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  1. #2951
    Glad the dates are current. Has been a long journey and qesehmk made it a more informative and less painful...Special thanks to Q, Spec, Matt, Indiani for keeping people like me informed and less in the dark

    - My PD is Jan 10 2008 but I have not yet filed for i-485. Do you think there will be enough time to get the actual card instead of just getting the EAD/AP within the next few months?

  2. #2952
    Missed by 9 days and yet to file 485

    Gurus, I am bit bummed, I was hoping against hope to file I-485 this month and it feels really bad to be so close yet so far. Is there any hope in the next few months? There are quite a few life decisions which are pending on this and I do not want to change jobs now only to miss the window again (already missed once in 2011 as I was re-doing PERM). Would really appreciate any guidance here.

  3. #2953
    Quote Originally Posted by garihc27 View Post
    Gurus,

    I am in a unique situation. Long story short, my PD is 05/2008 so my case is current. However my PERM is still to be approved. After years of audits and appeals, recently BALCA ruled in my favor. I am waiting on DOL now to approve PERM. Do you know if there is a timeline on DOL approval of BALCA cases?
    I am hoping that the approval comes in the next month, so I could concurrent file (I-140 & I-485) before the Sept 30th date.

    Thanks!
    i doubt anybody on the forum could answer your question. You can try and see if Senator and Congressman can help you out. Good Luck!!!
    [I]EB3 PD: Dec/21/2007
    EB2 PD: April/01/2009
    Center : TSC
    485 MD: Nov/30/2011 (with lawyer covering letter requesting to convert/interfile/port with EB3 priority date to EB2 category)
    485 RD: Dec/1/2011. 485 ND: Dec/13/2011
    FP Walk in Done: Dec/27/2011. (FP App. Date: Jan/18/2011)
    EAD/AP: Feb/10/2012
    On June/22/2008 USCIS issued new (notice of approval) I140 with EB2 category and PD Dec/21/2007
    GC: Aug/19/2013

  4. #2954
    garihc27: Most likely no one knows the answer to your question (I certainly don't). That's probably why you are not getting a response.

  5. #2955
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    I'm going to guess that as a result of the COD of 15JUN08 in the September VB, EB2-I will receive around 20-21k approvals in FY2013, taking into account some cases will be left behind.

    That's a pretty good result.
    Spec, Q, and other Gurus,

    Any idea about what was considered in Aug bulletin and what was considered in Sep bulletin.

    We had a discussion earlier where people suspected that FA is only taken into account for Aug bulletin and FD is not taken into account. With the Sep bulletin the use of the words "otherwise unused numbers" and the fact that CO specifically mentions low consumption of EB1, it looks as if FD was only considered in Sep movement.

    Basically my Question is to find out in which bulletin and at what time the CO gave the following spillovers to EB2I:
    1. FD from EB1, EB4, EB5
    2. FA from EB2WW
    3. Family based unused visas (also is this available every year ?)

  6. #2956
    Congratulations to all those who will be current next month.
    I am very happy for you guys.

    Q, I didn't really think June 2008 would even be remotely possible. You stuck with your prediction even in light of several indicators to the contrary. Your intuition/gut perfectly compliments the raw and solid calculations from Spec, Matt, etc. If this is indeed the last full fledged prediction from you, I have to say... Way to Go Q!!! And thank you for everything. I am going to stick around this forum at least until I get my GC and I will surely miss you.

    Gurus, when the dust from this FY settles and when we get to look at the pending inventory early next year, I am inclined to think that there would be a total backlog of 9-10k eb2i before PD Oct 1 2008. (That includes unresolved porting cases from this FY, unlucky unapproved straight eb2i
    cases left over prior to Jun2008, newly filed cases, and the currently known demand between Jun15 and Sep30 2008). Does that make any sense to you at all ? Can you share your opinion please ?

  7. #2957
    But the spillover is for FY 2013 right. So this means they either have to approve cases until september 2003 else in October move it back? I do hope it moves ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    Spec, I expected the residual demand to be 33K for EB2-IC. Does that number jive with your calculations? I thought the EB2-I number would be 16K or so. I guess I forgot to add porting which may be another 5K?

    Anyways, calculations are not my forte.
    kd,

    You are correct that I am including an allowance for porting.
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  9. #2959
    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfan33 View Post
    I don't think so. All EB3-I cases are pre-adjudicated. EB3-I has received *spillover* from EB3-ROW, hence the date has moved in September. It will move 1-2 weeks per month as usual starting October.
    This spillover is for FY 2013 right which means they either process all cases until september 2003 or else in October move it back? I sure hope they keep on moving it ahead

  10. #2960
    I have been a very passive member but couldn't control myself registering to mention how valuable about Q's and other experts contributions are to/in this forum to the immigrant community. Hats off to you! You deserve a standing applause!
    Congratulations to everyone who are current.
    I missed the boat by 5 days (PD - June 19 2008) but wouldn't sweat much on it since there are few people who didn't have an EAD even with earlier PD than mine.
    Hopefully USCIS learns from its mistakes and grants visas in order of PD.

    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post

    General Prediction
    - anybody in EB2IC category who is interested in understanding time to get GC - should keep in mind 2 things:
    1. Time to GC is generally 4-5 years since your PD.
    2. Time to GC is a step function. i.e. generally more % of approvals come between Jun-Sep every years. Oct-May is generally uneventful for most people. The reason being - that generally USCIS/DOS do NOT do quarterly spillover and hence for EB2IC the monthly quota is paltry and very few people can get their GC in that quota. The major dates movement happens at the end of USCIS year i.e. between Jun-Sep every year.


    2013 Prediction (Updated based on DOS data) - Updated 11 Jul 03


    Summary Prediction - EB2IC backlog will be cleared between Feb-July 2008 by Sep 2013 based on my personal calculations.

    Reasoning

    Headwinds to EB2IC
    1. EB5 - Looks like EB5 will yield little to none SOFAD. There is strong demand in EB5 both in 485 as well as CP cases. (9k YTD usage already confirmed)
    2. EB2ROW - EB2ROW most likely is not going to yield any extra visas to EB2IC. EB2ROW has quite strong demand (50% more compared to last year). Its possible that ROW will consume between 1-5K more than its usual quota. (assuming 5K porting)
    3. EB4 - Has strong demand and will probably yield 3K to EB1.
    4. EB1 - Has strong demand and will yield about 5K to EB1.

    Tailwinds to EB2IC
    1. The only thing working for EB2IC is the 18K extra family visas. Of them EB2IC will receive 9K since EB3 and EB5 are going to require all the extra visas they get.

    Thus EB2IC should expect to receive overall 9K (FB) +3K (EB4) +5K (EB1) +6K (Quota) - 5K (ROW overage) = 18K visas.

    That should be sufficient to clear EB2IC backlog upto May 2008.

    The upside to the May 2008 forecast could be upto Jul 2008 and the downside is Feb 2008. The risk or opportunity both lie in EB2ROW this year. The other categories don't have much variables. Any hopes of dates moving into 2009 in a sustainable manner this year are zero if any. The dates could still move into 2009 if CO wants to build any inventory. But I wouldn't bet on it.

    Those interested in playing these scenarios themselves can use the paid service at www.whereismygc.com especially if you want to build your own forecast etc. Good luck.

    Visa Bulletin Commentary

    CO says in VB that the movement is within numbers available in EB2. To me that is indication of FD numbers are yet to come. And hence I would expect movement of 3-6 months more in September.

    Any movement beyond Jul 2008 will be unsustainable and we should expect a retrogression AFTER nov 2013.


    Announcement for FY 2014
    FY 2014 (i.e. Oct 2013 onwards) I am going to stop contributing to predictions here. With whereismygc tool now there is no real need for me to spend time doing calculations manually. Besides it is a conflict of interest to do both.

  11. #2961
    Quote Originally Posted by willywonka View Post
    Congratulations to all those who will be current next month.
    I am very happy for you guys.

    Q, I didn't really think June 2008 would even be remotely possible. You stuck with your prediction even in light of several indicators to the contrary. Your intuition/gut perfectly compliments the raw and solid calculations from Spec, Matt, etc. If this is indeed the last full fledged prediction from you, I have to say... Way to Go Q!!! And thank you for everything. I am going to stick around this forum at least until I get my GC and I will surely miss you.

    Gurus, when the dust from this FY settles and when we get to look at the pending inventory early next year, I am inclined to think that there would be a total backlog of 9-10k eb2i before PD Oct 1 2008. (That includes unresolved porting cases from this FY, unlucky unapproved straight eb2i
    cases left over prior to Jun2008, newly filed cases, and the currently known demand between Jun15 and Sep30 2008). Does that make any sense to you at all ? Can you share your opinion please ?
    I am not a guru but would like to say that the visa bulletin was released pretty late and CO should have thought that the demand until June 2008 would be fulfilled this year. Of course his predictions could be wrong but I would expect an error of around 2k. Now the additional demand from june to oct is another 5.5k and thus I would expect the total backlog to be around 7.5k

    However, I am thinking the porting is going to be lethal until the 2014 spillovers come in. The biggest worrying factor is that there is a very high motivation for people with PDs post 2007 to port to EB2 as they might not even have their EADs.

    So to summarize, I think the next time inventory is released it might be around 7.5k before Oct 2008. But by the time CO can move the dates again (Aug 2014 viasa bulletin) that number would have gone up to 12k.

  12. #2962
    Quote Originally Posted by chewbaca View Post
    Glad the dates are current. Has been a long journey and qesehmk made it a more informative and less painful...Special thanks to Q, Spec, Matt, Indiani for keeping people like me informed and less in the dark

    - My PD is Jan 10 2008 but I have not yet filed for i-485. Do you think there will be enough time to get the actual card instead of just getting the EAD/AP within the next few months?

    I don't see the dates retrogressing anytime soon, rest assured:-)

    My friends got their GC in 2 months, so anything is possible....

  13. #2963
    Spec, Q, Matt

    Would you agree that trackitt could be relied for Eb2ROW approval trend if not the actual numbers? The EB2ROW approvals really tapered off in the last couple of months compared to those earlier Jan-Feb-Mar.

    Regards
    Nat

  14. #2964
    Natvyas - Of late I haven't used trackitt much because I figured that last years usage + labor data + USCIS dashboard are sufficient to make decent predictions. However trackitt data is very useful for EB2I and EB2ROW trends. Both have sufficient data points that the data IMHO is statistically significant to draw inference from with some cautions of course. The caution being - the data generally is more dense for past dates and less dense for current dates (as one would expect). So the ratio of trackitt cases to actual cases changes accordingly.


    Quote Originally Posted by natvyas View Post
    Spec, Q, Matt

    Would you agree that trackitt could be relied for Eb2ROW approval trend if not the actual numbers? The EB2ROW approvals really tapered off in the last couple of months compared to those earlier Jan-Feb-Mar.

    Regards
    Nat
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  15. #2965
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan01 View Post
    I am not a guru but would like to say that the visa bulletin was released pretty late and CO should have thought that the demand until June 2008 would be fulfilled this year. Of course his predictions could be wrong but I would expect an error of around 2k. Now the additional demand from june to oct is another 5.5k and thus I would expect the total backlog to be around 7.5k

    However, I am thinking the porting is going to be lethal until the 2014 spillovers come in. The biggest worrying factor is that there is a very high motivation for people with PDs post 2007 to port to EB2 as they might not even have their EADs.

    So to summarize, I think the next time inventory is released it might be around 7.5k before Oct 2008. But by the time CO can move the dates again (Aug 2014 viasa bulletin) that number would have gone up to 12k.
    12k is scary, if it is indeed that high, it puts an Oct 2008 PDer at pretty much the same spot in line as he was at the beginning of this FY (maybe just a couple of months better)...Even though it looks like Eb2i is getting around 18k total this FY. These potential porters give me nightmares.

  16. #2966
    I just remembered the old PD Database thread here

    Congratulations to the following folk for being current again, although some of you may have got your GCs back in spring 2012.

    01/10/08 - FamilyGuy
    01/10/08 - ravisekhar
    01/14/08 - Kreddy.g
    01/15/08 - indiasunil
    01/29/08 - cbpds1
    02/01/08 - Gclongwait
    02/06/08 - rich895
    02/07/08 - Nabrika
    02/08/08 - meso129
    02/13/08 - chagas
    02/22/08 - ggk189
    02/XX/08 - Karma1979
    03/07/08 - polapragada
    03/11/08 - grnwtg
    03/13/08 - pdmar08
    03/14/08 - vwsb310
    03/15/08 - ontheedge
    03/26/08 - Saturnring
    03/28/08 - pdmarch282008
    04/03/08 - yesman
    04/08/08 - venkimakthal
    04/08/08 - GCKnowHow
    04/18/08 - VChirakala
    04/22/08 - meetasn(Satish)
    04/23/08 - Vissi (vishwanathkvs?)
    04/25/08 - Pedro Gonzales
    04/30/08 - Makmohan
    05/06/08 - saky007
    05/07/08 - Aary09
    05/08/08 - pdmay2008
    05/08/08 - cm9201
    05/16/08- free2talk
    05/19/08 - shreyasai2004
    05/28/08 - zombie
    06/13/08 - EB2Jun08

  17. #2967
    Hi -

    If anyone with knowledge about this responds, it will be great. My PD is May 30th 2008. I had filed my 485 in Jan 2012 and got my EAD through TSC since I used to live in VT. Last Dec, I moved to MN which comes under NSC. I promptly changed my address on the application with USCIS in December itself and go the confirmation. Since MN comes under NSC, will my paper work be transferred from TSC or it does not matter and TSC will be processing the file?

  18. #2968
    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Gonzales View Post
    I just remembered the old PD Database thread here

    Congratulations to all the following folk for being current again, although some of you may have got their GCs back in spring 2012.
    01/10/08 - FamilyGuy
    01/10/08 - ravisekhar
    01/14/08 - Kreddy.g
    01/15/08 - indiasunil
    01/29/08 - cbpds1
    02/01/08 - Gclongwait
    02/06/08 - rich895
    02/07/08 - Nabrika
    02/08/08 - meso129
    02/13/08 - chagas
    02/22/08 - ggk189
    02/XX/08 - Karma1979
    03/07/08 - polapragada
    03/11/08 - grnwtg
    03/13/08 - pdmar08
    03/14/08 - vwsb310
    03/15/08 - ontheedge
    03/24/08 - natvyas
    03/26/08 - Saturnring
    03/28/08 - pdmarch282008
    04/03/08 - yesman
    04/08/08 - venkimakthal
    04/08/08 - GCKnowHow
    04/18/08 - VChirakala
    04/22/08 - meetasn(Satish)
    04/23/08 - Vissi (vishwanathkvs?)
    04/25/08 - Pedro Gonzales
    04/30/08 - Makmohan
    05/06/08 - saky007
    05/07/08 - Aary09
    05/08/08 - pdmay2008
    05/08/08 - cm9201
    05/16/08- free2talk
    05/19/08 - shreyasai2004
    05/28/08 - zombie
    06/13/08 - EB2Jun08

  19. #2969
    Quote Originally Posted by willywonka View Post
    Q, I didn't really think June 2008 would even be remotely possible. You stuck with your prediction even in light of several indicators to the contrary. Your intuition/gut perfectly compliments the raw and solid calculations from Spec, Matt, etc.

    If this is indeed the last full fledged prediction from you, I have to say... Way to Go Q!!! And thank you for everything. I am going to stick around this forum at least until I get my GC and I will surely miss you.
    @willy - appreciate your kind words. On intuition and gut - I actually do use data. But then I don't go too crazy slicing and dicing a whole lot because statistics loses its significance at micro level. Randomness kicks in. So it is critical to keep usage of data at a high level.

    On whether it will be last prediction - indeed I will for obvious reasons that I have earlier talked about. But I promise I will be around and sure I am not shy on giving advice if I could be of any help to any one of you.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  20. #2970
    Quote Originally Posted by willywonka View Post
    12k is scary, if it is indeed that high, it puts an Oct 2008 PDer at pretty much the same spot in line as he was at the beginning of this FY (maybe just a couple of months better)...Even though it looks like Eb2i is getting around 18k total this FY. These potential porters give me nightmares.
    Well there are two categories of porters from EB3 to EB2:
    1. Those who had EADs. This porting is difficult as the job requirements should match, etc.
    2. Those who never had EADs. This porting is easy as there is no requirement for job to be iwhtin same state, same description, same profile, same duties, etc.

    So far we have seen porting of cases of type(1) and that amounted to 300 porters a month when the date was 2004. If that date was 2008 then it would amount to 700 porters at least. Now with the combination of (1) and (2) it is going be much higher. If the PD stays at June08 then there will be both types of porting active (1) and (2).

    Also since the time the dates became unavailable (Jun 2012) the type (2) porting has been going on in the background. It is not subject bulletin dates and hence that continues. I am sure there are at least 10 k cases between Aug 2007 and June 2008 that would have been EB3 before the dates became unavailable in June 2012. These people have a lot of incentive and would have been converting to EB2 and I am thinking at least 5k of those might have already ported. That is where I come up with the figure of 5k to add to the already visible 7.5k that we have.

    That is the explanation of 12~12.5k before Oct 2008.

  21. #2971
    Quote Originally Posted by vinodindia View Post
    Hi -

    If anyone with knowledge about this responds, it will be great. My PD is May 30th 2008. I had filed my 485 in Jan 2012 and got my EAD through TSC since I used to live in VT. Last Dec, I moved to MN which comes under NSC. I promptly changed my address on the application with USCIS in December itself and go the confirmation. Since MN comes under NSC, will my paper work be transferred from TSC or it does not matter and TSC will be processing the file?
    Unless someone else responds differently, I think you are safe. My application was randomly transferred from TSC to NSC even though i didn't have an address change. Since you notified the USCIS of the address change, you are good to go.

  22. #2972
    Quote Originally Posted by natvyas View Post
    03/24/08 - natvyas
    Congratulations to you too, but if you want to get your name on the list, please update that thread. It'll help us keep track of approvals too when Sep 3 rolls around.
    NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|

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    Quote Originally Posted by natvyas View Post
    Spec, Q, Matt

    Would you agree that trackitt could be relied for Eb2ROW approval trend if not the actual numbers? The EB2ROW approvals really tapered off in the last couple of months compared to those earlier Jan-Feb-Mar.

    Regards
    Nat
    nat,

    Historically, the figures have been quite reliable. As Q points out, the actual % is subject to small changes each year and is never identical.

    Here's the comparison of EB2-ROW (No M or P) Trackitt approvals for last year and to this year to date, calculated on the same basis.

    Month ---- FY12 - FY13
    October ---- 40 --- 68
    November --- 14 -- 122
    December --- 60 --- 44
    January ---- 58 --- 89
    February --- 61 --- 75
    March ------ 64 --- 65
    April ------ 46 --- 61
    May -------- 50 --- 56
    June ------- 52 --- 47
    July -------- 3 --- 41
    August ------ 4 --- 10
    September --- 1

    Total ----- 453 -- 678


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  24. #2974
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan01 View Post
    Well there are two categories of porters from EB3 to EB2:
    1. Those who had EADs. This porting is difficult as the job requirements should match, etc.
    2. Those who never had EADs. This porting is easy as there is no requirement for job to be iwhtin same state, same description, same profile, same duties, etc.

    So far we have seen porting of cases of type(1) and that amounted to 300 porters a month when the date was 2004. If that date was 2008 then it would amount to 700 porters at least. Now with the combination of (1) and (2) it is going be much higher. If the PD stays at June08 then there will be both types of porting active (1) and (2).

    Also since the time the dates became unavailable (Jun 2012) the type (2) porting has been going on in the background. It is not subject bulletin dates and hence that continues. I am sure there are at least 10 k cases between Aug 2007 and June 2008 that would have been EB3 before the dates became unavailable in June 2012. These people have a lot of incentive and would have been converting to EB2 and I am thinking at least 5k of those might have already ported. That is where I come up with the figure of 5k to add to the already visible 7.5k that we have.

    That is the explanation of 12~12.5k before Oct 2008.
    We need to monitor the trackitt database to see how many people apply their I-485 for the first time in the month of September 2013. Then scaling it out will give you the number of porters which according to me might be around 5k. Trackitt usually represents 6% of the dataset. Thus if we see another 300 applications that are added to trackitt database then can conclude that in the real world there are 5000 type 2 porters that got into the queue in front of you.

    The longer the date stays at June 2008 the more the porting to be seen ahead of your PD.

    Spec,
    One question. My PD is Jan 2009. I initially was hoping that I might get current in FY2014 but now I am really tensed and am getting a negative feeling that it might not be the case. Any advice. Any number crunching on where we will end up in FY 2014.

  25. #2975
    Spec, Q, MATT, Teddy, and all other Gurus:

    I need some advice. I have always failed to understand the movement that happened between June 2011 to Mar 2012. For example, lets consider the Nov 2011 bulletin. According to the explanation read in the posts, we should have been getting 300 visas per month of EB2I. Oct 2011 I-485 inventory is attached below which shows that there were at least 8k applicants in the inventory before July 2007. When CO could only give 300 visas and there were more than 8k pending before July 2007 then why did the dates move ahead from July 2007 to Nov 2007 in the Nov 2011 bulletin. This was followed until Mar 2012 and I fail to understand the basis. It has always been beyond me to comprehend this movement.

    http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Green%20C...001%202011.pdf

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