The FY2014 RFE Thread

[qesehmk]

Viz

I think there is a fine difference between "Documentarily Qualified" and "Pre-adjudicated". Perhaps Kanmani and Spec and can chime in.

My understanding is that former means all checkboxes checked. The latter means ... all checkboxes checked and verified.

I dont mean to be a debbie downer but until May 31 everyone was "pre-adjudicated" - thats why we saw the demand data the way it is. Pre-adjudicated means "documentarily qualified". If the 693 is invalid, by definition one is not "documentarily qualified". While there is a chance that people will get through without a RFE, I would not rely on the term "pre-adjudicated" meaning no more RFEs.

[helpful_leo]

I dont mean to be a debbie downer but until May 31 everyone was "pre-adjudicated" - thats why we saw the demand data the way it is. Pre-adjudicated means "documentarily qualified". If the 693 is invalid, by definition one is not "documentarily qualified". While there is a chance that people will get through without a RFE, I would not rely on the term "pre-adjudicated" meaning no more RFEs.

Fully aware of that.

Maybe for various reasons - randomness / incompetence / luck - some folks remained 'pre-adjudicated' (although they should not have) while others are getting RFEs?

Just trying to list possible causes for a small but significant % people who are not receiving RFEs.

[aug152008]

My RFE letter said ' though your case was pre-adjudicated' we need evl, 693 etc

[Spectator]

Yep!

Found this on trackitt (from USCIS)

"To maximize visa number usage while working off its backlog, USCIS has adopted a production strategy that focuses on completing cases where visas are immediately available and on working cases to the point just short of approval (pre-adjudication) where visas will be available in the coming months. Pre-adjudication includes completing all required background checks and resolving all eligibility issues except for visa availability. This allows for immediate approval and visa number allocation as visas become available for pre-adjudicated cases."

That quote comes from April 2008 http://www.uscis.gov.edgesuite-stagi...00082ca60aRCRD and simply describes what pre-adjudication is.

The case has to be checked again to see that all eligibilities still remain before it can be finally approved.

A case cannot be approved if the I-693 is no longer valid. Up until May 31, 2014, the I-693 had received validity extensions since 2002. That is no longer the case.

In the teleconference yesterday, it is reported that USCIS confirmed that everyone who is likely to become current in the near future, who would have an I-693 more than one year old, will receive an RFE.

[sibnet]

Right now the RFE's are sent only to EB3-I until December. No news about EB2-I at all.

I got RFE thru SMS from USCIS today. EB-2 I - Priority Date: December 10, 2008.

[cool_mj007]

Received RFE (email and text) for myself and my wife.
PD: July 2009
RD: Feb 2012

[vizcard]

Just trying to list possible causes for a small but significant % people who are not receiving RFEs.

i hear u. I'm just as baffled by the order in which people are getting RFEs. But the USCIS works in mysterious ways.

[suninphx]

Oct 2009 stared getting RFE now...
http://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussi...page/last_page

[helpful_leo]

i hear u. I'm just as baffled by the order in which people are getting RFEs. But the USCIS works in mysterious ways.

Seems it was random. Just got texts regarding the RFE.

Are people here waiting to get the RFE before renewing the I-693, or getting it ready ahead of time so as to send it ASAP?

[geevikram]

Seems it was random. Just got texts regarding the RFE.

Are people here waiting to get the RFE before renewing the I-693, or getting it ready ahead of time so as to send it ASAP?

helpful_leo, I just got mine ahead of time. My pd is 7/3/2008 and no RFE yet. My case is at NSC. I see RFE's for folks that are non-NSC. I don't know how this random process of approval works. Going to call up USCIS on Monday to check whether I need to send my I693 or not. I've a lot of things contingent upon getting GC this year including a career change..hope uscis does not screw up this year too.

[vizcard]

helpful_leo, I just got mine ahead of time. My pd is 7/3/2008 and no RFE yet. My case is at NSC. I see RFE's for folks that are non-NSC. I don't know how this random process of approval works. Going to call up USCIS on Monday to check whether I need to send my I693 or not. I've a lot of things contingent upon getting GC this year including a career change..hope uscis does not screw up this year too.

vikram
don't send anything unless asked for. i would ask USCIS whether everyone is getting a I693 RFE and if yes, tell them u haven't gotten yours and you will be current in July. Also, make sure they have the right address for you.

PS: Let the board know if USCIS says everyone IS getting a RFE for I693

[geevikram]

vikram
don't send anything unless asked for. i would ask USCIS whether everyone is getting a I693 RFE and if yes, tell them u haven't gotten yours and you will be current in July. Also, make sure they have the right address for you.

PS: Let the board know if USCIS says everyone IS getting a RFE for I693

Yes viz, I'm not sending mine. I just have mine handy. Plan to call them first thing Monday morning. Also from what i've read everywhere NSC folks seem to be affected most, in the sense, we have not got our RFE's.

[enigma]

I received RFE notification email and text on Thursday, July 12th. My PD is April 2009. Will post details of the RFE once I receive physical copy in the mail.

[iamsam]

Hi All
My PD is Jan 5, 2009. EB2I, TSC. No RFE yet. I had filed my I-485 concurrently with I-140 (successor in Interest) in Mar 2012. My I-485 receipt notice listed receipt date as my PD. My lawyer was OK with that since my I-140 approval notice later had correct PD listed.
So i am wondering if one of the reason that my case is not looked at yet (or no RFE issued yet) is this incorrect PD on my Receipt notice. Basically they could be issuing RFE to "simple and straightforward" hassle free cases and people like me who need slightly extra scrutiny (such as I-140 "Successor in Interest" porting PD from original I-140) would be last in the queue and may miss the boat.
Any comments?

Thanks

[helpful_leo]

Quite amazing to see a confirmed pattern of RFEs all the way up to October.

Now I have started worrying though. PD 10/2008 and no RFE yet. No change in online status, no email/text. I think I am gonna talk to an L2 again tomorrow.

One thing though: they might be going by the RD. I submitted late in March 2012. There might be still time. I can turn around an RFE response in 2 days myself.

Another surprising thing is several people current next month (original filers, not porters too) have not received RFEs. I wonder how their cases will be handled.

Good luck all.

I was in a similar situation till Saturday - when I got the mails/ texts reg. RFE (PD mid Dec 2008, RD Jan 1st week 2012, TSC) and was relieved. You make a good point about RD.

I was also quite annoyed by the randomness of the RFEs - mid 2009s getting it but not 2008ers.

My sense is, you will get it most likely within next 2 weeks, and definitely before the month you are current.

Now I worry about if the RFEs are about something besides I-693 / EVL : )

[helpful_leo]

helpful_leo, I just got mine ahead of time. My pd is 7/3/2008 and no RFE yet. My case is at NSC. I see RFE's for folks that are non-NSC. I don't know how this random process of approval works. Going to call up USCIS on Monday to check whether I need to send my I693 or not. I've a lot of things contingent upon getting GC this year including a career change..hope uscis does not screw up this year too.

I think you will get it very soon, likely this week itself.

So you got the I-693 ready before getting the RFE itself?
Did the surgeon not have issues with that? Somebody here mentioned that some surgeons ask to see the RFE?

[gcpursuit]

I saw that people have received RFEs till October 2009 but almost all of the RFEs for PDs beyond May 2009 ( except for a couple of them ) are from NSC.I found it odd. Does that mean anything or will TSC catch up?

[geevikram]

I think you will get it very soon, likely this week itself.

So you got the I-693 ready before getting the RFE itself?
Did the surgeon not have issues with that? Somebody here mentioned that some surgeons ask to see the RFE?

Surgeon had no issues. All he needed was $248 . Will be picking up my packet today, hopefully. Sports makes a valid point. They might be sending out RFE by RD's. I sent it late Apr'12, so I may not receive it soon.

[vkrishna]

All, a question --> My PD is Feb 2009 and the case updated on June 6th to RFE. My lawyer still has not received the actual RFE. Generally how long does it take after USCIS posts the RFE

[GCHopes]

Not sure if RFE by receive dates add up? My receive date was in January while most of the late 2009's applications become current in March!! I really hope we are missing something here because if everyone needs a RFE prior to getting greened, and the fact that i've not got one yet does not add up at all!! This is soo frustrating for all the folks who will be current in July and don't yet have a RFE while everyone else up until Oct 2009 seem to be getting one!!!!!!!!!

[geevikram]

Surgeon had no issues. All he needed was $248 . Will be picking up my packet today, hopefully. Sports makes a valid point. They might be sending out RFE by RD's. I sent it late Apr'12, so I may not receive it soon.

Guys, As I was picking up my packet from doc's office, I got the RFE SMS. Kinda strange, it typically happens the other way around

[helpful_leo]

Guys, As I was picking up my packet from doc's office, I got the RFE SMS. Kinda strange, it typically happens the other way around

Well, this is what I said just some hours ago : )

I think you will get it very soon, likely this week itself.

[geevikram]

Well, this is what I said just some hours ago : )

That's what I was thinking too..

[sp2008]

helpful_leo, I just got mine ahead of time. My pd is 7/3/2008 and no RFE yet. My case is at NSC. I see RFE's for folks that are non-NSC. I don't know how this random process of approval works. Going to call up USCIS on Monday to check whether I need to send my I693 or not. I've a lot of things contingent upon getting GC this year including a career change..hope uscis does not screw up this year too.

Vikram,
so much of coincidence.
my PD is 07/03/2008 as well. i did not get RFE yet. Baffled by this.
just getting the Medicals done in case.
Hope they do the right thing is correct order.

[qbloguser]

Received email/SMS for address change update on my case. It was in acceptance state before and now it is initial review. Now, let's wait for rfe!!! PD 10-Apr-2009 TSC

I agree. Pre-Adj means nothing. I am still expecting an RFE, at least for I693!