Yes that's PERMs, so should it be multiply by dependents( *2.5) to get the actual demand.Originally Posted by AceMan
Yes that's PERMs, so should it be multiply by dependents( *2.5) to get the actual demand.
The list of approved 140's back in April 2018 (https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...r_May_2018.PDF) specifies the dependent demand as 1.0 and 1.1 for EB2 and 3 respectively.
They have used https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-stat...ok/2016/table7 as reference.
We can see over the next few bulletins if my theory got any base or not.
Gurus,
Any estimation on when the EB3 I dates move beyond May 2010? Any possibility to happen that this FY? My PD is May 27th 2010 EB2I and i'm willing to downgrade to file I-485 and have the EAD.
Old P.D : 07/08/2008 (Lost), New P.D : 05/27/2010; I-485 RD: 10/19/2020; I-485 ND:11/07/2020; I-765/I-131 RD: 10/27/2020;EAD Approval 04/09/2021; I485 Interview held on: 08/09/2021; FO: Dallas; I-485 Approved: 08/20/2021; I-485 J Approved: 08/24/2021;
I hope to receive some advise from some knowledgeable folks here. My PD is EB2I 5/5/2010yep missed it by that much. No worries though, it is what it is and there are more important things in life going on! My wife will be eligible for EB1B sometime in Spring 2021 so we are in wait and watch mode whether to downgrade to EB3I if the FAD crosses mine. Does it make sense to port down with just DF for EB3 or wait until FAD crosses over? Is there any advantage like getting early in line by using DF? Are there any drawbacks to using DF in EB3 when the original petition is EB2?
Sorry, that's a lot of questions so thanks in advance for your time! It would be great to collect the answers and do a flow chart so that people can plug in their case and determine the best option to move forward
EB3 I forward movement after April 2010 will most probably happen in the last quarter.
AceMan - By April 2010 in your above post, you mean 1 Apr 2010 or 30 Apr 2010? My PD is 28 Apr 2010 in EB3-India and I am expecting atleast my filing date would get current in April visa bulletin (not sure though if USCIS respect that or not) . What is your opinion now for the same after Feb 2019 visa bulletin predictions?
Thanks
My understanding and predictions
1. EB3I Date of Filing (DF) was moved till Apr 2010 to coincide with EB2I I485 pending inventory. Maybe they received 3K I485 filings and did not move DF in Feb bulletin.
2. In Early part of Q3 i.e Apr, EB3I Date of Filing will be moved based on anticipated Spillover i.e 3K based on previous years. I estimate 2-3 months movement assuming 1200-1300 new EB3I I485 filings.
3. Till End of Q3 i.e May, EB3I Final Action (FA) will moved to date which can accommodate yearly quota of 3K visas
Below comment in the Bulletin gives me hope that EB3ROW demand is less and we might get more than 6K visas allotted to EB3I in FY19.
**Philippines: Rapid movement to generate demand.**
I am talking about Final Action Dates. Filing dates, they mentioned will not be respecting from Feb. However the final dates did not move for any category, and USCIS might be accepting it for Feb 2019 also.
Unlike EB2, EB3 is not having enough demand this FY. It has enough signs to move all the way through to 1st May 2010 and all the people who are downgrading already had a prior EB3 petitions.
Will the move to 1st May 2010 happen in the June bulletin or July bulletin? I expect it to stay there for the rest of the year as there is reasonable demand.
Where would the Filing Date land? I was expecting the FAD to progress further because of the spill overs that would be applied.
They don't plan to use filing date anymore for this FY is what I am sensing. If we end up this FY with 1st May 2010 for EB3, I expect them to set the filing date to 1st April 2011 for October 2019. Philippines movement is the key for EB3 I to get beyond the current limit.
I would like to be positive. However with no clarity on total number between May 2010 to June 2011. It seems little challenging. I am assuming there are around 30K (EB2 and EB3) petitions between May 2010 and June 2011. With dependents it would be around 60K, and with around 10k applications per year, it will be about 6 years. That is not considering the 15K application there are there till May 2010. So very confused with so many different views
I agree with you .. 100%, can one of the guru's please tell us why his assumption is not right ...
If we have an Immigration deal done in the next week or two, all our 'predictions' will go for toss fellas..
Sen. Lisa Murkowski said a broader immigration deal is “clearly in the mix” as is a broader agreement on federal spending levels.
That's a pipe dream. It's good to be positive. But nothing has been pas several years. We can be optimistic but face the reality of the situation/mess we are in
The indications are all pointing to something brewing on the immigration front, the Liar-in-Chief saying some un-intelligible crap about H1B Visa holders, then Sen. Mancin pitching the CIR and now Sen Lisa coming out with her statement..this time it will be totally different from all the long drawn IV advocacy campaigns. A deal will be made and quickly passed before anyone knows what is in the Bill..
Aceman - I was shocked to read these dependent ratios first time. Then I realized what these were. They are for ALL countries.
A typical person from ROW or even other countries has wait of 2-3 years most and has just finished his Masters - files for GC while he is single.
So the overall numbers are skewed.
In my view dependent demand for India are what we normally know - 2.2 to 2.5
You are right to be apprehensive. One has to look at EB2 wait over last 6-7 years to realize how slow things can get. Barring a change in law or extraordinary spillovers the great CRAWL would continue.
Guys, wanted to know what you think about EB2 to EB3 downgrade for someone with EB2 priority date in late May 2009 (mine is May 26th 2009). Do you think is it worth it? I am thinking of this as EB2 dates are barely moving while EB3 dates are jumping in months.
Not worth it, it might take few more months. Why take chances, who knows what complications come out in downgrade process
There is a very strong possibility of EB1-3 moving into May 2010 till year (at the minimum Filing dates)
Question is should you downgrade your application. I work for a very large American consulting company and we have between 5k to 10k people in the GC queue.
Our attorneys are completely reluctant to the idea of downgrading post May-2010, leave the cases where people have EAD and between April-09-Apr-10.
We had series of meetings with them and they said unless things get better, its too big of a risk. I know a lot of us think downgrading is the best opinion. frankly even I think so. But they said they feel in the current political scenario, its not recommended to touch change things. They spoke about possibility of rules getting into place for this porting discouraging porting.
Any way to know how many EB3I folks waiting with PD APR 2009 - DEC 2009?
When the latest pending inventory was published, folks with PD APR 2009 - DEC 2009 in EB3I were not able to submit I-485.
Why do most of the gurus/experts think there are not many people with EB3I Priority Date in 2009?
Because they would have ported to EB2.
I don't think that most of them who upgraded to EB2 (with PD in 2009) have EADs and now they can file I-485 using EB3 I-140. Is this scenario under estimated ?
It can also mean that many of the Indian 140 filers are spouses with their own petition.
A few employers will be ready to reduce your GC time line from Years to Months by allowing downgrades.
Otherwise it will be a future threat to their business as you will have your own priorities/plans after getting the GC.
Unless you show a threat right now by moving to your old employer who will be ready to file I485 with old I140 (if you have one).
That's about Employer's community behavior.
For Big Lawyers it will be a onetime business to file downgrades but they loose regular future income as these guys gets greened hence they can say every reason to block it.
For small Lawyers they have a huge learning curve in downgrades and fear of RFEs due to current environment.
All in all this downgrades will not happen and hence the percentage factor I fixed is 25% (1 in 4).
It will take at least 2020 to get this settled by that time EB3I dates can swing to 2013 or even further into future.
I still emphasis that the EB3-I queue is a sparsely filled (almost empty) queue for my calculations.
This wait game has become a billion dollar industry now. Every one will resist for downgrades.
Imagine that these EB2India applicants alone can fund the border wall if there is a onetime fee asked for the faster GC.
Statistically, this can't be compared to China downgrades as their applicants size is just 10% of Indian applicants size.
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