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  1. #2826
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    I have rarely seen VB come out on Monday especially prior to 10th business day
    From the limited data I have, I see the following:
    Sep 2012 bulletin was released on Mon, Aug 13, 2012
    Oct 2012 bulletin was released on Mon, Sep 10, 2012
    Mar 2013 bulletin was released on Mon, Feb 11, 2013
    Apr 2013 bulletin was released on Mon, Mar 11, 2013

  2. #2827
    Quote Originally Posted by desitiger View Post
    Lol. I am pretty much doing the same but let me assure you that it is not coming out today. I am slowly accepting the fact that it might not come out tomorrow also.
    Me too even called up the 202 # where they said it will change from current bulletin to coming soon message if it is getting released today so looks it will not come out today also.

  3. #2828
    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine82 View Post
    Me too even called up the 202 # where they said it will change from current bulletin to coming soon message if it is getting released today so looks it will not come out today also.
    So, does the delay augur well for the hopeful's or not?

  4. #2829
    Good god! So there is hope you say!
    Quote Originally Posted by rferni View Post
    From the limited data I have, I see the following:
    Sep 2012 bulletin was released on Mon, Aug 13, 2012
    Oct 2012 bulletin was released on Mon, Sep 10, 2012
    Mar 2013 bulletin was released on Mon, Feb 11, 2013
    Apr 2013 bulletin was released on Mon, Mar 11, 2013
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  5. #2830
    This question might 've been already answered or answered over & over but what was the consensus figure on how much spillover for EB-2 was expected for this FY & how much of it might be given for Sep '13?

  6. #2831
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    Good god! So there is hope you say!
    That I dont know ... I present the data, not the interpretation ...

    The other thing I can tell historically is that when the release date has spilled into the third calendar week of the month, it has never gone past Monday - if it does this time, it would be a first.
    Also, August 2013 bulletin was released on 07/09 at 5:50 PM EDT - so there's plenty of time left...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rferni View Post
    That I dont know ... I present the data, not the interpretation ...

    The other thing I can tell historically is that when the release date has spilled into the third calendar week of the month, it has never gone past Monday - if it does this time, it would be a first.
    Also, August 2013 bulletin was released on 07/09 at 5:50 PM EDT - so there's plenty of time left...
    With the exception of 2007, every other Sept VB was released before the 10th of August.

  8. #2833
    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Gonzales View Post
    This doesn't match up with my data, but my data supports your main point. Recent Monday releases include last month's bulletin on July 8, 2013, Oct 2012 bulletin on Sep 10, 2012, August 2012 bulletin on July 9, 2012. Over 28 weekly bulletins since Apr 2002 have been released on Mondays, almost all before the 10th of the month. In fact, Monday's are the 2nd most common days for release of bulletin after Fridays (36).

    My data shows the Sep 2012 bulletin as having been released on Thu, Aug 9th; Mar 2013 on Friday Feb 8th and Apr 2013 on Fri, Mar 8th.
    Interesting ... clearly we are looking at different sources of data. I'll concede yours is probably better because mine was manual ... something i spent digging up online when i had many hours to spare on Friday. Thanks for corroborating my point with additional data.

  9. #2834
    Quote Originally Posted by vizcard View Post
    With the exception of 2007, every other Sept VB was released before the 10th of August.
    I disagree with that statement. June 2011 bulletin was released on May 11, 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Gonzales View Post
    Are we using different sources for this data? I used the date at the bottom of each visa bulletin.
    Pedro,

    That is not 100% reliable.

    For instance, the August 2013 VB has a date of July 8, 2013 which is probably when it was compiled, but the August 2013 VB was not released until July 9, 2013.

    PS:- Someone on Trackitt made the fair point that the recent Embassy/Consulate closures may have pushed the date back, since they would not have been able to report Demand until they were re-opened.
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  11. #2836
    Quote Originally Posted by rferni View Post
    Interesting ... clearly we are looking at different sources of data. I'll concede yours is probably better because mine was manual ... something i spent digging up online when i had many hours to spare on Friday. Thanks for corroborating my point with additional data.
    No my data was wrong, as I quickly confirmed by looking up this thread to see when the August bulletin was released. It looks like what I have is the date the VB was prepared, which, in many cases, was not the date that it was released.
    NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|

  12. #2837
    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Gonzales View Post
    No my data was wrong, as I quickly confirmed by looking up this thread to see when the August bulletin was released. It looks like what I have is the date the VB was prepared, which, in many cases, was not the date that it was released.
    Here's what I have based on the timing of when the DOS visa bulletin page was updated:

    Bulletin for Month of-----Date Released-----Day of Week
    Aug-13-----9-Jul-13----- Tue
    Jul-13-----7-Jun-13-----Fri
    Jun-13-----10-May-13-----Fri
    May-13-----10-Apr-13-----Wed
    Apr-13-----11-Mar-13-----Mon
    Mar-13-----11-Feb-13-----Mon
    Feb-13-----9-Jan-13-----Wed
    Jan-13-----11-Dec-12-----Tue
    Dec-12-----11/7/2012-----Wed
    Nov-12-----10/12/2012-----Fri
    Oct-12-----9/10/2012-----Mon
    Sep-12-----8/13/2012-----Mon

  13. #2838
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    Pedro,
    That is not 100% reliable. For instance, the August 2013 VB has a date of July 8, 2013 which is probably when it was compiled, but the August 2013 VB was not released until July 9, 2013.
    Exactly what I found out upon further research.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan01 View Post
    I disagree with that statement. June 2011 bulletin was released on May 11, 2011.
    But that wouldn't be a September VB, now, would it?
    NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|

  14. #2839
    Quote Originally Posted by rferni View Post
    Here's what I have based on the timing of when the DOS visa bulletin page was updated:

    Bulletin for Month of-----Date Released-----Day of Week
    Aug-13-----9-Jul-13----- Tue
    Jul-13-----7-Jun-13-----Fri
    Jun-13-----10-May-13-----Fri
    May-13-----10-Apr-13-----Wed
    Apr-13-----11-Mar-13-----Mon
    Mar-13-----11-Feb-13-----Mon
    Feb-13-----9-Jan-13-----Wed
    Jan-13-----11-Dec-12-----Tue
    Dec-12-----11/7/2012-----Wed
    Nov-12-----10/12/2012-----Fri
    Oct-12-----9/10/2012-----Mon
    Sep-12-----8/13/2012-----Mon
    On 3 of those days, they released the VB on the day they prepared it. On 7 they released it on the next business day. But the interesting ones were the September and November 2012 bulletins, where they released it 2 and 3 work days after they had prepared it. No holidays around that time, and neither VB had any surprising revelation, so not sure why they decided to hold off.

    Assuming those two were the exceptions and that they release the VB within a day of preparation in the vast majority of the cases, the VBs were prepared on the 12th or 13th only 6 times out of 136 and never later than then. Also, those VBs that were prepared that late resulted in forward movement twice, retrogression twice and no movement twice. So directionally, i can't read anything into it.

    Interestingly, 4 of the late releases centered around the events of summer 2007. These were the All-Current declaration of the July 2007 VB, the Unavailable of the August 2007, the movement back to Apr 2004 (where the EB2I PD had been prior to the fiasco) in September 2007 and the retrogression to Jan 2002 in December 2007.

  15. #2840
    it would be worthwhile to add your inference or guess - eitherway.

    If this data is true - it looks like first full friday or first half of second full week is the range of VB.
    Quote Originally Posted by rferni View Post
    Here's what I have based on the timing of when the DOS visa bulletin page was updated:

    Bulletin for Month of-----Date Released-----Day of Week
    Aug-13-----9-Jul-13----- Tue
    Jul-13-----7-Jun-13-----Fri
    Jun-13-----10-May-13-----Fri
    May-13-----10-Apr-13-----Wed
    Apr-13-----11-Mar-13-----Mon
    Mar-13-----11-Feb-13-----Mon
    Feb-13-----9-Jan-13-----Wed
    Jan-13-----11-Dec-12-----Tue
    Dec-12-----11/7/2012-----Wed
    Nov-12-----10/12/2012-----Fri
    Oct-12-----9/10/2012-----Mon
    Sep-12-----8/13/2012-----Mon
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  16. #2841
    Q,Spec,

    Would like to know if you are still optimistic about movement in Sep bulletin.

    My guess is no movement to Feb 2008 at the max. No data or any info to support.

    Eagerly waiting for Wednesday....

  17. #2842
    Hi guys,

    I have good information that EB2-I will move beyond April 2008 as I came to know of a Consular Processing interview already scheduled for mid April 2008 priority date.

  18. #2843
    Quote Originally Posted by inspired_p View Post
    Hi guys,

    I have good information that EB2-I will move beyond April 2008 as I came to know of a Consular Processing interview already scheduled for mid April 2008 priority date.
    When is the CP interview and when was the interview scheduled?

  19. #2844
    Quote Originally Posted by inspired_p View Post
    Hi guys,

    I have good information that EB2-I will move beyond April 2008 as I came to know of a Consular Processing interview already scheduled for mid April 2008 priority date.
    That is good to know. I always wondered Consular Processing might have best hints about cutoff dates well in advance because Consulates are supposed to intimate the applicant around 60-90 days before when they think the PD may become current. That being said, EB-2 I is beyond any logical reasoning now. They themselves had to wait until the very last 60 days to determine and allocate the spillovers. I doubt the consulates are in a position to notify the candidates because CO's office itself may not have a clue until the very last moment. And then by the time it really becomes current, only a month is left before which next fiscal year starts and the dates have to be moved back.

    Hope what you said is true, but tough to believe because I myself filed I-824 and had the case transferred to Consular Processing last year. I have a PD of March 18, 2008. I am back in US now and would like to take the route of I-485 now, but still, technically my address in India would have been notified by now if what you said applies to my case.

    The case you are referring to, when is the interview scheduled for? Is that a continuation of something that was started last year? Or a fresh case that started this year?

  20. #2845
    Quote Originally Posted by axialtilt View Post
    That is good to know. I always wondered Consular Processing might have best hints about cutoff dates well in advance because Consulates are supposed to intimate the applicant around 60-90 days before when they think the PD may become current. That being said, EB-2 I is beyond any logical reasoning now. They themselves had to wait until the very last 60 days to determine and allocate the spillovers. I doubt the consulates are in a position to notify the candidates because CO's office itself may not have a clue until the very last moment. And then by the time it really becomes current, only a month is left before which next fiscal year starts and the dates have to be moved back.

    Hope what you said is true, but tough to believe because I myself filed I-824 and had the case transferred to Consular Processing last year. I have a PD of March 18, 2008. I am back in US now and would like to take the route of I-485 now, but still, technically my address in India would have been notified by now if what you said applies to my case.

    The case you are referring to, when is the interview scheduled for? Is that a continuation of something that was started last year? Or a fresh case that started this year?

    As far as i know - it is fresh case , he never filed I-485 till now and he was intimated some 2 weeks back and interview is first or second week of September.

    Thanks & Regards

  21. #2846
    Quote Originally Posted by inspired_p View Post
    As far as i know - it is fresh case , he never filed I-485 till now and he was intimated some 2 weeks back and interview is first or second week of September.

    Thanks & Regards
    Thanks for sharing. If the source of the information is true, it is indeed positive news for many waiting. By tomorrow this time we may have the VB, until that time anxiety continues..

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    Quote Originally Posted by inspired_p View Post
    As far as i know - it is fresh case , he never filed I-485 till now and he was intimated some 2 weeks back and interview is first or second week of September.

    Thanks & Regards
    inspired_p,

    Let me assure you, I don't doubt you. Is it possible the person has an earlier PD from a previous I-140?

    I can't see how an interview date for a PD of mid April 2008 under EB2-I can possibly have been set up yet, since CO has not yet determined the Cut Off Dates.

    The process is for the DOS to allocate the visas to Consulates for applicants who will be Current at the time the VB is published. Only then can the interview date be set up, because before then, the Consulate does not know that they have a visa available for that applicant.

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Immi...ation%20of.pdf

    1. HOW THE SYSTEM OPERATES:

    At the beginning of each month, the Visa Office (VO) receives a report from each consular post listing totals of documentarily qualified immigrant visa applicants in categories subject to numerical limitation. Cases are grouped by foreign state chargeability/preference/priority date.

    No names are reported. During the first week of each month, this documentarily qualified demand is tabulated.

    VO subdivides the annual preference and foreign state limitations specified by the INA into monthly allotments. The totals of documentarily qualified applicants which have been reported to VO, are compared each month with the numbers available for the next regular allotment. The determination of how many numbers are available requires consideration of several of variables, including: past number use; estimates of future number use and return rates; and estimates of Citizenship and Immigration Service demand based on cut-off date movements. Once this is done, the cut-off dates are established and numbers are allocated to reported applicants in order of their priority dates, the oldest dates first.

    .....

    VO attempts to establish the cut-off dates for the following month on or about the 8th of each month. The dates are immediately transmitted to consular posts and Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS), and also published in the Visa Bulletin and online at the CA Web site (www.travel.state.gov). Visa allotments for use during that month are transmitted to consular posts.

    CIS requests visa allotments for adjustment of status cases only when all other case processing has been completed.
    Certainly, Packet 4 (or whatever it is called now) is sent to the applicant for completion and return ahead of when dates might become Current in the near future.

    I'm a little confused.
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  23. #2848
    Yes I don't see why not.
    Quote Originally Posted by inspired_p View Post
    Hi guys,

    I have good information that EB2-I will move beyond April 2008 as I came to know of a Consular Processing interview already scheduled for mid April 2008 priority date.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
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  24. #2849
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    inspired_p,

    Let me assure you, I don't doubt you. Is it possible the person has an earlier PD from a previous I-140?

    I can't see how an interview date for a PD of mid April 2008 under EB2-I can possibly have been set up yet, since CO has not yet determined the Cut Off Dates.

    The process is for the DOS to allocate the visas to Consulates for applicants who will be Current at the time the VB is published. Only then can the interview date be set up, because before then, the Consulate does not know that they have a visa available for that applicant.



    Certainly, Packet 4 (or whatever it is called now) is sent to the applicant for completion and return ahead of when dates might become Current in the near future.

    I'm a little confused.
    Inspired... thanks for sharing the news and as everyone else we would love for this to happen but I had been tracking these kinds of cases and most of them had some previous PD's which the users forgot about and kind of raised false hopes... not saying this is the case but just wanted to double-check... so if it is possible can you confirm with the source if he/she never had any previous PD under any category that they forgot about and only have EB2 I PD with mid-april 2008.

  25. #2850
    There were folks that checked the Bombay consulate's website at some point early in the morning for an early release of the bulletin. Does anyone know what that site was and what time the updates usually came?
    NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|

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