Thanks MATT for chiming in...as usual your response is to the point!
Yes, I recall seeing that discussion sometime back. I guess if the DD is released this month (which looks unlikely IMO), it should answer that question.
Thanks MATT for chiming in...as usual your response is to the point!
Yes, I recall seeing that discussion sometime back. I guess if the DD is released this month (which looks unlikely IMO), it should answer that question.
Last edited by longwait100; 08-07-2013 at 09:09 PM.
Matt,Originally Posted by MATT2012
I have a slightly different view, depending on what the phrase "visas get blocked". If you mean Reserved, I wouldn't agree.
For CP cases, which are reported in advance of the VB, the visas are reserved and transmitted to the Consulates when the VB is published. They are untouchable and must either be used for the cases they have been allocated to, or subsequently returned.
For USCIS, the system is different. When the VB is published, a list of previously reported cases already in the Demand that have become Current is sent electronically to USCIS from the IVAMS system, listing the cases that have become Current by Category and Country.
To use the visa, USCIS need to complete processing of the case, but they are not reserved in the same way that the CP visas are. They can effectively be "used" by another case outside the Demand if it is adjudicated first.
It's a fundamental difference in the way that DOS process cases versus USCIS. DOS know their Demand in advance, whereas USCIS only create Demand when a case is processed to approval or pre-adjudication. In either case, the visa is only used by USCIS when the case is completed. DOS have full visibility of their Demand for the month in advance, whereas USCIS do not.
If USCIS process cases to completion from outside the Demand already reported then those cases will receive a visa. If the total number of visas available run out, then those cases reported from the Demand may not have a visa available to them, if they are adjudicated after visa number availability has expired. Those cases will simply remain in the Demand Data, as will cases that were in the Demand that USCIS simply don't get round to completing. They will be reported again to USCIS the next month the PD is Current.
That's why people get "left behind", because USCIS do not know what their Demand is in advance.
For Categories that are Current and remain so, there is no known advance Demand to DOS from USCIS.
Matt,
I am not sure what you mean by visas getting blocked.
earlier there was a question whether the GC's are issued even when PD is not current as the visas might be locked/blocked ( I am paraphrasing but you can see my earlier post), I answered that once the dates retrogress then the application ( lets say mine or yours when PD is not current in October ) cannot be approved.
Spec,
My comment was for I-485 cases and was based on the below wordings. I know they do miss some cases somehow, and I agree with you on that part. Also I am in agreement that USCIS will go case by case before the final approval.
Is my understanding wrong??
Thanks,
Matt
1) THE OPERATION OF THE IMMIGRANT NUMERICAL CONTROL SYSTEM
Visa numbers are always allotted for all documentarily qualified applicants with a priority date
before the relevant cut-off date, as long as the case had been reported to VO in time to be
included in the monthly calculation of visa availability.
2) IVAMS
http://srwlawyers.com/department-of-...n-information/
When a USCIS authorization is made from the “pending” demand file an e-mail message is sent to a single address which each CIS Office has provided to the Immigrant Control and Reporting Division. The first page(s) of the message provides a summary listing of the A-numbers which have been authorized, and the following pages contain an individual authorization page for each A-number. That listing would be the same type as received if the case had been authorized when the USCIS Officer had originally submitted the request. Such authorizations are assumed to have been processed to conclusion during the month of authorization. If not, USCIS must notify VO that the case was not processed, the case record would then be deleted, and the case would be resubmitted to VO once the reasons for the deletion have been resolved.
If the Officer believes that a case should have been authorized, but has not received such notification, the program which is used to submit requests has a feature for checking on the status of individual A-numbers.
Indiani: I was just interpreting the above mentioned. The last statement clearly mentions that some cases don't get authorized, not sure why.
Last edited by MATT2012; 08-08-2013 at 12:01 AM.
"That way we can still expect us getting GCs even when the dates retrogress" from post #161
I think using the term "blocked" might lead someone to think that above is a possibility and the entire discussion started from there.
I think we can all agree that once dates retrogress we CANNOT get GC.
Did interfiling request, basically switching primary on applications.. got the magic email today morning within a week of filing the request...
Thanks everyone for the wonderful journey..
Good Luck
Congratulations!!
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Hey guys, I am first time 485 filer on 1st Aug with PD Dec 07. The cheque that I issued for i485 filing has been cleared in my bank. What does that mean? It means that USCIS has started processing my case or have just issued receipt#?
Many congratulations bloke! Happy for you!
I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.
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Means that they have received and processed payment. It is not an indicator of processing the application (one way or the other).
An Updated version of my previous post.
A little summary of where the August approvals are currently (which will immediately out of date). It's, as usual, based on primary applicants who have updated the Trackitt I-485 tracker with the approval.
Total to date - 130
Aug 1 -- 17
Aug 2 -- 23
Aug 3 -- 10
Aug 4 --- 0
Aug 5 -- 22
Aug 6 -- 24
Aug 7 -- 33
Aug 8 --- 1
Total - 130
Service Center
Nebraska -- 88 -- 67.69%
Texas ----- 41 -- 31.54%
California - 1 --- 0.77%
Vermont ---- 0 --- 0.00%
Total ---- 130 - 100.00%
Priority Date
PD ---- EB2 -- EB3 -- Total
2003 ---- 0 ---- 0 ------ 0
2004 --- 12 ---- 1 ----- 13
2005 --- 15 ---- 4 ----- 19
2006 --- 26 ---- 2 ----- 28
2007 --- 70 ---- 0 ----- 70
Total - 123 ---- 7 ---- 130
Pre 2007 PD - 60 -- 46.15%
2007 PD ----- 70 -- 53.85%
Total ------ 130 - 100.00%
Prior to August, there were 129 approvals in FY2013.
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Thank you Viz.
Congratulations!!!
I expected a flood of approvals on this forum - but so far we just got 3! Hope things change for good soon and many more will be able to share the magic moments!!!
NSC || PD: 09-Jul 2008 || RD: 05-Jan-2012 || ND: 10-Jan-2012 || FP Notice:01-Feb-2012 || FP Appmt: 24-Feb-2012 || FP earlt walk-in completed: 09-Feb-2012 || EAD/AP Approved: 14 Feb 2012 || EAD/AP Card Rcvd: 21 Feb 2012 || I-485: 20 Mar 2012 || Cards in hand: 26 Mar 2012
congrats bloke
The approvals are still coming through, although they seem to be more from NSC.
NSC | PD: Sept, 2007 | RD: 21-Nov, 2011 | ND: 29-Nov, 2011 | FP Notice: 27-Dec,2011| FP Done: 27-Dec,2011
EAD/AP(Approval Email): 5-Jan, 2012 | EAD/AP(Physical Card): 11-Jan, 2012
GC(Approval Email): 08/16/2013 | GC(Physical Card): ??
Finally filed my I 485 with dec 2007 PD last week. waiting to see what is next.
Same here.. a painful wait ..!!
Congrats !
TSC or NSC?
Spec,
based on the data you have just compiled, is it fair to say that so far in august 2K+ GC's are approved for EB2I.
It would actually be 3.5K+ (including dependents). That's a pretty big number for just 1 week of approvals.
That is a way too high, considering 5 working days. At this rate, numbers inlcuding prospective SOs will exhaust in 3wks. This cannot be true!
lets see what spec has to say.
3.5%K seems too high to me but I do not have a good idea how to convert to total approvals,
my approx. estimation is 2-3K.
I would say it represents somewhere around 2.2k, including dependents. It's perhaps a little more than that, since I expect more people to update their cases eventually. That number is skewed upwards slightly, because I use different % depending on the PD of the approval. Pre 2007 case currently form a significant % of approvals reported.
PS to vizcard:- the % figures I mentioned previously to convert Trackitt primary cases to actual numbers includes adding the dependent cases as well (about 1 dependent per primary for EB2).
Currently, the approval rate is about 10k for the full month, based on working days, but that is increasing at the moment, since yesterday was a very productive day.
Last edited by Spectator; 08-08-2013 at 01:07 PM.
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Spec,
What % of the Eb2's approved so far would you attribute to porters. i.e ~2K approved on Eb2, but 500 of them were EB3-EB2?
PD : 01/11/2008 RD-ND : 12-19/12/2012 FP : 02/13/2012 EAD/AP : 01/26/2012 GC : 03/22/2012
Then that would make sense. 3.5K just seemed too high. If you extrapolate 2.2K for one week, that's almost 9K for the month. Doesn't that seem high? Ofcourse the ones now would theoretically be easier and quicker to approve since they are pre-adjudicated or are being interfiled.
Am I missing something?
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