Harry Reid had said that next bill (after surface transport and postal) is "Obama Jobs bill". Senate calendar gives you some insight on the status and schedule for current (surface transport) bill... Once this is thru... Harry can bring up the "Obama Jobs bill" which includes HR3012. That is the reason I had posted Senate schedule.Originally Posted by kd2008
Hope it helps.
Apologies if I missed it, but how do we know HR3012 will come up in the Senate when the Jobs bill is taken up?
I read the article. It mentions that the JOBS bill has 6 bills in it. Do we know what those bills are if any mention of H.R. 3012 is in it?
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...t-in-the-house
And (pdf):
http://thehill.com/images/stories/bl...012/hr3606.pdf
TSC || PD: Aug 08 2007 || Receive date: Nov 08 || EAD/AP: Jan 24 || RFE for birth certificate: Feb 27 || Response received: Mar 5 || CPO email: Mar 13
No, it does not mention HR 3012. Please let me know if this is not correct.
Yea.....H.R. 3012 is not in the bills mentioned in the JOBS Act. Dunno if it would get added, but so far i dont see any mention of H.R. 3012 in the JOBS Act.
To PsychedelicNerd
There is room for hope yet.Even though the House Version does not contain the 3012 provisions,according to the article below Sen Reid wants to pass a Senate version of small business bills and reconcile in conference. I agree with other forum members that this most likely is not going to contain any immigration provisions as the Bill is designed mainly to increase access to capital for small businesses. In any case he has not provided any timeline for this legislation and it appears like after the transportation Bill he plans to confirm 12 judges and work on postal or cyber-security legislation.The transportation Bill should extend well into next week as there are no Roll Call votes tomorrow or Monday. For people who are keeping track-we are now past 100 days since passage of 3012 in the House and the limbo is still continuing!
http://www.rollcall.com/news/senate_...ml?pos=htmbtxt
House passed jobs act. No HR3012 in it.
From the link below, see the comment from HArry Reid..
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday he would introduce similar legislation next week and “move as quickly as we can” to pass it, but said a highway bill current under consideration in the Senate would create more jobs faster than the House proposal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...zexR_blog.html
To idiotic
Thanks for the link.In any case it is unlikely that immigration provisions are going to be included in the business startup Bill but one can still hope!
I would agree. Unrelated topics. If anything HR3012 will be negatively perceived in this context.
Same story, same rant...
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/GOP...142298295.html
<sigh>
I think i saw the number of pages go up to 59 for this thread. And now its 58? Are the posts being deleted?
I deleted few of my old posts which I found irrelevant now. Good observation
Some hope still exists
http://irishecho.com/?p=70330
Irish news sites are the least reliable when it comes to E3 or HR 3012. So don't pin our hopes around Irish news sites or E3.
Yahoo reports there is high political drama on the HR 3012 and irish bill..Interesting to read...
TechNet is planning a major valley fundraiser for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky this spring. A major goal of the event will be pressing the Republican leader to urge Grassley to lift his hold on the Chaffetz bill.
http://news.yahoo.com/gridlocked-203444171.html
Last edited by vickywac; 03-14-2012 at 11:10 PM.
Thanks for the excellent link vickywac.
I am intrigued by these... had not seen these before and am not sure how to validate these from another source. (Am I the only one who hasn't seen these before?)
Note that Grassley had placed a hold on 3012 before the Irish bill came to life. If the first bulleted statement is correct, it means that negotiations have yielded "some" result with him. It also means that the only thing holding the passing of 3012 is the Irish bill(Scott or Schumer)....
Trying to determine exactly how the popular Chaffetz proposal got mired in this mess is like chasing an earring down a sink drain. To sum up:
• Grassley says he is willing to lift his hold on H.R. 3012 if Schumer backs off his Irish-visa proposal.
• Schumer says that Democrats aren’t the holdup; it’s actually a Republican, Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, who shot his mouth off to a bunch of Irish constituents back home, saying that the Irish-visa bill was “about to pop.” Massachusetts—where Brown expects a tough reelection fight—is the hub of the Ireland lobby.
• Brown says he has not placed a hold on the Chaffetz proposal and supports it in principle. But he also wants the Irish-visa bill to pass, and he won’t say whether he would block the Chaffetz bill if the Irish measure doesn’t move with it.
• Grassley, meanwhile, has offered Schumer a chance for an up-or-down vote on the Irish-visa bill, provided the required skill levels get tweaked and the special-visa program has an end date. There’s no word yet on whether Schumer will accept the offer.
...
I'd suggest we not get too engrossed with this piece of information till verified from some other source.
To Vickywac and Manubhai
I agree with you but the earlier part of the article also says quite clearly that Sen.Grassley wants to add H-1B reform agenda to it as this may be the only chance for years.I think the article contradicts itself but we have to wait and see. Harry Reid also wants to attach DREAM legislation according to some weekend reports
I think what is interesting is that there is a lot of behind-the-scenes wrangling going on and I* carries less weight than the tech lobby. There's still hope I guess.
This seems to be the real story
Also here http://www.nationaljournal.com/featu...d-out-20120314
To abcx13
The country cap elimination idea has been around for more than 4 years well before ** got involved (since 2008)
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h5921/comments
Ms.Lofgren has been promoting this and visa re-capture since atleast the 110th congress.The only reason this has become contentious is that it made to the floor of the House and passed which the earlier Bills did not
The article in question seems full of contraindications and it is easy to see why other forum members are advising caution in interpreting this. It says that in summary Grassley will lift his hold if Irish provision is dropped whereas nowhere in the article prior to that is such a statement seen.
I also remember reading on immigration-law.com that Sens. Vitter and Sessions had objected to the Irish Bill although I could never find a valid media source
Also a lot of this information/lobbying is from early February and we are already in the 2nd half of march with no progress.Lots of legislation is reactive and in an election year it remains to be seen how much interest there is to negotiating and moving this forward
National Journal article in MSNBC. This is making quite big news in mainstream media.
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/46749576
To vickywac
Thanks for providing us with the link.However this is unlikely to change things much because as we discussed earlier,the dynamics in that story are from early February and much water has flown under the bridge since
I feel that the link below is a bigger story
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74065.html
The battle for control of the senate is going to be very tight in the forthcoming elections and MA is a key race.The Democrats gave Sen.Brown a victory with the STOCK Act 9yet to be conferenced and signed in to law though) and are unlikely to help him again.Even if Sen.Schumer's Bill is passed,Sen.Brown is going to take credit for garnering the Republican votes to pass the Irish E-3.Sen Schumer is not up for re-election till 2016 and has ample time for getting this done. On the other hand,if the Senate does change hands and Sen.Grassley assumes chairmanship of the Sen.Judiciary Committee, it is going to be even more difficult to get anything like this through committee and passed into law.We will wait and see as usual
I just came across this article
http://www.irishcentral.com/story/ne...142910915.html
Again a re-hash of what we know already and whether this changes anything is anybody's guess
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