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    Visa Bulletin

    What happened to Visa Bulletin? Looks like they are still crunching the numbers.

    Gurus, any predictions?

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    The October 2017 VB has been published. https://travel.state.gov/content/vis...ober-2017.html

    EB1

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    EB2-I

    Final Action Date - 15SEP08
    Filing Date - 08FEB09

    EB3-I

    Final Action Date - 15OCT06
    Filing Date - 01JAN08

    From the VB:

    F. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE COMING MONTHS

    FAMILY-sponsored categories (potential monthly movement)

    Worldwide dates:

    F1: Up to several months
    F2A: Up to one month
    F2B: Up to one month
    F3: Three or four weeks
    F4: Two or three weeks

    EMPLOYMENT-based categories (potential monthly movement)

    Employment First: The category will remain “Current”.

    Employment Second:

    Worldwide: Current

    China: Up to four weeks

    India: Up to one month

    Employment Third:

    Worldwide: Current

    China: Up to four months

    India: Limited forward movement

    Mexico: Current

    Philippines: Up to two months

    Employment Fourth: Current for most countries.

    El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras: Up to three weeks

    Mexico: some forward movement

    Employment Fifth: The category will remain “Current” for most countries.

    China-mainland born: Up to one week

    The above final action date projections for the Family and Employment categories indicate what is likely to happen on a monthly basis through January based on current applicant demand patterns. Readers should never assume that recent trends in final action date movements are guaranteed for the future, or that "corrective" action will not be required at some point in an effort to maintain number use within the applicable annual limits. The determination of the actual monthly final action dates is subject to fluctuations in applicant demand and a number of other variables.
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    EB3-I Filing Date - 01JAN08
    EB3-I Final Action Date - 15OCT06

    Finally EB3-I is in uncharted territory. Much needed good news for them. Hopefully the kids haven't aged out for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idliman View Post
    EB3-I Filing Date - 01JAN08
    EB3-I Final Action Date - 15OCT06

    Finally EB3-I is in uncharted territory. Much needed good news for them. Hopefully the kids haven't aged out for some.
    This essentially gives some people an opportunity to file I-485 applications in EB3I. Is this a correct assessment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyruss View Post
    This essentially gives some people an opportunity to file I-485 applications in EB3I. Is this a correct assessment?
    Yes. I believe the USCIS accepts the filing dates in the first quarter (For example in Oct 2016). So we have to wait and see the USCIS website below.
    https://www.uscis.gov/visabulletininfo

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    Thanks Spec! Are you surprised by prediction/expectation that EB2-I would move up to 1 month until January? Frankly I am little bit surprised (on +ve side). Better year ahead for EB2-I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by idliman View Post
    Yes. I believe the USCIS accepts the filing dates in the first quarter (For example in Oct 2016). So we have to wait and see the USCIS website below.
    https://www.uscis.gov/visabulletininfo
    Do we expect anyone to waiting for filing their in EB3 for 10+ years and not port to EB2 already?
    Guru's are we expecting any filings and if yes how many for EB3I between those 2006 and 2008 years?

    I am thinking that should be very minimal numbers as all of them would have qualified for 5+ years of work ex and would have been eligible for EB2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srimurthy View Post
    Do we expect anyone to waiting for filing their in EB3 for 10+ years and not port to EB2 already?
    Guru's are we expecting any filings and if yes how many for EB3I between those 2006 and 2008 years?

    I am thinking that should be very minimal numbers as all of them would have qualified for 5+ years of work ex and would have been eligible for EB2.
    For EB3, based on 2007 July-Aug Inventory, my guess is 200 people per month in mid 2007 to 2008 End waiting to file without porting to EB2.

    I am hoping for EB2 & EB3 to have same priority date by Final Quarter of 2018. Hope Apr 2018 bulletin (2nd half of 2018) will have revised and more positive forecast. We need at least 12K-16K between EB2 & EB3 to see good movement in the dates.

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    Hi Spec / All,

    I am in EB3I and my priority date is September 2007. I am working with the same employer for the past 10+ years. Assuming USCIS accepts the filing dates - I may be able to file for AOS on October 1st.

    My H1 extension is currently in progress and my I-94 end date is September 25, 2017. If USCIS accepts the filing dates, will I be able to apply for AOS or do I need to wait for my H1 extension to be approved before filing for AOS?

    Could you please share your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV2007 View Post
    Hi Spec / All,

    I am in EB3I and my priority date is September 2007. I am working with the same employer for the past 10+ years. Assuming USCIS accepts the filing dates - I may be able to file for AOS on October 1st.

    My H1 extension is currently in progress and my I-94 end date is September 15, 2017. If USCIS accepts the filing dates, will I be able to apply for AOS or do I need to wait for my H1 extension to be approved before filing for AOS?

    Could you please share your thoughts?
    You do not have to wait for H1 approval. I did file my 485 while H1B extension is pending in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelabel View Post
    You do not have to wait for H1 approval. I did file my 485 while H1B extension is pending in 2012.
    Thank you very much.

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    It's sad that filing dates are not accepted this month. Being the first month of the financial year, I was hopeful that filing dates will be accepted but not everything goes as per our expectation.

    Spec / YTEleven / Guru's - Would you think filing dates will be accepted in the coming bulletins or do we need to wait for final action dates only going forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV2007 View Post
    It's sad that filing dates are not accepted this month. Being the first month of the financial year, I was hopeful that filing dates will be accepted but not everything goes as per our expectation.
    Per April 2017 inventory (if it is still to be trusted) there are still 3000+ EB3I pending in queue from Oct 2016 to July 2017. So CO does not need to build inventory immediately. Even though it affects people who can file for EAD's immediately, in the longer run this may help. The immigration game is so complicated that sometime when we think it is going to affect us, it may help. So we should stay positive.

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    H-1B and EAD status question

    Hi Spec and other gurus,

    I have an important question to ask. Is working on EAD part time for a second employer voids one's H-1B status with the primary employer? Or has it no impact on the H-1B status? In case if H-1B is void, can it be reinstated by the primary employer by filing for extension? Is it allowed? Also, can you please point me to some official web link or a lawyer's opinion on this matter? Thanks in advance!

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    Dear Members,
    I am a recently joined member and need input on prediction of my priority date.

    Mine is EB2 India .. Nov 3. 2010. Please advise.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by vedu View Post
    Hi Spec and other gurus,

    I have an important question to ask. Is working on EAD part time for a second employer voids one's H-1B status with the primary employer? Or has it no impact on the H-1B status? In case if H-1B is void, can it be reinstated by the primary employer by filing for extension? Is it allowed? Also, can you please point me to some official web link or a lawyer's opinion on this matter? Thanks in advance!
    vedu,

    Unfortunately, there is no simple answer to this question.

    The conventional wisdom (and safest interpretation) is that using an EAD for part time work will cause the person to lose H1B status, since the H1B only authorizes the person to work for the H1B sponsoring company.

    In 2008, AILA put the case to USCIS (link [Item 24 and Addendum III]) that "moonlighting" using an EAD should not terminate the H1B status.

    The USCIS reply was that they would "take this matter under advisement" (i.e. they would think about it). To my knowledge, USCIS has never made any further statement on the matter since that date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altek001 View Post
    Dear Members,
    I am a recently joined member and need input on prediction of my priority date.

    Mine is EB2 India .. Nov 3. 2010. Please advise.

    Thanks

    This is my opinion and gut feeling... Others may disagree:

    Assuming there is no legislative relief or any major Spillover -

    You can file 485/EAD around Oct 2020. Get Green card in hand around 2023-2025.

    Note: My PD is around your date.

    Free advice: Forget about green card and focus on other important things in life..

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    Quote Originally Posted by skpanda View Post
    This is my opinion and gut feeling... Others may disagree:

    Assuming there is no legislative relief or any major Spillover -

    You can file 485/EAD around Oct 2020. Get Green card in hand around 2023-2025.

    Note: My PD is around your date.

    Free advice: Forget about green card and focus on other important things in life..


    Thank you for your response. I was wondering if you possiblly had data to back up your estimation of filing 485 around oct 2020.

    This is a generic question to all members reading this forum....."DACA is getting a lot of attention in media and by chuck grassley report about 40K from the 800K daca recipients received green card and 1000 became US citizens. These were illegals to begin with and started DACA process in 2012.

    We have been waiting very long with no end in sight and the dates keep getting back and forth as its a play game.

    what should be we doing seriously to make our voices heard? Its time to think and act differently.Yoder on the house floor asking to remove per country cap is not going to work as a few congressmen put the same rhetoric in the year 2010
    "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    vedu,

    Unfortunately, there is no simple answer to this question.

    The conventional wisdom (and safest interpretation) is that using an EAD for part time work will cause the person to lose H1B status, since the H1B only authorizes the person to work for the H1B sponsoring company.

    In 2008, AILA put the case to USCIS (link [Item 24 and Addendum III]) that "moonlighting" using an EAD should not terminate the H1B status.

    The USCIS reply was that they would "take this matter under advisement" (i.e. they would think about it). To my knowledge, USCIS has never made any further statement on the matter since that date.
    Spec,

    Thank you for your response and the link. My own research also led me to similar conclusion that this is a gray area. It is at least comforting to know that the USCIS did not explicitly reject AILA's opinion in its response. I believe a new H-1B renewal once approved will put the matter to rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asankaran View Post
    That is important data point we have now. Unfortunately for EB2I, it looks like there is no getting out of 2009 this year , but good year ahead for EB3I.

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    It's a shame the Philippines data is missing from the Inventory data.
    By process of subtraction, the derived figures would be:

    Country -------- EB1 ---- EB2 ---- EB3 ---- EW ---- EB4 ---- EB5 ---- Total
    Philippines -- 4,424 -- 1,239 -- 1,247 ---- 60 ----- 78 ------ 1 ---- 7,049

    This compares to the following figures for April 2017:

    Country -------- EB1 ---- EB2 ---- EB3 ---- EW ---- EB4 ---- EB5 ---- Total
    Philippines ---- 177 -- 1,141 -- 2,384 ---- 83 ----- 57 ------ 0 ---- 3,842

    The difference in the EB1 figure stands out. It is a factor bigger than EB1-Philippines has ever been before (generally under 200), so the authenticity must be doubtful.

    Edit: Definitely something screwy with the EB1 figures. Subtractions give Philippines 3.4k EB1 cases in 2007/2008 and some months /years have negative values. That calls into question whether the 60.3k total EB1 cases is correct.

    Fed up of the sloppiness USCIS has shown recently towards the Inventory figures!!
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    No one else other than the Indians or Chinese to some extend care about the inventory numbers. It is a surprise in itself that they actually released something. At this point, USCIS derives sadistic pleasure that we simply collect all the bread crumbs they throw at us.

    Also, under Trump administration, this is the first time that USCIS is not accepting Filing Dates even for the Oct VB. Lives of legal immigrants waiting in line will only get harder from now on. The anti-immigrants are finally empowered. They are following their agenda - "Make lives of those waiting in line legally so that even they will eventually get frustrated and leave".

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...k-in-us-report

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    It really is a sight to behold. Its as if there is no due diligence, no oversight, no fact checking in USCIS. How can a large, well funded organization even throw out data which is clearly wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
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    Fed up of the sloppiness USCIS has shown recently towards the Inventory figures!!
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