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    Trump gets endorsement from Alabama senator - Jeff Sessions.

    It was never in doubt if Trump presidency was good for legal immigrants. But this endorsement speaks volumes.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/28/politi...s-endorsement/
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    Its looks very likely that Trump will be the eventual nominee. Having said that for Republican party had this coming. For years they have been ultra nationalistic and portraying immigrants has the true villans. There leaders never stood up to people like Steve King and others. They have potrayed that nothing works in this country and compromise is a bad thing forgetting that the founding father's created checks and balanaces in the system for a reason. I am just amazed that the party that fought for abolishment of slavery and helped pass civil rights.has become a party of Trump , Sessions and Steve King.

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    Was watching Trump in the last debate. Like a shrewd businessman, he is changing his colors as he is closer to general election. From his early crazy statements early on in the campaign, he defended planned parenthood even though other GOP candidates attacked him on that. I think he knows general election voter mix is different from GOP primary and he is carefully adapting to it. When asked about contributing Charle's Schumer etc, he didn't care to answer that. It is interesting to see candidates can lie through primaries to general election and nobody seems to have an issue.

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    Hi everybody! What do you think about Trump like the President? It's very interesting for me, because I'm from another country and I don't trust our news

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/opini...ria/index.html

    Stephen Miller against all immigration

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    Quote Originally Posted by newyorker123 View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/opini...ria/index.html

    Stephen Miller against all immigration
    No surprise there. An anti immigrant is an anti immigrant. Legal - illegal are just convenient arguments. Trump supporters are quite often racist. They don't like browning of America.

    That's why it is important for all backlogged immigrants to stand together and not bicker around who is more valued than others or who has better education and who deserves what etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    No surprise there. An anti immigrant is an anti immigrant. Legal - illegal are just convenient arguments. Trump supporters are quite often racist. They don't like browning of America.

    That's why it is important for all backlogged immigrants to stand together and not bicker around who is more valued than others or who has better education and who deserves what etc.

    So many of Trump's recruits have left. But unfortunately this guy is still there, and will remain to be so. Until Trump is there.
    Waiting for Mueller's report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newyorker123 View Post
    So many of Trump's recruits have left. But unfortunately this guy is still there, and will remain to be so. Until Trump is there.
    Waiting for Mueller's report.
    Ironically I know so many Indians who supported Trump. They did so for two reasons - 1) His anti-muslim rhetoric resonated with them. 2) They thought he would support GC reforms and abolish country quota. The second is not happening anytime soon. The first was wrong then and is wrong now. The less the said the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Ironically I know so many Indians who supported Trump. They did so for two reasons - 1) His anti-muslim rhetoric resonated with them. 2) They thought he would support GC reforms and abolish country quota. The second is not happening anytime soon. The first was wrong then and is wrong now. The less the said the better.
    I don't think (1) is correct for most Indians.
    The most important reason I supported Trump is that Obama/Democrats could get nothing done for legals in 8 years. With both house and senate, was hoping Trump would do something. Was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Ironically I know so many Indians who supported Trump. They did so for two reasons - 1) His anti-muslim rhetoric resonated with them.
    Lolz, spoken less but revealed a lot nevertheless. Sadistic pleasures, I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by newyorker123 View Post
    I don't think (1) is correct for most Indians.
    The most important reason I supported Trump is that Obama/Democrats could get nothing done for legals in 8 years. With both house and senate, was hoping Trump would do something. Was wrong.
    I apologize. I didn't infer you in anyway when I made my first comment.

    I am quite sure that a lot of Trump NRI supporters are BJP supporters and covert or overt Hindu Nationalists who are only happy to hear his anti-muslim rhetoric.

    It is painful but true that discrimination 90% of the times is silent and can't be understood with clarity. If we look through history, most of the Germans that supported Nazis would never say they were anti-jew .... but the reality is they were complicit directly or indirectly. Most of the southern whites never thought themselves as racist even though south has such a clear history of racism.

    I think the same is true with Trump supporters and the same is going to be true with BJP/VHP/RSS/Modi supporters. How do I know? Well I was one such Hindu Nationalist who participated in the 1992 Babri demolition. Only after coming to the US have I realize how useless the whole Hindu Nationalism is and how wrong it is to blame muslims for India's problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by bloddy1 View Post
    Lolz, spoken less but revealed a lot nevertheless. Sadistic pleasures, I guess
    Sadistic pleasures? I am not sure if you are agreeing with me or disagreeing!
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    !!! What is coming ??? Potential path to citizenship - I thought we already have that already (albeit a very long path for few people)

    Trump tweeted 5 minutes back :
    H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.
    Last edited by newyorker123; 01-11-2019 at 07:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newyorker123 View Post
    !!! What is coming ??? Potential path to citizenship - I thought we already have that already (albeit a very long path for few people)

    Trump tweeted 5 minutes back :
    H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.
    May be he just realized that the part of the southern border security is funded by the H1B fee.
    If they clear the GC backlogs with extra fee we will be ready to raise the 1 to 2 Billion as part of the extra fee easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YTeleven View Post
    May be he just realized that the part of the southern border security is funded by the H1B fee.
    If they clear the GC backlogs with extra fee we will be ready to raise the 1 to 2 Billion as part of the extra fee easily.
    May be they did fresh internal polling and told DT that support among South Asian's has cratered. So he is creating sensational news.

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    DT does not need support from South Asians. I think he is making his case for the wall funding and DT is for legal immigration and he is not against all immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idliman View Post
    May be they did fresh internal polling and told DT that support among South Asian's has cratered. So he is creating sensational news.
    Absolutely false.
    On the contrary H1Bs alone can pay 3 Billions to USCIS if they prioritize GCs for backlog candidates. Its a BIG onetime fee but everyone will be ready to pay for faster EAD/GCs. And this is a NET ZERO migration effort as these are already in US and waiting in line. He has to check the USCIS balance sheet for last 10 years and he will know how many billions are paid by these H1B holders while waiting for GCs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YTeleven View Post
    Absolutely false.
    On the contrary H1Bs alone can pay 3 Billions to USCIS if they prioritize GCs for backlog candidates. Its a BIG onetime fee but everyone will be ready to pay for faster EAD/GCs. And this is a NET ZERO migration effort as these are already in US and waiting in line. He has to check the USCIS balance sheet for last 10 years and he will know how many billions are paid by these H1B holders while waiting for GCs.
    This CRS report https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45447 estimates how many are waiting for GCs and are working in US.
    If we safely assume a 300K Visas need to be issued to clear the backlogs and put a one time fee of 10k which will generate 3 Billions in next 2 months in USCIS account.

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    Folks rest assured that EB reforms is the last priority within Immigration reform. And abolition of country quota is last of the last for a variety of reasons.

    Please be realistic. The only way American system works is through legislation and litigation. We dont see much appetite for litigation. That leaves legislation as the only option. Legislation happens because people want it or corporations want it.

    Do you really think American Corporations want abolition of country quota. That's incredibly hurtful to them. It makes the whole H1B ineffective. So no they don't want it.

    Do you really think American people want it? The answer is most don't even understand it or don't care about country quota. But a lot of people DO CARE about foreigners taking up their jobs. So as much as Trump tweets .... the reality is his core base is dead against any kind of immigration - legal or otherwise.

    I do think there is a great chance for DACA deal and possibly bigger immigration reform as part of current shutdown stalemate.

    However you have to ask this very rationally to yourself - other than Indians stuck in the GC backlog, who gets benefited by making those Indians move faster in the GC queue. Only if you have a good coherent answer to this question then perhaps Trumps tweet has some merit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YTeleven View Post
    This CRS report https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45447 estimates how many are waiting for GCs and are working in US.
    If we safely assume a 300K Visas need to be issued to clear the backlogs and put a one time fee of 10k which will generate 3 Billions in next 2 months in USCIS account.
    I can understand that desis will be happy to pay the one time fee to fund the wall if that gives them GC faster. After all, that is our mentality - bribe our way in. This is the mindset from India because that is the only way things get done there. From the early stages of getting kids admitted to a good school, you pay a "donation", need a job- you catch a politician, need a file or permit passed from a gov't agency - pay "kharcha paani" from the peon all the way to the top guy to "move your file". Same mentality we are showing here.

    My question is - why should we pay? Cos we were born in a certain country? After playing by all the rules, we are still stuck because of this broken system. I am myself waiting for my interview to be scheduled - who knows when that will happen...but why should we pay anything extra than what we r supposed to? Have you ever heard the DACA kids put up this offer? Since they have no pathway to a GC, shouldn't they be more willing? But they even rejected the bill which was helping them cos it was cutting legal immigration by half! Will we ever do anything like that? We fight among ourselves - EB1, EB2, EB3 even H1Bs oppose H4 EAD! This cut throat mentality is within us cos India is super competitive due to high population. We are taught to be like this from a very young age.

    I can guarantee that if a bill comes out which says EB2I quota will be increased to 5k at the cost of decreasing EB3I quota by an equal number, most desis will jump to support the bill even though it will hurt EB3Is.

    I have seen the worst when I was working to get H4 EAD done and was shocked to see the resistance coming mostly from H1Bs who feared that H4s will flood the IT market, bring their wages down and take away their jobs. That is pretty much our mentality and it shows here too.

    Sorry for digressing..but the idea of us paying for the wall boils my blood.
    Last edited by EB3Iwaiting; 01-11-2019 at 12:03 PM.

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    Sensible comments/opinions by qesehmk and EB3Iwaiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Folks rest assured that EB reforms is the last priority within Immigration reform. And abolition of country quota is last of the last for a variety of reasons.

    Please be realistic. The only way American system works is through legislation and litigation. We dont see much appetite for litigation. That leaves legislation as the only option. Legislation happens because people want it or corporations want it.

    Do you really think American Corporations want abolition of country quota. That's incredibly hurtful to them. It makes the whole H1B ineffective. So no they don't want it.

    Do you really think American people want it? The answer is most don't even understand it or don't care about country quota. But a lot of people DO CARE about foreigners taking up their jobs. So as much as Trump tweets .... the reality is his core base is dead against any kind of immigration - legal or otherwise.

    I do think there is a great chance for DACA deal and possibly bigger immigration reform as part of current shutdown stalemate.

    However you have to ask this very rationally to yourself - other than Indians stuck in the GC backlog, who gets benefited by making those Indians move faster in the GC queue. Only if you have a good coherent answer to this question then perhaps Trumps tweet has some merit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Folks rest assured that EB reforms is the last priority within Immigration reform. And abolition of country quota is last of the last for a variety of reasons.

    Please be realistic. The only way American system works is through legislation and litigation. We dont see much appetite for litigation. That leaves legislation as the only option. Legislation happens because people want it or corporations want it.

    Do you really think American Corporations want abolition of country quota. That's incredibly hurtful to them. It makes the whole H1B ineffective. So no they don't want it.

    Do you really think American people want it? The answer is most don't even understand it or don't care about country quota. But a lot of people DO CARE about foreigners taking up their jobs. So as much as Trump tweets .... the reality is his core base is dead against any kind of immigration - legal or otherwise.

    I do think there is a great chance for DACA deal and possibly bigger immigration reform as part of current shutdown stalemate.

    However you have to ask this very rationally to yourself - other than Indians stuck in the GC backlog, who gets benefited by making those Indians move faster in the GC queue. Only if you have a good coherent answer to this question then perhaps Trumps tweet has some merit.
    Inspite of DT known to talk non-sense most the of times, there seems to be something going on. A deal is cooking and it involves EB Immigration..let us guess what it could be..
    Last edited by HarepathekaIntezar; 01-11-2019 at 01:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarepathekaIntezar View Post
    Inspite of DT known to talk non-sense a lot of times, there seems to be something going on. A deal is cooking and EB Immigration is involved..let us guess what it could be..
    All I could think is a simple capitalistic equation like 300,000 * 10,000 USD = 3,000,000,000 USD

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    The only thing I can think of is the EB Per Country quota and the Lottery being removed. This would be in addition to DACA.

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