They are two faced ass**les.Originally Posted by Immigo
What about the thousands of Indian kids who are aging out?!AILA cannot support legislation that places additional burdens on those who are already waiting
in the immigrant visa backlog and that would extend the risk of children aging out and keeping
families in limbo for longer.
AILA's position is inhumane and they deserve to be called out by name. Not to mention their true position is simply to do their clients' bidding.
AILA should know very well that "chronic" part of this backlog entirely consists of people of Indian origin. So the kids at risk of aging out are almost exclusively Indians. Then by their own position they should support this bill which will reduce the risk. Perhaps some of you can start writing letters to AILA and explain to them that the kids at risk are 90%+ indian kids.
BTW - those doing advocacy have you guys considered adding a provision for aging out children to exempt them from aging out? If it is not too late, it will be a good idea to add it.
Last edited by qesehmk; 03-04-2020 at 07:02 PM.
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To abcx13
I have always believed that a fix could be done by Congress for the children aging out by amending the current CSPA. There is a lot of sympathy for these children in both chambers and across the aisle.Maybe if this was done then the proponents of country cap removal legislation would lose a significant bargaining chip which would decrease leverage for larger reform
Most of these AILA members are of Indian Origin - Shame !
We should start a campaign by mailing a letter to them condemning their stand (one letter per person per day for 30 days cost approx $18/-) and on Twitter against this AILA , .... I am starting with one today. Who is with me ?
Meanwhile - bill to give access to E3 visas to Irish passed the house ( https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-access-e3-visa )
With the full attention of the world on COVID-19, We can pause the discussion on S386 and Senator Dick. Changing the topic a bit: Do you think legal immigrants are eligible for the COVID-19 Stimulus payout money? From what I read so far, income limits are $75K/$150K (Individual/MFJ) limits and then they start phasing out.
Back in 2008 when $600 check went out, it was sent by IRS and you don't have to file/claim anything. Folks whose return had ITIN (i.e of Wife or dependent) they didn't received it. This time 2018 will be used as base yr for determination of income. If same process/procedure is followed then does it violate new govt charge rules for immigrants
Too many questions and very little in details. Maybe wait and watch and see how things plays out.
I just got the money directly credited to my account so Yes!
Merit based immigration is a no-brainer both parties agree in principle. This is like a desert everyone would enjoy. However, historically, both parties have their partisan unpalatable goodies they want to bundle up with this desert, which makes the whole package unsavory to the other side. Because it is such an easy target, it's always been used as a carrot. This will continue to be a carrot for a long long time, as there is no harm to citizens, only timid immigrants (with no voice) are being played.
They need a huge backlog of EB immigrants to project shift to merit based immigration. Therefore, backlog has been necessary.
Last edited by mar2010er; 04-29-2020 at 09:01 AM.
Its vote bank politics. As of now, Latinos and Hispanics are 2nd biggest ethinic grp in US and also is primary beneficiary of immigration. This grp primarily supports Dems in block. Due to this, Dem supports family based immigration. Where as Reps are mostly supported by business community which likes cheap labor and tax cuts. Dems are OK of increasing pie where as Reps wants to rebalance it. Thus the status quo.
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...5219#PST045219
Although this sentiment has been touted forever, I must disagree. There was some truth to this decades ago but I don't think "vote bank politics" is the real reason for the dem/Rep split that you speak of. Firstly democrats or republicans can NOT be segregated strictly in these buckets. It is more complicated than what you make of it. For eg There are many large corporations - Amazon/googles etc that do not support a Republican govt and there are many small business that have been democratic their whole life. I feel the dem/rep split is ideological in nature. I know a lot of Koren businesses that will always vote Republican. A lot of Portuguese on the other hand will vote democratic. Evangelicals will almost always vote Republican. Young people, African origin, union workers almost always demorcatic. Unfortunately not everyone votes here and that is a problem.
Another eg - I am pretty sure if the "family based immigrating" were mainly refugees say from Africa BUT with the further condition that all of them were channeled through a missionary agency, I can bet the evangelical base of the Rep party would welcome them with open arms. Now, that may very well end up with more *votes* cast to the Republicans but I don't think that is the primary reason why Republicans base welcomed them in the first place. Similarly when Pres Obama or the dems wanted the syrian refugees last time around, I don't think they were thinking of the future voter in mind and rather just following what countries like Germany did or what US historically did to asylum seekers - give them asylum!
My 2 cents.
Shaks
Shaks excellent post and welcome to blog. I will only comment on syrian refugees. Those asylums are geopolitical in nature rather than humanitarian. e.g. those people that come to US from iraq and syria are the collaborators e.g. translators or informants or even "fighters". Not to say pure humanitarian immigration hasn't been there. But I haven't observed it lately.
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Thanks Q for welcoming me! I have been a silent spectator for far too long. Although, I may run the risk of derailing this excellent thread on EB analysis, I just feel that immigration whether from Syria or elsewhere is always a combination of geo politics (like you rightly pointed out) and local lobbying. I can go on about how countries such as Korea, Israel and many others benefit from strong lobbying and treated differently regardless of geo political perception. My biggest gripe with naturalized Indian Americans especially the ones with corporate power is that none of them have publicly taken a stance on how H1B has helped them personally and change the public perception of local Americans in general. Also, none of them have highlighted how broken and discriminatory the GC process is for Indian born immigrants. Sadly, I have given up hope (EB2 June 2010) and like many members here in this forum do not believe that halting immigration for a couple of months will accidentally move the EB2/EB3 for us Indians. Even if the damn line moves, I find it deplorable that we have to rely upon pandemics to provide us with legitimate relief! Don't you or others here feel so ?
Shaks2020 - This has always been my struggle while waiting in the queue. While I would be glad if the queue moved for EB-I but at this point I don't think most of the people in this forum are even hoping for a GC. They would be happy to get an EAD and wait a few more years. At least that's the boat I am in. This is a cruel game being played on hapless immigrants by pitting them against each other. No one should be placed in a position where they are rooting for other's misfortune so that they may get some much needed relief. I totally agree!
Last edited by vsivarama; 04-30-2020 at 02:31 PM.
@shaks202 - Welcome to board; I am exactly as same boat as you with Aug-2020 as priority date. Always been to EB2 but with recent job switch company lawyers forcing me to file EB3.
Yes, its a complex matter and as you mentioned there are outliers. If there are no outliers things will be easy to automate or predict. But that has always been the case. Big corporation says one thing but they do lobby for low taxes or try to take advantage of every loophole.
As for naturalized Indians - thats one of the reason of backlog. Many apply for GC for their parents (can't blame them) and that in turn dried up FB spillover. All in all, EB-I is stuck in vicious cycle of its own success...
https://mobile.twitter.com/seungmink...837833217?s=08
Can someone explain to me what is GC recapture?
We have a new item to discuss (please contain any hope or enthusiasm - remember how many times you all have been disappointed already).
The Healthcare Workforce Resilience Act. The link below has the actual PDF of bill text. It is co-sponsored by two Ds and two Rs. In the current Covid goodwill towards healthcare, this might have a chance.
https://www.aila.org/advo-media/what...rce-resilience
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Oh, this would be good if it passes! But I hope they don't cut the other GCs proportionately!
Why is this good for people who are not doctors ?
Because this doesn't cut into existing numbers and creates new numbers. And then only gives 40K to doctors and nurses (thus effectively allows use by other categories).
If later on they prevent use by other categories, at the very least this does not cut into current quota. Rather it at least removes the backlogged healthcare backlogged folks (which is quite small in my opinion).
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I would feel better if Tom Cotton is a sponsor. I will wait to hear the arguments from Stephen Miller’s right wing friends.
Parents of citizens come under immediate relatives and as such are not subjected to cap nor consume FB numbers. So at least this category does not reduce the FB spillover.
If there are unused numbers in EB, they are added to next fiscal year’s FB and vice-versa. There can be unused numbers due to slow processing of agencies. The way the law is written, when numbers flow from EB to FB, it is kinda weird in that, there is a minimum of 226k added to FB. So regardless of any number, from 0 to 140k, spills over from EB flows to FB, the count for next year will be only 226k. So these numbers are essentially “lost”. This recapture is to reuse those numbers.
Anyway, this bill is going nowhere. It’s just for optics for senators, lobbyists and orgs to show that they are doing something. Regardless of what we call it, this is considered increasing visa numbers by the anti immigrant lobby and there are many republican senators opposed to increasing even 1 GC number. They will allow it only if it is offset on the family side, which dems won’t allow unless DACA and undocumented are legalized, which Republicans wont allow etc. that’s where CIR comes in, which is supposed to revamp the whole immigration, which will never get done in the current partisan climate. So the can is kicked down the road.
This is a carrot to show the docs and nurses that the AMA, nursing and doc lobby and senators are doing something for them. Nursing is another big lobby with exploitative employers, worse than even predatory IT bodyshops. Nursing does not require any extensive study or degree and is based on certification course for 2 years. This can very well be taken up by US citizens, but the nurse staffing companies prefer to get nurses from outside as there is a whole industry based on that. In fact nursing employees do not qualify for H1-B or other current temp work visa. So they have to be sponsored for GC directly from outside, which is done on a contract basis.
This also allows for family/dependents - so the net number might be higher than 80K (assuming 1+ dependent). I doubt though whether there are 25K AOS candidates for Nurses. It feels like 15K for Doctors should be fine. Another good thing here is that the proposal is for issuance of visas in order of PD - so super backlogged countries should have a better outcome.
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