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Thread: EB2-3 Predictions (Rather Calculations) 2015-2020

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    They also moved the Filing date for EB2-I to June 1 09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceMan View Post
    The date movement last month was slow for EB3. There is little possibility like last April for a good Eb3 final date movement. Compared to 20 months back when Eb3 was stuck in March 2005 for a long time, any movement is good.
    It has already moved to Jun 22,2009. It's a good sign that most of the 2009 will be taken care in this FY. I hope they don't waste any visas in EB3 for this FY. As per Oct,2018 VB, they let people file till Oct 1,2009. So anything beyond Oct 1,2009 is a great bonus for EB3-I.


    As far as downgrades go, it may not impact that much for the remaining 5 months for this FY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferric View Post
    Spillover not applied, right? Guessing it’ll be applied in the last quarter so July bulletin?
    Spillover for EB2-I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmys View Post
    It has already moved to Jun 22,2009. It's a good sign that most of the 2009 will be taken care in this FY. I hope they don't waste any visas in EB3 for this FY. As per Oct,2018 VB, they let people file till Oct 1,2009. So anything beyond Oct 1,2009 is a great bonus for EB3-I.


    As far as downgrades go, it may not impact that much for the remaining 5 months for this FY.
    I think, the EB3I FAD will move beyond October 2009 once the spill over is available in the last quarter. However, will it end up to April 2010? That is something we cannot answer at the moment.

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    PD of May 19, 2009 EB2I

    The slow movement in EB2 is making me think of porting down. Not sure about the timelines for porting, the costs involved etc., Are there any resources or weblinks that folks here can point to for reference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyruss View Post
    The slow movement in EB2 is making me think of porting down. Not sure about the timelines for porting, the costs involved etc., Are there any resources or weblinks that folks here can point to for reference?
    I think it's up to your employer. They have to file another I-140 in EB3-I. I'm not sure how many employers will be in favor of fast tracking their employees' GC. Besides, if you had already filed I-485 in EB-2, it would be hard to convince your employer to go for another I-140 to get ahead.

    The downgrades will pose big threat for people who have their EB3-I PDs beyond May 1,2010. I don't see it's creating troubles for people with EB3-I PDs in 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyruss View Post
    The slow movement in EB2 is making me think of porting down. Not sure about the timelines for porting, the costs involved etc., Are there any resources or weblinks that folks here can point to for reference?
    My PD is EB2I May 22, 2009. And I’m thinking of downgrading too. Just talked to my lawyer and he said since my date is current in EB3, I could go ahead file 485 simultaneously. I’m seriously thinking of doing this. BTW how long is it taking to get AP and EAD now a days ? And can I travel out of country with AP/EAD without I-140 approved yet. It will take 6 months to get I-140 approved.

    Most likely I’ll start my downgrade next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srimurthy View Post
    Apr bulletin is out:

    https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...pril-2019.html

    3 days movement for EB2I and 1 month for EB3I
    Looks like more of an approach to stop downporting
    Technically it's 3 days movement but logically no movement. March bulletin had 04/09/2009 priority date which is a Thursday, Friday(04/10/2009) a good Friday holiday, 04/11/2009 is a Saturday and 04/12/2009 is a Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyruss View Post
    The slow movement in EB2 is making me think of porting down. Not sure about the timelines for porting, the costs involved etc., Are there any resources or weblinks that folks here can point to for reference?
    The one good ref I found: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-h...proval-webber/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmys View Post
    I think it's up to your employer. They have to file another I-140 in EB3-I. I'm not sure how many employers will be in favor of fast tracking their employees' GC. Besides, if you had already filed I-485 in EB-2, it would be hard to convince your employer to go for another I-140 to get ahead.

    The downgrades will pose big threat for people who have their EB3-I PDs beyond May 1,2010. I don't see it's creating troubles for people with EB3-I PDs in 2009.
    If costs are no issue and do you see any problem in downgrading ? I already have EAD card through EB2 with May 2009 PD.

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    I already have EAD card with EB2 with May 09 PD. I have heard that if I downgrade to EB3 I would have to go through a GC interview, but if I dont downgrade I wont have to ? Is it true ?

    What is the deal with GC interviews ? Do all categories have to do it nowadays ? If so, any comment on the interview waiting period ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by infotalk View Post
    I already have EAD card with EB2 with May 09 PD. I have heard that if I downgrade to EB3 I would have to go through a GC interview, but if I dont downgrade I wont have to ? Is it true ?

    What is the deal with GC interviews ? Do all categories have to do it nowadays ? If so, any comment on the interview waiting period ?
    Only if 485 is filed after March 2017 there is an interview required. You are exempt from it. But people are spreading rumors that interview is required to dissuade people from down porting. This is EB3 folks who don't want too many people to flood the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iatiam View Post
    Only if 485 is filed before March 2017 there is an interview required. You are exempt from it. But people are spreading rumors that interview is required to dissuade people from down porting. This is EB3 folks who don't want too many people to flood the system.
    It is otherway around Only if 485 is filed AFTER March 2017 there is an interview required
    EB3 has interview and scheduling may take upto a year in New York/Silicon valley field offices

    NBC center takes 6+ months to process issue EAD for all EB(1/2/3)-I category

    If one have EAD, there is no need to downport, other wise one can file concurrently if DF dates are current.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h1bh1bh1b View Post
    It is otherway around Only if 485 is filed AFTER March 2017 there is an interview required
    EB3 has interview and scheduling may take upto a year in New York/Silicon valley field offices

    NBC center takes 6+ months to process issue EAD for all EB(1/2/3)-I category

    If one have EAD, there is no need to downport, other wise one can file concurrently if DF dates are current.
    Yes, my bad. I meant to say AFTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by iatiam View Post
    Yes, my bad. I meant to say AFTER
    The interview thing is a kind of grey area. I wish we have a case that went through this. But if you are thinking about downgrading to eb3 on an EAD after changing employers then i believe the chances of 485 denial is higher.

    Issue #7 (added Sept 19, 2018): The EB3 downgrade must be done by the same employer that did the EB2 I-140 filing. If you have a pending I-485 application and have changed employers, then the downgrade does not exist as an option for you. I thought I would add this issue based on comments I have seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcvijay View Post
    The interview thing is a kind of grey area. I wish we have a case that went through this. But if you are thinking about downgrading to eb3 on an EAD after changing employers then i believe the chances of 485 denial is higher.

    Issue #7 (added Sept 19, 2018): The EB3 downgrade must be done by the same employer that did the EB2 I-140 filing. If you have a pending I-485 application and have changed employers, then the downgrade does not exist as an option for you. I thought I would add this issue based on comments I have seen.
    I don't get it. Thousands have upgraded to EB2 with no issues. Why would downgrade be a problem. Where does USCIS explicitly say that an interview is required if you downgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iatiam View Post
    I don't get it. Thousands have upgraded to EB2 with no issues. Why would downgrade be a problem. Where does USCIS explicitly say that an interview is required if you downgrade.
    Like i said I'm not sure about the interview its a grey area for me atleast and would love some experts opinion on that or even if someone can ask an attorney and chime in that would be great, but downgrading to eb3 with a pending i-485\EAD and job change is going to be tricky as the associated i-140 downgrade cannot be filed by the new job but only by the old job who holds your i-140.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcvijay View Post
    Like i said I'm not sure about the interview its a grey area for me atleast and would love some experts opinion on that or even if someone can ask an attorney and chime in that would be great, but downgrading to eb3 with a pending i-485\EAD and job change is going to be tricky as the associated i-140 downgrade cannot be filed by the new job but only by the old job who holds your i-140.
    My understanding is that if you have changed your job after you got the EAD, then the only avenue to downport is to do a new PERM and I-140. In that situation, you are not using/downgrading the old Perm/I-140 .. all you are asking is for the PD to be carried over. You'll need to also file a new I-485 I believe and that would require a Interview.

    Do speak to your employer's/personal attorney to clarify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenyearsgone View Post
    My understanding is that if you have changed your job after you got the EAD, then the only avenue to downport is to do a new PERM and I-140. In that situation, you are not using/downgrading the old Perm/I-140 .. all you are asking is for the PD to be carried over. You'll need to also file a new I-485 I believe and that would require a Interview.

    Do speak to your employer's/personal attorney to clarify.
    You cannot file a new 485. You can only file one 485 for any EB application. I did speak to my attorney and she did not mention the interview requuirement or new PERM. I

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikenlalan View Post
    Slowly moving EB2-I, they might be tempting the Apr-May-June 09 folks to jump the queue to EB-3 rather than advancing EB-3 I further ahead and letting folks with later PD to jump.
    Speculation:

    There should a big move in eb2i, CO might be holding eb2i dates back to utilize Eb3 spill over by applying them to eb3i downgrade applications. There should be at least 2000 eb2i visa's available. eb2i date should will move to june 1 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by iatiam View Post
    You cannot file a new 485. You can only file one 485 for any EB application. I did speak to my attorney and she did not mention the interview requirement or new PERM. I
    Please clarify. I am EB2I with PD of 23NOV09 with EAD and have changed to a new employer. I am starting a new PERM now so that I will have another option via EB3I. EB2 Vs EB3 is decided in I140 stage. I am going to decide in 9-12 months time (say JAN2020 to MAR2020) when my PERM is approved on EB2 or EB3 route. When I file I140 in Premium, will I file I485 also or not required?

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    Quote Originally Posted by idliman View Post
    Please clarify. I am EB2I with PD of 23NOV09 with EAD and have changed to a new employer. I am starting a new PERM now so that I will have another option via EB3I. EB2 Vs EB3 is decided in I140 stage. I am going to decide in 9-12 months time (say JAN2020 to MAR2020) when my PERM is approved on EB2 or EB3 route. When I file I140 in Premium, will I file I485 also or not required?
    You have already filed for 485. So need to amend the existing petition with new 140 info. No need to file new one. Please ask your lawyer about this. I am not a lawyer and this is based on what I knw

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    Quote Originally Posted by iatiam View Post
    You have already filed for 485. So need to amend the existing petition with new 140 info. No need to file new one. Please ask your lawyer about this. I am not a lawyer and this is based on what I know
    Thank you iatiam. If anyone has more info on EB2I to EB3I down-porting with different employer, please share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idliman View Post
    Thank you iatiam. If anyone has more info on EB2I to EB3I down-porting with different employer, please share.
    I am looking for answer in months.

    Question) approximately how many months "range" will it take to get green card if you were to downgrade your application from EB2i to eb3i. Assuming everything is clean and the priority date is current?

    Answer). Months= ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordfish380 View Post
    I am looking for answer in months.

    Question) approximately how many months "range" will it take to get green card if you wear to downgrade your application from EB2i to eb3i. Assuming everything is clean and the priority date is current?

    Answer). Months= ?
    The downgrading of EB2I to EB3I for people at end of 2009 and beginning of 2010 makes sense only with I140 premium. For that you need to be with the same employer who did the PERM for you. I am hoping that they will still allow concurrent I140+I485 one year from now (there is a proposed rule to change that).

    Looking at 3 months movement per year for EB2I in 2009 and till May 2010, if EB3I is ahead by three months, it is still worth a "chance". However, the safest way is to do the porting only when the FAD is current and not based on DF. My 2c. HTH.

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