Discussion of Bills that remove the Per Country Limits - H.R.3012, H,R. 213

[self.coach]

Damn..what the heck? The voting is cancelled instead of being postponed to 6.30PM. Why did they drop the bill? Not enough members present?

[self.coach]

Maybe not cancelled...I am not sure how this goes. Anyone here? If enough majority/quorum is not present at 6.30pm what will they do - will they continue voting for it?

Damn..what the heck? The voting is cancelled instead of being postponed to 6.30PM. Why did they drop the bill? Not enough members present?

[manubhai]

I am not sure. My assumption here is that voting (as per calendar) is to happen at 6:30. This was just a "Hellos and Thank Yous" period. Reps/Senators don't decide their votes based on these speeches by other reps/senators. They have already decided. So they don't need to be present for the "Hellos and Thank Yous".

That said... they better be present for voting.

[gcq]

Sorry, I could only get bits and pieces as I was simultaneously attending a meeting, but I don't think the voting is canceled altogether. Is it? I think it will still be voted at 6.30 PM and no one voiced any opposition to this bill. Correct me if I am wrong.

Voting was originally scheduled for 6:30. As all these bills are unanimous consent bills, discussion doesn't matter. That may be the reason that quorum was not present. They will reconvene at 6:30 and proceed straight to voting.

[jackbrown_890]

From the sister websites, it seems like most of the Reps are lazy and do not attend floor debates, and they should return at least to drop the votes as per the House floor schedule. If the quorum (aka > 218 reps) was present, voting might have been possible right now, but it seems like a rarity in case of most non controversial bills.

So we should expect voting at 6.30 PM. However the caveat is if the quorum is not present today, voting won't happen. We will see what goes.

"Because of Members' other duties, a quorum often is not present on the House floor. But any Member may insist that a quorum must participate in any vote that takes place in the House. If a member makes a point of order that a quorum is not present, and the Speaker agrees, a series of bells ring on the House side of the Capitol and in the House office buildings to alert Members to come to the Chamber and record their presence."
but debate conclusion says "The point of no quorum was withdrawn."
So lets wait and see what happens at 6.30

[gcq]

http://majorityleader.gov/Floor/
On Tuesday, the House will meet at 2:00 p.m. for legislative business.
Votes will be postponed until 6:30 p.m.

[jackbrown_890]

Here s little bit more information:
When a point of no quorum is made, no ‘‘business’’ is in order. The point may be withdrawn or withheld until announcement of absence of a quorum, after which the point may not be withdrawn even by unanimous consent.

Withdrawal of a point of no quorum does not require unanimous consent.

Where objection is made to a vote on the ground that a quorum is not present and, pursuant to a special order, the Speaker declares that further proceedings will be put over until the following day, it is too late for another Member to demand tellers on the question, even though the point of no quorum is subsequently withdrawn.

[self.coach]

Why did they not do the same for the subsequent bills HR 2192, HR 1801 and HR 2465? If the quorum is not present for the first, obviously they were not present for all others too? Still I see there was more debate on this - did new reps arrive for the other three?

Anyways, I assume in simple English what you mean is "relax and wait for 6.30 PM", correct?

Here s little bit more information:
When a point of no quorum is made, no ‘‘business’’ is in order. The point may be withdrawn or withheld until announcement of absence of a quorum, after which the point may not be withdrawn even by unanimous consent.

Withdrawal of a point of no quorum does not require unanimous consent.

Where objection is made to a vote on the ground that a quorum is not present and, pursuant to a special order, the Speaker declares that further proceedings will be put over until the following day, it is too late for another Member to demand tellers on the question, even though the point of no quorum is subsequently withdrawn.

[gcq]

Why did they not do the same for the subsequent bills HR 2192, HR 1801 and HR 2465? If the quorum is not present for the first, obviously they were not present for all others too? Still I see there was more debate on this - did new reps arrive for the other three?

Anyways, I assume in simple English what you mean is "relax and wait for 6.30 PM", correct?

Quorum rules need to be followed only if a member raises a point of order for the same. For HR 3012, a member raised point of order, so voice vote was suspended.

[gkjppp]

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...ng-india-china

[vizcard]

They debate all the bills. Plus someone has to raise a motion related to quorum. If no one does, then its not an issue. If someone does, then it gets "postponed" to the voting session.

[kiran_july_2004]

This worked for me...

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house

[soggadufan]

http://www.gop.gov/legdigest/floor

[vizcard]

This worked for me...

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house

Is this bill purely a PD-based system then? So for the next year or so, only India & China would be processed? Is that right?

[gcq]

We need 2/3rds in favor. 290 votes needed.

[girish989]

We need 2/3rds in favor. 290 votes needed.

I see 56 /2 7 minutes into the vote where are the remaining 376 reps ?

[gcq]

Who would be that 2 republican nay votes ? 1 - Steve King for sure.

[longgcque]

Yea - 134
Nay - 5
remaining - 295

[chagas]

Humnnn.... still 150 votes needed with 2 minutes remaining !

[redsox2009]

Bill passed............Yayyyyyyyyyy

[jackbrown_890]

it has passed,,we have enough votes
CELEBRATION

[scion78]

290 / 8 I feel like i am watching a cricket match :-D

[kiran_july_2004]

4 minutes into the bill

Yes - 30
No - 2

@6:51 ET...

Yes = 318
No = 11

[vizcard]

Next stop Senate

[jackbrown_890]

I am opening a bottle of TAQUILA and everyone here is welcome to join the celebration of our long awaited first victory