thanks for the clarification.
thanks for the clarification.
No updates on the bill...but it looks like on 23rd somewhere between 2 & 4 PM, they will bring up 3012 for 2nd reading..Originally Posted by lalaji
there are 2 bills which were read 1st time on Dec. 17....another one is H.R. 440..
Excellent article on Rule 14.
http://www.llsdc.org/attachments/wys...RS-RS22299.pdf
Excellent indeed...Thanks for sharing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...KpP_story.html
still people are tring to push the immigration bill....hope to see some moment...one more week wait for senate to start ...fingers crossed
Thanks mesan, fingers crossed,,monday s less thn a week away
My estimation is that proponents of the bill will still continue to try to persuade Sen. G to remove his hold. Invoking cloture to overcome the hold and/or filibuster will be the last resort option. Moreover, Sen. G. is the ranking member of Senate judiciary committee, and the unless the Republican support for the bill is near unanimous along with the Democrats, nobody is going to take the lead to bring the bill to vote. This bill is really not that important to any of the Senators to risk anything in an election cycle.
It is going to be a classic cat and mouse game. If Sen. G gives in, he will surely extract the pound of flesh in amendments he wants which renders the bill useless, after and if, it is sent back to the House with amendments.
At this stage, the tool of persuasion rests with Sen. Reid - the majority leader and Sen. McConnell, the minority leader. Since this bill was originally proposed by a Republican, Sen. Reid has no incentive to risk himself for it. I guess, so it rests with Sen. McConnell to take the lead. I don't think anyone is persuading him at all right now - at least not in public view.
With another political fight over continuation of payroll tax cut, Keystone pipeline, Debt ceiling looming, nobody is in the mood to show any bipartisanship.
So just lets continue to urge our Senators to support it, be patient, sit tight and watch.
From president job council--Latest -- HR3012 listed
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=275098
There is also a possibility that Reid will lead 3012 because of change in FB category cap in this bill. Last election Reid had hard time getting elected...there were few reasons but if i remember correctly one of the reasons was, his support/votes from hispanic community had dropped because of Failure of DREAM act...and taking lead on this bill may help him a little... not only Reid, all other democrats need this to excite their latino base to not loose senate majority this year...and this will help them a little(FB Cap in this bill)
I also think, there is a possibility DREAM Act will surface again before election...but chances of passing DREAM are close to "0%"...but for political reasons Dems will want to bring up DREAM ACt before election..so this bill is the closest they can get (passed) to any Family Based Immigration reform this election year and with minority in the house. I am hoping to see more happen this year specially Smith in the house is being active in Legal Immigration reform but I still fear something wrong may come out of Republican sponsored immigration bill.
I don't know what happened in last month behind the doors during break and I don't know if there were any deals made between Dems and Reps on 3012 but almost all Dems. would vote for this bill along with Liberman. (close to 50)
From Reps side i think Collins has record of going across the isle and Senator Graham and McCain would be great to contact from Republican side since they have been proponents of immigration reform in the past. Mike Lee supports this bill along with Rubio, Brown, Blunt, Boozman, Risch, & Wicker. (We already have 7 Rep Senators) Grassley has influence on Reps but since 3012 is Republican bill, they should not have problem getting 10-15 Republican votes.
I do think it has to happen soon (hopefully without amendments) before they all get into campaign mode.,,..because after that it can be little difficult to get anything passed in congress. Amendments might be difficult to avoid in Senate.
but Lets hope for the best.
Last edited by jackbrown_890; 01-19-2012 at 10:39 AM.
From people I talked to - Letting Sen. G go ahead with the filibuster is a pandora's box. He may conflate it with American jobs, media will pick on it and the bill will get drowned in the opposition. The change in FB category is to appease "No piecemeal, CIR only" folks. Sen. Reid couldn't care less about the FB provision. He is in office for next 5 yrs.
Sen. Grassley is Mr. "No". He is objecting the nomination of Indian American - Ajit Varadaraj Pai, of Kansas, to be a Member
of the Federal Communications Commission. So sad.
White House response to petition for GC for advanced degree holders
Please see in appropriate thread here:
http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...degree-holders
Lalaji,
I appreciate your effort in posting links and bringing attention to published material. But when you post a link, please also write a sentence or two to specify what this link is about and how it is pertinent to the thread or the issue being discussed.
The aim isn't to discourage from sharing, but I went through the link above, and I am still not sure what it has to do with immigration, immigration advocacy, or the relevant bills and laws being discussed here.
The relevance is just that "Jobs council" had also recommended HR3012 as one of the many GOP bills Obama should consider.
some more relevant posting reg job council which may benefil HR3012
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...tion_year.html
Here is the report by Obama's Jobs council. http://files.jobs-council.com/files/...dReportWeb.pdf
Hopefully, Obama acts on the report rather than just plays election politics and create bitter environment between Senators from two parties.
Last edited by pakkpk; 01-23-2012 at 11:40 AM.
Finally it is Jan23rd.....senate will be back today.... hope they bring the HR 3012 or bill similar to that soon ....
If anyone is watching C-span (Senate) after 2, please report here any activity on 3012.
Thank you
3012 has been read 2nd time,
what is next?
Jackbrown, could you please let us know what happened? Was it referred to a committee after that? Was it scheduled for a vote?
It should show up in Senate Calender under general orders tomorrow...
there is no update on debate/vote on 3012 from anyone yet.
Thank you for the update
It was reported to be placed on the calendar
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