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  1. #3876
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    Interesting document: gives us some insight on how TSC works.

    CHAMPS: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fi...cis_champs.pdf
    Green card approved on 6/28/2021
    EB2-India; PD 2/10/2010; I-485 RD 3/22/2012 at TSC; RFE received 05/08/21: I-693 (Medical), "Job Offer Letter", and Biographic info (G-352A). RFE response received by USCIS 6/4/21; Officer # XM2027

  2. #3877
    Quote Originally Posted by LightAtEndOfTunnel View Post
    From the data that I have seen (for over hundreds of downgrade applicants) in my company and through various trackers on forums, almost everyone is assigned to Nebraska.
    OP says the receipt starts with SRC, so I guess his application is not being processed by Nebraska. If USCIS decides to change the service center OP should get a notice informing him of the change in center.

  3. #3878
    Quote Originally Posted by gammaray View Post
    All applications go to a lockbox for initial processing and then are assigned to a service center. Only lockboxes that I-140 based I-485 applications go to (depending on the State of residence) are Dallas and Phoenix. And *I think* all downgrade applications go to Phoenix. Not sure how yours went to Nebraska. In any case since the receipts starts SRC they are being processed by the Texas Service Center. Anecdotally, it appears SRC is the slowest processing applications so not much to do except wait.
    Huh? Nothing goes to Phoenix. Lincoln, Nebraska or Texas depending on where applicant is located.

  4. #3879
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    Quote Originally Posted by abcx13 View Post
    Huh? Nothing goes to Phoenix. Lincoln, Nebraska or Texas depending on where applicant is located.
    Is there a way to infer if your application is either with lockbox or TX service center ? The receipt number is SRC 21901 2XXXX?
    SRC; EB2 -> EB3; I-140 approved ; PD 06/2013; RD 11/05/2020; BM -- Sep '2021; EAD 03/22; I-485 Xferr NBC -- 04/25

  5. #3880
    Quote Originally Posted by abcx13 View Post
    Huh? Nothing goes to Phoenix. Lincoln, Nebraska or Texas depending on where applicant is located.
    That is incorrect information. There is no lockbox in Nebraska. It's a service center. As I said, the applications for employment based I-485's go to a lockbox first. Phoenix, AZ or Lewisville, TX. Third one is in Chicago but I believe it's for different applications.

  6. #3881
    Quote Originally Posted by rave79 View Post
    Is there a way to infer if your application is either with lockbox or TX service center ? The receipt number is SRC 21901 2XXXX?
    The lockbox is where the application is mailed and the function of a lockbox is to initially screen the application for completeness and scan and enter the information into the USCIS system. Once the application is in the system it's assigned to a service center for processing. The fact that a receipt is generated (with the serial number) means the application is now with the service center -- which in your case is the Texas Service center. Once the receipt is generated the lockbox has no role to play with the application.
    Last edited by gammaray; 06-22-2021 at 05:49 PM.

  7. #3882
    Quote Originally Posted by rave79 View Post
    Is there a way to infer if your application is either with lockbox or TX service center ? The receipt number is SRC 21901 2XXXX?
    I think the USCIS case status tracker website will tell you if your application is with Lockbox or service center.
    Last edited by LightAtEndOfTunnel; 06-22-2021 at 06:18 PM.
    NSC, EB2-I->EB3-I, PD:2/12, RD:11/4/20, ND:2/13/21, I-140(EB3):6/3/21, FP:7/16/21, I-693 (interfile): 7/22/21(delivered/no-ack), RFE(I-693):8/7/21, RFE-R: 8/10/21, EAD/AP: None, I-485 (Approved): 10/27/2021

  8. #3883
    Quote Originally Posted by LightAtEndOfTunnel View Post
    I think the USCIS case status checker will tell you if your application is with Lockbox or service center.
    Again, all the lockbox is doing is screening and logging in the application. It's not visible in any status updates which only happen when a receipt is generated, and by definition of the receipt number its with a service center at that point.

  9. #3884
    Quote Originally Posted by gammaray View Post
    Again, all the lockbox is doing is screening and logging in the application. It's not visible in any status updates which only happen when a receipt is generated, and by definition of the receipt number its with a service center at that point.
    How do the scrapers on Telegram group etc can tell numbers from LB or SC facilities ?
    NSC, EB2-I->EB3-I, PD:2/12, RD:11/4/20, ND:2/13/21, I-140(EB3):6/3/21, FP:7/16/21, I-693 (interfile): 7/22/21(delivered/no-ack), RFE(I-693):8/7/21, RFE-R: 8/10/21, EAD/AP: None, I-485 (Approved): 10/27/2021

  10. #3885
    Quote Originally Posted by LightAtEndOfTunnel View Post
    How do the scrapers on Telegram group etc can tell numbers from LB or SC facilities ?
    That would a question for them. I don't know the source or veracity of the data and how its presented and to me it makes no sense. There is no "MSC LB", MSC is only a service center. Similarly for others. I thought the difference between lockboxes and service centers and their functions was common knowledge.

    **Doing a quick search, the one scenario that an application goes directly to a service center is filing I-140 in premium processing. So maybe concurrent I-40/I-485 filings in premium go directly to the service center too? and the data presented using "MSC or LIN LB" and "LIN SC" is being used to distinguish between concurrent premium processing filings and all other regular filings. In any case LIN LB is a misnomer and is misleading.**
    Last edited by gammaray; 06-22-2021 at 07:16 PM.

  11. #3886
    Finally got the CPO email after 16+ years in this country. My center is TSC, physical card not received so it's not over until it's over.

    PD: March 30th, 2010
    485 Sent: March 5th, 2012
    RFE Date: May 27th , 2021
    RFER Date: June 16th, 2021
    Case Approved: June 22nd, 2021

  12. #3887
    Congratulations!! Was the recent RFE for medicals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gammaray View Post
    OP says the receipt starts with SRC, so I guess his application is not being processed by Nebraska. If USCIS decides to change the service center OP should get a notice informing him of the change in center.
    Fragomen does filings for our firm. All my previous applications also were submitted to Nebraska and I always had a LIN receipt number. This time, the applications were also submitted to Nebraska on 11/4. The receipt notices were generated on Feb 11 with SRC prefix - so I am guessing the applications were transferred from Nebraska to Texas, and hence the SRC receipts.

    I was also curious about how the Telegram groups were scraping data for LB and SC applications...clearly they know something that anyone on this forum doesn't! LB or SC, SRC has turned into a BB (black box).

  14. #3889
    Quote Originally Posted by SG2020 View Post
    Fragomen does filings for our firm. All my previous applications also were submitted to Nebraska and I always had a LIN receipt number. This time, the applications were also submitted to Nebraska on 11/4. The receipt notices were generated on Feb 11 with SRC prefix - so I am guessing the applications were transferred from Nebraska to Texas, and hence the SRC receipts.

    I was also curious about how the Telegram groups were scraping data for LB and SC applications...clearly they know something that anyone on this forum doesn't! LB or SC, SRC has turned into a BB (black box).
    How do previous filings have any bearing on an I-485 application? H1-b extensions, I-140's are filed directly to service Centers including Nebraska. And Nebraska is for premium processing applications. It's easy to find "Where to file" for what form on the USCIS website, so it's not really a debatable topic. And I maintain there is no Lockbox data, it's all service center, it may just be a designation used to differentiate between premium processing I-140 applications and all other applications (which are processed by the lockbox first).

    It's all a black box in the end, the trick is to just let the process play out.
    Last edited by gammaray; 06-22-2021 at 08:18 PM.

  15. #3890
    Quote Originally Posted by LightAtEndOfTunnel View Post
    How do the scrapers on Telegram group etc can tell numbers from LB or SC facilities ?
    They can tell them apart by the receipt number series.

  16. #3891
    Quote Originally Posted by SG2020 View Post
    This time, the applications were also submitted to Nebraska on 11/4. The receipt notices were generated on Feb 11 with SRC prefix - so I am guessing the applications were transferred from Nebraska to Texas, and hence the SRC receipts.

    .
    The receipt numbers don't change when cases are transferred. Most likely your case was submitted to Texas or Arizona lockbox, and then got assigned to Texas Service Center that issued you the receipt number, unless you filed concurrently with premium processing.

  17. #3892
    Quote Originally Posted by gammaray View Post
    That is incorrect information. There is no lockbox in Nebraska. It's a service center. As I said, the applications for employment based I-485's go to a lockbox first. Phoenix, AZ or Lewisville, TX. Third one is in Chicago but I believe it's for different applications.
    Sorry, yes, I just meant that there is no Phoenix service center.

  18. #3893
    Quote Originally Posted by gammaray View Post
    That would a question for them. I don't know the source or veracity of the data and how its presented and to me it makes no sense. There is no "MSC LB", MSC is only a service center. Similarly for others. I thought the difference between lockboxes and service centers and their functions was common knowledge.

    **Doing a quick search, the one scenario that an application goes directly to a service center is filing I-140 in premium processing. So maybe concurrent I-40/I-485 filings in premium go directly to the service center too? and the data presented using "MSC or LIN LB" and "LIN SC" is being used to distinguish between concurrent premium processing filings and all other regular filings. In any case LIN LB is a misnomer and is misleading.**
    Yes, that is correct on the I140+485 PP. They can tell LB or SC based on case reciept number. And LIN/SRC SC is basically just saying I140 PP with 485 at LIN or SRC.

  19. #3894
    Quote Originally Posted by SG2020 View Post
    Fragomen does filings for our firm. All my previous applications also were submitted to Nebraska and I always had a LIN receipt number. This time, the applications were also submitted to Nebraska on 11/4. The receipt notices were generated on Feb 11 with SRC prefix - so I am guessing the applications were transferred from Nebraska to Texas, and hence the SRC receipts.

    I was also curious about how the Telegram groups were scraping data for LB and SC applications...clearly they know something that anyone on this forum doesn't! LB or SC, SRC has turned into a BB (black box).
    I thought whether the cases get assigned to SRC or NSC had to do with where the applicant lives. Have you moved since your last filing?

  20. #3895
    Friends,

    I'm planning to take up a new offer using AOS EAD(It's been more than 6 months post I-485 application RD). I just want to make sure I cover all the bases before moving to this new position. New employer is just requesting EAD details and nothing else - is that all needed?

    Thank you!
    PD: EB2-I 2010 | Application Filed: Nov 4th 2020 | Finger Printing: 04/12/2021 | Medicals Interfiled - 06/02/2021 | I-485 Approved - 08/20/2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick2010 View Post
    Friends,

    I'm planning to take up a new offer using AOS EAD(It's been more than 6 months post I-485 application RD). I just want to make sure I cover all the bases before moving to this new position. New employer is just requesting EAD details and nothing else - is that all needed?

    Thank you!
    Since your date is current it is recommended that you proactively file I-485 Supp J. Other than that you just need your EAD card. thats my understanding but you can confirm with attorney of new firm if you have access to them.

  22. #3897
    Quote Originally Posted by smuggymba View Post
    Finally got the CPO email after 16+ years in this country. My center is TSC, physical card not received so it's not over until it's over.

    PD: March 30th, 2010
    485 Sent: March 5th, 2012
    RFE Date: May 27th , 2021
    RFER Date: June 16th, 2021
    Case Approved: June 22nd, 2021
    smuggymba - Many congratulations !! must be a big relief. looking at these positive news boost our hope getting green soon.
    Last edited by andhraguy; 06-23-2021 at 08:38 AM.

  23. #3898
    Quote Originally Posted by krnashvom8 View Post
    Since your date is current it is recommended that you proactively file I-485 Supp J. Other than that you just need your EAD card. thats my understanding but you can confirm with attorney of new firm if you have access to them.
    Attorney from the new firm requested my PERM, I-140 approval doc and I-495J from previous employer to check the job match and gave green signal saying SOC code doesn't match but job is of similar nature. Is that all to this process? anything else is left - I'm little worried. I will request the new firm to file the I-485J ASAP. Thank you!
    PD: EB2-I 2010 | Application Filed: Nov 4th 2020 | Finger Printing: 04/12/2021 | Medicals Interfiled - 06/02/2021 | I-485 Approved - 08/20/2021

  24. #3899
    Quote Originally Posted by maverick2010 View Post
    Attorney from the new firm requested my PERM, I-140 approval doc and I-495J from previous employer to check the job match and gave green signal saying SOC code doesn't match but job is of similar nature. Is that all to this process? anything else is left - I'm little worried. I will request the new firm to file the I-485J ASAP. Thank you!
    Can you please answer if you know about this process - any pointers? thank you!
    PD: EB2-I 2010 | Application Filed: Nov 4th 2020 | Finger Printing: 04/12/2021 | Medicals Interfiled - 06/02/2021 | I-485 Approved - 08/20/2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick2010 View Post
    Can you please answer if you know about this process - any pointers? thank you!
    I'll defer to the experts on this...

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