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Thread: EB2-3 Predictions (Rather Calculations) 2015-2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieur View Post
    we all are here coz we are from backlogged country (majority from India) but keep in mind when CO discuss these things in AILA settings then he is talking about general trends for all categories and not just 1 or 2 country. Based on past check-in I feel EB-5 gets good representation coz of their resource i.e money they have to influence. Just like in any field.

    What I took from this check-in is that CO says ROW will not be able to use their quota and if he tries to advance date for new I-485 then there is no processing capacity (Interview, bio-metric etc) so chance of 25K visa wastage is possible. He will be diverting these ROW numbers to EB[1-2]-IC and see how many they can use based on low hanging fruit of renewing security and medical checks. CO has advanced EB1-I by 11 months and EB2-I by whole month hoping to clear as many application he can. If these advancement doesn't generate enough demand, advancement will accelrate, if he gets good demand, these will slow down. But good chance there will be visa wastage, but I don't expect 25k will be puff....

    Because of inherent bias EB1 will get preferential treatment then EB2 and then EB3 but we are aware of this pecking order since day-1. In general EB1 candidate has better credential then other 2 so govt agency will prefer those candidate over others. Same for EB5 candidates (see my 1st para last line)

    Does it sucks to loose visa number - YES, can we do anything about it with this admin policy - afaik NO but I am open to hear suggestion and act on it.
    That is a good and different way of interpreting it! Well laid out

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsieur View Post
    we all are here coz we are from backlogged country (majority from India) but keep in mind when CO discuss these things in AILA settings then he is talking about general trends for all categories and not just 1 or 2 country. Based on past check-in I feel EB-5 gets good representation coz of their resource i.e money they have to influence. Just like in any field.

    What I took from this check-in is that CO says ROW will not be able to use their quota and if he tries to advance date for new I-485 then there is no processing capacity (Interview, bio-metric etc) so chance of 25K visa wastage is possible. He will be diverting these ROW numbers to EB[1-2]-IC and see how many they can use based on low hanging fruit of renewing security and medical checks. CO has advanced EB1-I by 11 months and EB2-I by whole month hoping to clear as many application he can. If these advancement doesn't generate enough demand, advancement will accelrate, if he gets good demand, these will slow down. But good chance there will be visa wastage, but I don't expect 25k will be puff....

    Because of inherent bias EB1 will get preferential treatment then EB2 and then EB3 but we are aware of this pecking order since day-1. In general EB1 candidate has better credential then other 2 so govt agency will prefer those candidate over others. Same for EB5 candidates (see my 1st para last line)

    Does it sucks to loose visa number - YES, can we do anything about it with this admin policy - afaik NO but I am open to hear suggestion and act on it.
    If there is sufficient pre-adjudicated cases, will they not spill over unused visa number to categories where there are pre-adjudicated cases, before visa number are wasted ? So having a back log of pre-adjudicated cases, and at the same time wasting visa numbers does not seem to make sense. I dont see the point in having separate "filing date", and final action dates, if visas still go wasted. As i saw it, the whole point of this two-date system was to have a back-log of pre-adjudicated cases, so that numbers are not wasted in a situation such as this. Do any of you know what the benefit of having these two dates is, if we still end up wasting visa numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabp77 View Post
    If there is sufficient pre-adjudicated cases, will they not spill over unused visa number to categories where there are pre-adjudicated cases, before visa number are wasted ? So having a back log of pre-adjudicated cases, and at the same time wasting visa numbers does not seem to make sense. I dont see the point in having separate "filing date", and final action dates, if visas still go wasted. As i saw it, the whole point of this two-date system was to have a back-log of pre-adjudicated cases, so that numbers are not wasted in a situation such as this. Do any of you know what the benefit of having these two dates is, if we still end up wasting visa numbers?
    Exactly. As per my understanding, as long as EB1I is backlogged there will not be any vertical SO to EB2 no matter how many pre-adjudicated cased EB2 have. Am I correct?

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    July monthly check in with CO. He's stating there could be 25K visas wasted in FY 20 in EB category. And, FY21 EB count could be over 200K.


    Visa Bulletin Predictions for Employment-Based Preference Categories
    EB-1 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico Philippines and Vietnam) remains current in July and should remain so through the end of this fiscal year.

    In July, the final action date for EB-1 China advances one week from August 15, 2017 to August 22, 2017. There are currently almost 2,000 EB-1 China adjustment of status (AOS) cases pending at USCIS. EB-1 India again advances significantly, moving forward eleven months from June 8, 2016 to May 8, 2017.

    This rapid advancement is made possible by the infusion of otherwise unused numbers falling up from EB-5 and the lack of significant EB-1 Worldwide demand. Charlie is consulting with USCIS regarding their processing capacity and to determine how much of the outstanding demand is close to completion in order to understand what can realistically be approved before the end of the fiscal year.

    EB-2 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico, Philippines, and Vietnam) remains current in July and should do so through FY2020. EB-2 China advancement slows to one week, moving modestly from November 1, 2015 to November 8, 2015. In contrast, EB-2 India advances more rapidly by three weeks, from June 12, 2009 to July 8, 2009. As with EB-1 China and EB-1 India, there is a significant amount of pre-adjudicated demand in these categories and relatively low rest of world demand.

    EB-2 China and EB-2 India will certainly exceed their per country limits this year. The open question is how close the EB-2 category will be to reaching its worldwide limits.

    EB-3 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico, Philippines, and Vietnam) and EB-3 Worldwide Other Workers (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico, Philippines, and Vietnam) which advanced more than ten months in June, advances at a significant yet slower five month pace in July 2020 from November 8, 2017 to April 15, 2018.

    Similar to EB-1 India, there is a large amount of pre-adjudicated demand in EB-3 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico, Philippines, and Vietnam), making it more reliable that the advancements will result in visa issuances this fiscal year. However, as also noted above, this category is much closer to reaching its annual limit than the other categories.

    EB-3 China advancement slows to one week in July from June 15, 2016 to June 22, 2016. EB-3 China Other Workers starts to advance again in July by one week from July 15, 2008 to July 22, 2008. As EB-2 China and EB-3 China both advance by one week in July, the spread between them remains the same, with EB-3 China’s final action date holding at 7.5 months ahead of EB-2 China. EB-3 India and EB-3 India Other Workers both advance two months in July from April 1, 2009 to June 1, 2009.

    EB-4 Worldwide (including China, India, Philippines, and Vietnam) remains current in July. EB-4 El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras advances 1.5 months from December 15, 2016 to February 1, 2017 and is likely to hold at this date through the remainder of the fiscal year. EB-4 Mexico advances one week–from June 8, 2018 to June 15, 2018. Members should continue to watch EB-4 Mexico for potential movement. It is too early to predict what will happen in the remaining months of FY2020.

    EB-5 India (Regional and Non-Regional Centers) becomes current in July and will remain so through FY2020. EB-5 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico and Philippines), Regional and Non-Regional Centers, remains current in July and will remain so through this fiscal year as well. EB-5 China (Regional and Non-Regional Centers) advances one week in July from July 15, 2015 to July 22, 2015. EB-5 Vietnam (Regional and Non-Regional Centers) advances three weeks in July from April 22, 2017 to May 15, 2017.

    Visa Bulletin Predictions – Q & A
    QUESTION: In last month’s Check In, Charlie said that “it is unlikely that the employment-based limit will be reached in FY2020.” If that is the case, why is Charlie not accelerating the Visa Bulletin with the hope of attracting as many approvals as possible?

    ANSWER: That is exactly what I am doing, but I have to do so within reason based on processing capacity, and not strictly for the sake of movement with no reasonable expectation of actual number use.

    Processing capacity at both consular posts and USCIS is diminished due to the pandemic. Currently, immigrant visa processing at consular posts abroad is limited to “mission critical” processing, which is defined at the discretion of the post and which is often limited to adjudicating cases based on compelling reasons, such as age-outs.

    Immigrant visa processing at USCIS has also been constrained due to the pandemic, but their capacity has been much greater than that of the consular posts. For example, in May 2020, USCIS used over 3,600 numbers across the employment-based first and second preference categories. This contrasts with number usage in excess of 6,000 for the same categories in May 2019.

    The premise that dramatically advancing the Final Action Dates will result in full (or closer to full) number usage is flawed. The agencies’ (and State’s) diminished processing capacity makes it unreasonable to expect that an even more accelerated advancement in the Final Action Dates would increase actual number usage this fiscal year. Additionally, such abrupt movements would likely result in corrective action in the form of retrogression, which should be avoided.

    The good news is that there is currently a significant amount of pre-adjudicated demand in EB-1 China, EB-1 India, EB-2 China and EB-2 India that can reasonably be expected to be adjudicated despite the processing constraints. Many of these cases may only require renewed security checks to complete processing, and others may also require renewed medicals.

    Given USCIS’s potential processing capacity and the current status of these cases, it may be realistic to expect that USCIS will be able to finalize as many employment-based cases as its capacity allows. In contrast, while there is significant demand for EB-5 China numbers awaiting processing in Guangzhou, there is no pre-adjudicated pending demand for EB-5 China numbers at USCIS, and at this time USCIS’s data does not demonstrate significant USCIS demand for that category.

    There is no data to indicate the existence of significant EB-5 China USCIS demand that would warrant a more rapid advancement of the Final Action Date in this category. As it stands, this category has advanced much more rapidly than I would have thought possible earlier in the fiscal year. Last October, I expected the best case scenario for the FY2020 EB-5 China Final Action Date to reach March 8, 2015.

    However, I have been pleased that the data has subsequently supported advancing the date far into the summer to July 22, 2015. As there remains a significant amount of pending consular demand and no USCIS pending demand, sweeping advancements in this category are not supported by the data at this time. However, as the situation is constantly being monitored, future changes cannot be ruled out.

    Although many employment-based preference categories are unlikely to reach their annual limits, there are two categories which are close to doing so. When a final action date was imposed for EB-3 Worldwide earlier this fiscal year, it signaled that this category was close to reaching its annual limit. Given significant early number usage, the EB-3 and EB-4 categories are most likely among the various employment-based categories to reach their annual limits this fiscal year.

    QUESTION: Also, does he have an estimate as to how many visas they would be short in FY2020?

    ANSWER: The processing limitations resulting from the COVID-19 related issues continue to impact number use under the various numerically controlled visa annual limits. At this time, it is estimated that there could easily be 25,000 unused numbers under FY2020 employment-based annual limit. That estimate depends largely on the extent that processing is able to return to something approaching normal processing.

    Although we are unlikely to use all of the employment-based visa numbers this fiscal year given the current family-sponsored processing capacity, there is a silver lining. The law requires that the number of unused family-sponsored visas will be added to the FY2021 employment-based annual limit.

    Visa Bulletin Predictions Worldwide EB-3

    In FY2020, we already enjoyed the second highest employment-based annual limit in recent memory—156K, which places the current per country limit at almost 11K. I expect that in FY2021 there will be over 200K employment-based numbers available—which is the highest number I can recall ever having in a fiscal year–and which translates to a 14K per country limit—a 21.5% increase over FY2020.

    Effectively, any unused employment-based numbers in FY2020 will be more than compensated for next year, and assuming the pandemic subsides and processing returns to normal, these excess numbers will create the possibility of significant advancement in EB-1 China, EB-1 India and EB-5 China, as well as the possibility of EB-3 Worldwide becoming current. Keep in mind that the next fiscal year is just over 3 months away.

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    I don't know if I have to be sad about 25K visas wasted in FY 20 or getting more visas in FY 21. With USCIS reduced functioning, covid-19 and pent up interview demand, I have a feeling more EB visas will be wasted next year as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmys View Post
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    July monthly check in with CO. He's stating there could be 25K visas wasted in FY 20 in EB category. And, FY21 EB count could be over 200K.


    Visa Bulletin Predictions for Employment-Based Preference Categories
    EB-1 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico Philippines and Vietnam) remains current in July and should remain so through the end of this fiscal year.

    In July, the final action date for EB-1 China advances one week from August 15, 2017 to August 22, 2017. There are currently almost 2,000 EB-1 China adjustment of status (AOS) cases pending at USCIS. EB-1 India again advances significantly, moving forward eleven months from June 8, 2016 to May 8, 2017.

    This rapid advancement is made possible by the infusion of otherwise unused numbers falling up from EB-5 and the lack of significant EB-1 Worldwide demand. Charlie is consulting with USCIS regarding their processing capacity and to determine how much of the outstanding demand is close to completion in order to understand what can realistically be approved before the end of the fiscal year.

    EB-2 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico, Philippines, and Vietnam) remains current in July and should do so through FY2020. EB-2 China advancement slows to one week, moving modestly from November 1, 2015 to November 8, 2015. In contrast, EB-2 India advances more rapidly by three weeks, from June 12, 2009 to July 8, 2009. As with EB-1 China and EB-1 India, there is a significant amount of pre-adjudicated demand in these categories and relatively low rest of world demand.

    EB-2 China and EB-2 India will certainly exceed their per country limits this year. The open question is how close the EB-2 category will be to reaching its worldwide limits.

    EB-3 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico, Philippines, and Vietnam) and EB-3 Worldwide Other Workers (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico, Philippines, and Vietnam) which advanced more than ten months in June, advances at a significant yet slower five month pace in July 2020 from November 8, 2017 to April 15, 2018.

    Similar to EB-1 India, there is a large amount of pre-adjudicated demand in EB-3 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico, Philippines, and Vietnam), making it more reliable that the advancements will result in visa issuances this fiscal year. However, as also noted above, this category is much closer to reaching its annual limit than the other categories.

    EB-3 China advancement slows to one week in July from June 15, 2016 to June 22, 2016. EB-3 China Other Workers starts to advance again in July by one week from July 15, 2008 to July 22, 2008. As EB-2 China and EB-3 China both advance by one week in July, the spread between them remains the same, with EB-3 China’s final action date holding at 7.5 months ahead of EB-2 China. EB-3 India and EB-3 India Other Workers both advance two months in July from April 1, 2009 to June 1, 2009.

    EB-4 Worldwide (including China, India, Philippines, and Vietnam) remains current in July. EB-4 El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras advances 1.5 months from December 15, 2016 to February 1, 2017 and is likely to hold at this date through the remainder of the fiscal year. EB-4 Mexico advances one week–from June 8, 2018 to June 15, 2018. Members should continue to watch EB-4 Mexico for potential movement. It is too early to predict what will happen in the remaining months of FY2020.

    EB-5 India (Regional and Non-Regional Centers) becomes current in July and will remain so through FY2020. EB-5 Worldwide (including El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, Mexico and Philippines), Regional and Non-Regional Centers, remains current in July and will remain so through this fiscal year as well. EB-5 China (Regional and Non-Regional Centers) advances one week in July from July 15, 2015 to July 22, 2015. EB-5 Vietnam (Regional and Non-Regional Centers) advances three weeks in July from April 22, 2017 to May 15, 2017.

    Visa Bulletin Predictions – Q & A
    QUESTION: In last month’s Check In, Charlie said that “it is unlikely that the employment-based limit will be reached in FY2020.” If that is the case, why is Charlie not accelerating the Visa Bulletin with the hope of attracting as many approvals as possible?

    ANSWER: That is exactly what I am doing, but I have to do so within reason based on processing capacity, and not strictly for the sake of movement with no reasonable expectation of actual number use.

    Processing capacity at both consular posts and USCIS is diminished due to the pandemic. Currently, immigrant visa processing at consular posts abroad is limited to “mission critical” processing, which is defined at the discretion of the post and which is often limited to adjudicating cases based on compelling reasons, such as age-outs.

    Immigrant visa processing at USCIS has also been constrained due to the pandemic, but their capacity has been much greater than that of the consular posts. For example, in May 2020, USCIS used over 3,600 numbers across the employment-based first and second preference categories. This contrasts with number usage in excess of 6,000 for the same categories in May 2019.

    The premise that dramatically advancing the Final Action Dates will result in full (or closer to full) number usage is flawed. The agencies’ (and State’s) diminished processing capacity makes it unreasonable to expect that an even more accelerated advancement in the Final Action Dates would increase actual number usage this fiscal year. Additionally, such abrupt movements would likely result in corrective action in the form of retrogression, which should be avoided.

    The good news is that there is currently a significant amount of pre-adjudicated demand in EB-1 China, EB-1 India, EB-2 China and EB-2 India that can reasonably be expected to be adjudicated despite the processing constraints. Many of these cases may only require renewed security checks to complete processing, and others may also require renewed medicals.

    Given USCIS’s potential processing capacity and the current status of these cases, it may be realistic to expect that USCIS will be able to finalize as many employment-based cases as its capacity allows. In contrast, while there is significant demand for EB-5 China numbers awaiting processing in Guangzhou, there is no pre-adjudicated pending demand for EB-5 China numbers at USCIS, and at this time USCIS’s data does not demonstrate significant USCIS demand for that category.

    There is no data to indicate the existence of significant EB-5 China USCIS demand that would warrant a more rapid advancement of the Final Action Date in this category. As it stands, this category has advanced much more rapidly than I would have thought possible earlier in the fiscal year. Last October, I expected the best case scenario for the FY2020 EB-5 China Final Action Date to reach March 8, 2015.

    However, I have been pleased that the data has subsequently supported advancing the date far into the summer to July 22, 2015. As there remains a significant amount of pending consular demand and no USCIS pending demand, sweeping advancements in this category are not supported by the data at this time. However, as the situation is constantly being monitored, future changes cannot be ruled out.

    Although many employment-based preference categories are unlikely to reach their annual limits, there are two categories which are close to doing so. When a final action date was imposed for EB-3 Worldwide earlier this fiscal year, it signaled that this category was close to reaching its annual limit. Given significant early number usage, the EB-3 and EB-4 categories are most likely among the various employment-based categories to reach their annual limits this fiscal year.

    QUESTION: Also, does he have an estimate as to how many visas they would be short in FY2020?

    ANSWER: The processing limitations resulting from the COVID-19 related issues continue to impact number use under the various numerically controlled visa annual limits. At this time, it is estimated that there could easily be 25,000 unused numbers under FY2020 employment-based annual limit. That estimate depends largely on the extent that processing is able to return to something approaching normal processing.

    Although we are unlikely to use all of the employment-based visa numbers this fiscal year given the current family-sponsored processing capacity, there is a silver lining. The law requires that the number of unused family-sponsored visas will be added to the FY2021 employment-based annual limit.

    Visa Bulletin Predictions Worldwide EB-3

    In FY2020, we already enjoyed the second highest employment-based annual limit in recent memory—156K, which places the current per country limit at almost 11K. I expect that in FY2021 there will be over 200K employment-based numbers available—which is the highest number I can recall ever having in a fiscal year–and which translates to a 14K per country limit—a 21.5% increase over FY2020.

    Effectively, any unused employment-based numbers in FY2020 will be more than compensated for next year, and assuming the pandemic subsides and processing returns to normal, these excess numbers will create the possibility of significant advancement in EB-1 China, EB-1 India and EB-5 China, as well as the possibility of EB-3 Worldwide becoming current. Keep in mind that the next fiscal year is just over 3 months away.
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    Why is he sayin jus 14 K per country is he still
    going by the per country allocation and not making any forward looking statements on the horizontal SO chances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenzone View Post
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    Why is he sayin jus 14 K per country is he still
    going by the per country allocation and not making any forward looking statements on the horizontal SO chances?
    The 14k relates to the 7% per Country limit based on 200k EB visas being available in FY2021.

    200,000 * 7% = 14,000 per Country limit.

    EB1 ---- 4,004
    EB2 ---- 4,004
    EB3 ---- 4,004
    EB4 ------ 994
    EB5 ------ 994

    Total - 14,000

    Any horizontal SO would be in addition to that number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    The 14k relates to the 7% per Country limit based on 200k EB visas being available in FY2021.

    200,000 * 7% = 14,000 per Country limit.

    EB1 ---- 4,004
    EB2 ---- 4,004
    EB3 ---- 4,004
    EB4 ------ 994
    EB5 ------ 994

    Total - 14,000

    Any horizontal SO would be in addition to that number.
    Bottomline is accepting the fact that there will be visa wastage this fiscal and potentially next fiscal we should consider ourselves lucky if EB2 and EB3 clear even May 2010. That’s the present reality and probably the most optimistic scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenzone View Post
    Bottomline is accepting the fact that there will be visa wastage this fiscal and potentially next fiscal we should consider ourselves lucky if EB2 and EB3 clear even May 2010. That’s the present reality and probably the most optimistic scenario.
    You expect EB2 and EB3 to reach May 2010(if we get 60k SO from FB) by end of next FY even in optimistic scenario? I will do backflip if that happens.

  10. #6410
    What happens if the President extends the Apr 22 ban on FB consular green card processing further until Dec 2020? That increases the spill over further doesn’t it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EB32010 View Post
    You expect EB2 and EB3 to reach May 2010(if we get 60k SO from FB) by end of next FY even in optimistic scenario? I will do backflip if that happens.
    Ha! I assumed the ban is extended till end of this fiscal and simply allocated the potential 7% allocation. Thats’s all. Of course I assumed the wastage on. 7% is minimal (hence called it optimistic!).

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    The reason for the potential spillover is Covid and the reason for slow processing is also Covid. Does it not feel like these two will end up canceling out and we will still be in the same boat beginning next FY2021?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly View Post
    The reason for the potential spillover is Covid and the reason for slow processing is also Covid. Does it not feel like these two will end up canceling out and we will still be in the same boat beginning next FY2021?
    It could be very likely! CO is known to be conservative and add to that the shortage of resources on the USCIS side and the net result is dates not moving a lot. While we are all hoping for EB1-3 ROW to be current and expecting a massive SO, CO is thinking in a completely different way. It seems he will first move dates based on the bare minimum 7% allocation and then perhaps move the dates gradually which for sure will lead to visa wastage.

    The FB ban will get extended for the next 3 months and if that does happen, we are looking at 100K+ SO for EB. How will that apply and how much the dates will move is anyone's guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJMavarick View Post
    It could be very likely! CO is known to be conservative and add to that the shortage of resources on the USCIS side and the net result is dates not moving a lot. While we are all hoping for EB1-3 ROW to be current and expecting a massive SO, CO is thinking in a completely different way. It seems he will first move dates based on the bare minimum 7% allocation and then perhaps move the dates gradually which for sure will lead to visa wastage.

    The FB ban will get extended for the next 3 months and if that does happen, we are looking at 100K+ SO for EB. How will that apply and how much the dates will move is anyone's guess.
    Even if he allocates the 7% (adjusted for FB SO) you are talking about ~23K visas to play with. If that happens, I would consider that pretty optimistic. This also assumes all of horizontal SO is wasted.

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    CO can always move DOF , same way what he did in 2015. It will give us some confidence otherwise there is no light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenzone View Post
    Even if he allocates the 7% (adjusted for FB SO) you are talking about ~23K visas to play with. If that happens, I would consider that pretty optimistic. This also assumes all of horizontal SO is wasted.
    How did you come to 23K~ number? I consider the 7% as the bare minimum. If 100K SO then EBI1-3 will get ~ 4.8K minimum (7% of 240K and then 28.6% of the #). This is not considering the Horizontal or Vertical SO that EBI is slated to get considering EB1-2 ROW is current. Not to mention that EB3 ROW will also get current.

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    How can we ensure visa numbers are not wasted and allocated to backlogged countries? otherwise it will be a never ending chase.can we submit a request to AILA or USCIS or even DOS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJMavarick View Post
    How did you come to 23K~ number? I consider the 7% as the bare minimum. If 100K SO then EBI1-3 will get ~ 4.8K minimum (7% of 240K and then 28.6% of the #). This is not considering the Horizontal or Vertical SO that EBI is slated to get considering EB1-2 ROW is current. Not to mention that EB3 ROW will also get current.
    No matter what comes across the situation or reasoning can still be the same as this year, saying not enough resources to work and approve the GCs from USCIS. It is such a pity and sorry state of affairs that even when we have so many years backlog and also so many filed applications we still see a lot of wastage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EB32010 View Post
    Exactly. As per my understanding, as long as EB1I is backlogged there will not be any vertical SO to EB2 no matter how many pre-adjudicated cased EB2 have. Am I correct?
    I dont believe so. EB1, EB2,EB3 will each get 28.6% of the spillover. If the spillover is 60,000 then each category will get 17160 green cards. Of that number, each country gets 7%(or 1200 odd). If EB2ROW is current, then that entire 17160 would come to EB2I plus the regular quota of 2800 green cards for the calendar year. If EB3ROW becomes current, then EB3I being the most backlogged gets the rest from EB3Row. EB1 will get the vertical spill over from EB4 and EB5 if they are not used. If EB1 is current as well, then the spillover will fall to EB2.

  20. #6420
    Quote Originally Posted by 1312011_eb2I View Post
    How can we ensure visa numbers are not wasted and allocated to backlogged countries? otherwise it will be a never ending chase.can we submit a request to AILA or USCIS or even DOS?
    One way is to talk to CO to understand his reasoning and present EB viewpoints. He already participates in AILA check-ins and IIUSA EB-5 webinars.

    So either join AILA check-ins or create some EB event where he is invited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by android09 View Post
    I dont believe so. EB1, EB2,EB3 will each get 28.6% of the spillover. If the spillover is 60,000 then each category will get 17160 green cards. Of that number, each country gets 7%(or 1200 odd). If EB2ROW is current, then that entire 17160 would come to EB2I plus the regular quota of 2800 green cards for the calendar year. If EB3ROW becomes current, then EB3I being the most backlogged gets the rest from EB3Row. EB1 will get the vertical spill over from EB4 and EB5 if they are not used. If EB1 is current as well, then the spillover will fall to EB2.
    10,000*28.6%*7% = 200.2 visas.
    For regular annual cap of 140,000, EB1I / EB2I & EB3I each gets 2802.8 visas.
    For 60,000 spillover, total is 200,000; EB1I / EB2I / EB3I each gets 4004 visas.
    Every 10,000 additional spillover adds 200.2 visas.

  22. #6422
    My PD is now current in the July 2020 bulletin (EB2-I). I filed my I-485 (along with medicals) back in Sept 2015 and have been with same employer and have been working on EAD/AP since. What should I expect next? I have been told that I may not have to go for an interview. However, I will need to re-submit my medicals. How long till I get the precious GC in hand?

  23. #6423
    No interview, yes for medical, might still get a 485-Supp-J request. Once you respond to the RFE - and assuming you are still current then (you should be) - I would expect 4-8 weeks after that.

    Quote Originally Posted by adisaraf View Post
    My PD is now current in the July 2020 bulletin (EB2-I). I filed my I-485 (along with medicals) back in Sept 2015 and have been with same employer and have been working on EAD/AP since. What should I expect next? I have been told that I may not have to go for an interview. However, I will need to re-submit my medicals. How long till I get the precious GC in hand?
    EB2I NSC | PD: 08/07/2009 | Forum Glossary

  24. #6424
    does anyone know the exact details of how FB to EB spillover works in theory or as in law?

    does the total unused number from previous year, gets equally distributed to all EB categories at the beginning of next year?

  25. #6425
    Quote Originally Posted by usvisas View Post
    does anyone know the exact details of how FB to EB spillover works in theory or as in law?

    does the total unused number from previous year, gets equally distributed to all EB categories at the beginning of next year?
    https://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showt...ll=1#post62399

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