Discussion of Bills that remove the Per Country Limits - H.R.3012, H,R. 213

[seahawks2012]

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[PD2008AUG25]

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Ridiculous. Why put headline like "Tech sector gets big win on visas from Uncle Sam", just to write "The House bill, however, isn't likely to go anywhere in the Senate." in the body?

I am very much pessimistic about passage of any immigration related bill in this congress or the next. Dems are being too cocky after Obama victory and Republicans, as usual, intransigent. It is hard to expect them to agree on even scope of bill, much less the details.

Most appalling is this quote from Gutierrez ‏"There was not an asterisk on the Statue of Liberty that said 'your IQ must be this high to enter.'" Just let everyone in.

[seahawks2012]

I agree about the title for the article.

On a slightly different tangent, none of the bills talk about the pain point of not being able to file for EAD until the priority date is current. If the wait time is going to be in few years, then having an EAD helps remove dependency on H1-B and its renewal/stamping non-sense. It would make life much easier for many people waiting for the green cards if they had EAD.

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It is quite frustrating to go through H1-B renewal process as now a days it is taking 5 months unless ofcourse if you pay for "Premium Processing". Most companies for H1-B renewal do not do "Premium Processing" they do that only when hiring a new employee. In addition, having the EAD also helps Spouse to have flexible job - basically live a normal life!
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[gs1968]

All talk and no action

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...gration-reform

[gs1968]

This from the LA times today-

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,1954734.story

I realize that a lot of this has been already hashed before but it specifically mentions worker visas.However what form this may take is still uncertain.

One other note of caution to people who may be in a position to sponsor parents for green cards. The last immigration overhaul attempt in 2007 had a provision to limit parents visas annually instead of the numerical exemption like now to decrease chain migration.So the progress of any legislation needs to be watched closely

[rupen86]

This from the LA times today-

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,1954734.story

I realize that a lot of this has been already hashed before but it specifically mentions worker visas.However what form this may take is still uncertain.

One other note of caution to people who may be in a position to sponsor parents for green cards. The last immigration overhaul attempt in 2007 had a provision to limit parents visas annually instead of the numerical exemption like now to decrease chain migration.So the progress of any legislation needs to be watched closely

Another article focusing on legal immigration.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...ent-84713.html

The problem I see that when legal immigration talk comes in to play, STEM bill comes up and they seem to be suggesting that it is the bill which will solve legal immigration problems. I hope, it does not stay limited to STEM. STEM is not going to reduce backlogs in EB categories to the extent 3012 would have done. I hope, other measures like recapturing visas and not counting dependent in the quota get included.

From Oh law firm, there is 'gang of 8' working on a bill.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...772.html?hp=l1

Some of the people in this 'gang of 8' like Bob Menendez have introduced bills in the past who have included above aspects. So, I hope they come up with the bill which will seriously address EB problem.

[immitime]

Another article focusing on legal immigration.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...ent-84713.html

The problem I see that when legal immigration talk comes in to play, STEM bill comes up and they seem to be suggesting that it is the bill which will solve legal immigration problems. I hope, it does not stay limited to STEM. STEM is not going to reduce backlogs in EB categories to the extent 3012 would have done. I hope, other measures like recapturing visas and not counting dependent in the quota get included.

From Oh law firm, there is 'gang of 8' working on a bill.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...772.html?hp=l1

Some of the people in this 'gang of 8' like Bob Menendez have introduced bills in the past who have included above aspects. So, I hope they come up with the bill which will seriously address EB problem.

All big show offs. next 4 years nothing is going to happen on Legal immigration front. The only chance is after 2014 elections if democrats takes congress and senate then there is a slight chance. But a that time they will make 11 million illegals as US citizens, then also all will be waiting in EB queue, that is the fact.

For now all sweet talks will subside. See the fate of STEM bill both parties will have same bill with little difference and fillisbuster each other. Political crows fighting. This WH is against Legal immigration. (full stop)

[axecapone]

Question around HR 213. I see that there is some activity going on in that bill. It started with a handful of co-sponsors and now it has 39 of them. I am wondering what is the significance of this (if any)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...213/cosponsors

[geterdone]

Question around HR 213. I see that there is some activity going on in that bill. It started with a handful of co-sponsors and now it has 39 of them. I am wondering what is the significance of this (if any)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...213/cosponsors

I don't think it will become a law. Even if it passes house it will stall in senate. Hope I am wrong!

Few weeks back there was some talk about some legal action against per country limits on this forum. Is something still happening?

[mesan123]

Well got update from our Local congressmen, he is co-sponsoring the Hr213 bill, and the secretary told she is still waiting for DHS reply and WH....DHS acknowledge the queries from the congressmen and still o reply from them....planning to meet congressmen .....she told she will find his schedule and book an appointment......once i get it will post here......

Well Thank you Q for always mentioning we should try, it did work, yes it involved more persistence to keep following up, so please everyone try to contact your local congressmen , few might be Anti, but there might be few who will help out.

[abcx13]

I wonder if at this point we should solely focus on removing per country limits. Then it will become everyone's problem - French, German, Japanese, etc. Right now I think no one cares because it's Indian and Chinese. I just wrote to Paul Ryan, Bob Goodlatte, and Trey Gowdy about HR213. And also to the WH about the EAD and per country limits. It may not do any good but I think we need a consistent message. That other forum - Immigration awaaz - doesn't seem to be achieving s***.