrants, they will either go back to their home country or move some where they are accepted. There was a time when people would do desperate things to get a GC, not any more. I see dozens of posts in LinkedIn every day where people are going back home having abandoned the GC process. Also, almost all of my friends who went back have turned in to entrepreneurs. The only thing that is remaining is to stop the spigot of students coming to the US. With the new rule, ICE will accelerate this process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karanjohar View Post
    I am stunned by the callousness of the administration and it's agencies (USCIS and DoS) towards the plight of high skilled, legal, tax paying immigrants. How can you prioritize naturalization over GC approvals when there are upwards of 30,000 people waiting in line for more than a decade. How cruel can an agency be after taking thousands of dollars from the same people they are supposed to serve.

    These anti immigrant policies are going to hurt the economy and American way of life in the long term. If you drive away skilled immigrants, they will either go back to their home country or move some where they are accepted. There was a time when people would do desperate things to get a GC, not any more. I see dozens of posts in LinkedIn every day where people are going back home having abandoned the GC process. Also, almost all of my friends who went back have turned in to entrepreneurs. The only thing that is remaining is to stop the spigot of students coming to the US. With the new rule, ICE will accelerate this process.
    In the larger picture, issuing GC is only one of the activities of the agency. The naturalization will take precedence this year because of upcoming election.

    Though for us it seems to be the most important item to be addressed, those agencies deal with this every day. So for them this is business as usual. From our perspective wasting visas are downright criminal given the huge backlog. For them, it is another day and if there is less processing capacity, something will have to take a backseat. This is a case of trying to get one baby in a month using 9 women rather than one women giving birth in 10 months. Not gonna happen.

    Across the globe, the productivity has reduced and we drew the short stick as a consequence of the impact. I still think they will try to do as much as possible, but given the furlough, there will still be wasted visas.

    This is truly atrocious from our perspective. 25k visas is close to 9 years of country capped visas. Unfortunately, nothing can be done.

    Given the anti immigrants running the show in admin, what do you expect? When one senator can explicitly prevent a equality bill from passing, with some of our folks even defending him, what do you expect? There is a large impact due to the suspension of immigration. For example, think of Diversity lottery winners. They essentially won the lottery but cannot collect due to the suspension. Every single group has been impacted, families separated etc.

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    Most naturalized citizens vote democratic. So it beats common sense that under a republican administration the political leadership will prioritize naturalization in an election year. No they won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Most naturalized citizens vote democratic. So it beats common sense that under a republican administration the political leadership will prioritize naturalization in an election year. No they won't.
    That's what sounded so fishy about the quote. My guess is they are lying. They are not prioritizing anything. They just want to use this as a decoy to curb immigration. End of the day (in the future) when we look back and review the stats and realize we have been had, then obviously there is nothing we can do about it.

  18. #6518
    Then why they are moving EB1-I ?Are we expecting EB2I DF to hit 2011 by December 2020?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1312011_eb2I View Post
    Then why they are moving EB1-I ?Are we expecting EB2I DF to hit 2011 by December 2020?
    Maybe they are prioritizing EB1 within EB1,2&3 and maybe within EB1 they are prioritizing people with last names beginning with X, Y and Z.

  20. #6520
    I have so many examples, folks came on L1b in 2013/14, got EB1C filed within an year, got GC in 2015/16 , now talking about Citizenship test.
    People came in 2008 , filed on EB2 ( with Masters degree) still waiting for EAD.
    So frustrating.

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    That's was the way to go back then, only if the misuse was stopped little earlier, we will not be in the current stage.
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  22. #6522
    Not sure I understand why some folks here do not want dates moving far ahead just because it results in ad-hoc gc approvals. Eventually wouldn’t it benefit everyone in the waiting line since there’ll be that many fewer pending cases and dates will start moving faster. If it’s a view based on fairness and principles then why begrudge someone in a similar situation as you, i.e. waiting for a gc for over 10 years, move ahead in line by a couple of years when we see candidates from ROW get greened without waiting more than a year or two. It’s great to expect equality and fairness from all things in life, but the US immigration system isn’t one of them and is not going to be at least in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dharmindesai View Post
    Not sure I understand why some folks here do not want dates moving far ahead just because it results in ad-hoc gc approvals. Eventually wouldn’t it benefit everyone in the waiting line since there’ll be that many fewer pending cases and dates will start moving faster. If it’s a view based on fairness and principles then why begrudge someone in a similar situation as you, i.e. waiting for a gc for over 10 years, move ahead in line by a couple of years when we see candidates from ROW get greened without waiting more than a year or two. It’s great to expect equality and fairness from all things in life, but the US immigration system isn’t one of them and is not going to be at least in the near future.
    They are for profit shops, please ignore them, don't follow any of these VB astrologers, if you have already filed 485, please call congress home land committee members and explain CO and USCIS bias against Indians, 25K GC will clear every one who applied 485.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dharmindesai View Post
    Not sure I understand why some folks here do not want dates moving far ahead just because it results in ad-hoc gc approvals. Eventually wouldn’t it benefit everyone in the waiting line since there’ll be that many fewer pending cases and dates will start moving faster. If it’s a view based on fairness and principles then why begrudge someone in a similar situation as you, i.e. waiting for a gc for over 10 years, move ahead in line by a couple of years when we see candidates from ROW get greened without waiting more than a year or two. It’s great to expect equality and fairness from all things in life, but the US immigration system isn’t one of them and is not going to be at least in the near future.
    Because its a Trillion $ scale industry that feeds the following value chain

    Person in the Immigration pipeline -> Pays for USCIS - visa every 12-18months Indirectly because the company hiring is going to take cost out of his pay -> attorneys retainers services -> IRS Taxes ->Social Security we dont take anything out but pay in full-> Consumers - the duration we are stateside we consume trillions of dollars

    As many people as we can put into this process flow, as legally process allows for, there is no need change anything. Basically, we are the goose laying eggs in a farm and we don't realize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GC-Immigrant View Post
    They are for profit shops, please ignore them, don't follow any of these VB astrologers, if you have already filed 485, please call congress home land committee members and explain CO and USCIS bias against Indians, 25K GC will clear every one who applied 485.
    This is great. Please share your experience or any template you follow. Also, is there any legal remedy here to prevent wastage?

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