Originally this was the idea from an Indian professor from Harvard. Forgot the name.
This particular bill may get passed but will hardly help EB2IC because the price range starts at half million dollars and secondly - hold your breath - it must be in CASH!!!
For most EB2ICs that are backlogged - both conditions - especially the second one- make this bill difficult to feel good about.
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No inside info. Haven't heard anything other than this will definitely get back on the mark up queue, probably for next week, and that the phone calls need to be sustained. I haven't made them in the last couple of days but i'm going to make another round today.
NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|
They can clear the EB-3 India china backlogs by making the dates at least as good as EB-2 IC date at present that is Dec 2007. Result: Housing will improve, auto sales will improve, this will help economy, then they do not require any out of mind bills like this. all politics and politricks. Again regarding the H.R. 3012...is it not a Carrot and later changed into a Stick!
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It has been added to the calendar for 10/27. It is again the last bill so am not sure if they will get to it.
Really wish that this bill will pass both Congress and Senate and becomes law... by whatever way and doing whatever is in our control!
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/mark_10252011.html
It is on the markup calendar for Oct. 25th and 27th.
Keep calling and keep pushing!
From ** Forum:
We need one simple action item from you for Thursday and Friday this week -- make calls the offices listed below and say one simple thing :
"My name is _______. I would like Congressman/Congresswoman ______ to support H.R. 3012 that removes the per-country quota from employment based immigration. Thank you".
Below are the phone numbers and names of Congressman and Congresswomen in House Judiciary Committee that really matter this week and next week for this bill. Spare 15 minutes of time to do this and just do it if you have not already. If you called earlier this week, call again. Numbers matter. Call volume matters. Democracy works only for those who show up. It's time to do your part.
Rep.Lamar Smith [TX, 21st District] - 202-225-4236
Rep.Jason Chaffetz [UT, 3rd District] - 202-225-7751
Rep.Bob Goodlatte [VA, 6th District] - 202-225-5431
Rep.Zoe Lofgren [CA, 16th District] - 202-225-3072
Rep.Pedro Pierluisi [Puerto Rico] - 202-225-2615
Rep.John Conyers [MI, 14th District] - 202-225-5126
Rep.Howard Berman [CA, 28th District] - 202-225-4695
Rep. Elton Gallegly [CA – 24th District] - 202-225-5811
Rep.Steve Chabot [OH, 1st District]- 202-225-2216
Rep.Darrell Issa [CA, 49th District] - 202-225-3906
Rep.James Sensenbrenner [WI, 5th District] - 202-225-5101
Rep. Howard Coble [NC, 6th District] - 202-225-3065
Rep.Daniel Lungren [CA, 3rd District] - 202-225-5716
Rep.Mike Pence [IN, 6th District] - 202-225-3021
Rep.Randy Forbes [VA, 4th District]- 202-225-6365
Rep.Trent Franks [AZ-2nd District] - 202-225-4576
Rep.Louie Gohmert [TX, 1st District] - 202-225-3035
Rep.Jim Jordan [OH, 4th District] - 202-225-2676
Rep.Ted Poe [TX, 2nd District] - 202-225-6565
Rep.Tim Griffin [AR, 2nd District] - 202-225-2506
Rep.Tom Marino [PA, 10th District] - 202-225-3731
Rep.Trey Gowdy [SC, 4th District] - 202-225-6030
Rep.Dennis Ross [FL, 12th District] - 202-225-1252
Rep.Sandy Adams [FL, 24th District] - 202-225-2706
Rep.Ben Quayle [AZ, 3rd District] - 202-225-3361
Rep. Mark Amodei [NV, 2nd District] - 202-225-6155
Rep.Jerold Nadler [NY, 8th District] - 202-225-5635
Rep.Robert Scott [VA, 3rd District] - 202-225-8351
Rep.Mel Watt [NC, 12th District] - 202-225-1510
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee [TX, 18th District] - 202-225-3816
Rep.Maxine Waters [CA, 25th District] - 202-225-2201
Rep.Steve Cohen [TN, 9th District] - 202-225-3265
Rep.Henry Johnson [GA, 4th District] - 202-225-1605
Rep.Mike Quigley [IL, 5th District] - 202-225-4061
Rep. Judy Chu [CA, 32nd District] - 202-225-5464
Rep.Ted Deutch [FL, 19th District] - 202-225-3001
Rep.Linda Sanchez [CA, 39th District] - 202-225-6676
Finally, something official out of Sheila Murthy's office on HR3012. I'd emailed their offices a few times to get them to put something official on their legislative page, but they've done one better.
http://www.murthy.com/bulletin.html
This bulletin will get 1000s of eyeballs. I just hope all the folks that read it realize that these calls have to be made immediately. I've posted on their forum but i'm not sure if it'll be approved.
NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|
This is awesome!!
This is great, more people will be aware, and I personally like the following from Murthy site.
Without our input, senators and representatives will act in the way they personally think best. Due to the high volume of issues, they may not know much about a particular issue unless we have taken the time to inform them. By participating in the democratic process and sharing our views on the issues, we are ensuring that our elected officials are making informed decisions. Otherwise, senators and representatives may base their positions
http://www.murthy.com/ccongres.html
NO MORE CALLS NEEDED. PLEASE **DO NOT** call anymore. This is an action item from **.
Yes, I'm meeting with one staffer here in TX this week. We need to keep the momentum going even after is passes the committee.
Dude - the award for "patience of the millenium" goes to you!!
As per post 2012 - as long as the economy is like this, things will move 25-30K per year. An improving economy is going to hurt EB2IC. 25-30K is just about right annual rate for EB2IC. So we are talking a 1 Yr movement per year. Please understand this is very rough estimate.
I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.
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smuggymba is referring to H.R.3012
I accept the award with humility.
I was referring to HR 3012...how would the predictions change..maybe this has been discussed - just point me to the right thread. Thanks.
Totally my bad! Sorry smugymba!
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I think Spec or some other Guru did post a summary of how dates will move if HR3012 is passed and implemented in its current form. IIRC - both EB2I and EB3I benefit greatly with wait times down to almost current for EB2 and just a few months for EB3. Although, I don't have much confidence that the bill will become law anything soon.
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I haven't read 3012 in detail. Analyis below is based on my understanding that 3012 is basically 1) removal of country cap from EB 2) increase ofcountry cap to 15% in FB.
If my understanding above is correct - here is what will happen to EB category post 3012 is passed.
1) USCIS will no longer publish dates by country. The dates will be strictly for an entire category.
2) EB1 5 4 will stay current
3) EB2 will jump by 1.5 years (from where EB2IC are. of course this means retrogression for EB2ROW)
4) EB3 will jump by 1.5-2 years (from where EB3IC are. of course this would mean dates going back for EB3ROW)
5) EB2ROW will not see a single approval for 2-3 years (take it with grain ofsalt in case there are EB2ROW cases from 2007-8-9 etc)
6) EB3 ROW's wait time will jump.
7) EB category will continue to be backlogged since overall EB demand is more than 140K when looked over past 7-8 years. Although in near future 3012 will result in signficant backlog reduction.
8) Most importantly 3012 will result in extremely well run DOS and USCIS since the schackles of per country are removed and tehy are only left to deal with categories. So 3012 will pave way for next round of reform where the overall cap needs to be increased sufficiently.
Last edited by qesehmk; 10-25-2011 at 09:48 AM.
I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.
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There is a provision on 15-10-10 till 2014 for 'transition' ..so EB2-ROW who are currently in the system will have better chance.
This post falls squarely in the "Predictions" category as opposed to "Calculations
the odds of HR3012 getting passed before the Presidential elections at the end of 2012 are slim to none (and slim is losing!)
dude I noticed that bulletin, this is awesome. Let's hope somehow ppl slip this one up through. I have seen the judiciary hearings of other bills last time I was waiting for this one to come up but it got postponed, and man people do attack ideas with ferocity. I sincerely hope the politicians support this and understand our plea. If the House wants they can make some changes some cuts but still do something.
I firmly always believe in life that a chance is a chance, slim or fat, even a 0.01 probability is worth fighting for than just sitting. This is democracy and opportunity provided to us.
Well said.
I sincerely think the Murthy bulletin had a direct role in causing the Congressmen offices call lines to get jammed. It came out on Thursday so Friday must have seen unprecedented call volumes, hence the plea to stop calling. If this gets out of the committee, the next set of calls will be to the whole congress (less important i think since the GOP Reps vote in unison, but important nevertheless), and then the important step of calls to the senate.
Tomorrow and Thursday are the first steps. I'm on the road, so I won't be able to access the live recording like i did the last time. Keep giving the rest of us hourly updates, nishant2200 and others.
NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|
Just noticed manubhai's disappearance from this thread......
Kyon yaar, baaki sab ko bhadkake patli gali?
NSC (originally TSC, transferred to NSC on 02/13/13) |-| PD - 04/25/08 |-| MD - 01/19/12 |-| RD - 01/27/12 |-| ND - 01/31/12 |-| Check Encashed - 02/02/12 |-| NRD - 02/04/12 |-| FPND - 02/09/12 |-| FPNRD - 02/17/12 |-| FP Early Walk-In - 02/24/12 |-| EAD/AP Approval & card production notice - 03/07/12 |-| EAD/AP RD - 03/12/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal RD - 12/11/12 |-| EAD/AP renewal approval - 01/22/13 |-| 485 Approval notice - 09/04/13 |-| GC RD - 09/11/13|
Pedro bhai... missing me?? I've been busy implanting clones of those committee members. Tomorrow and day after, they will behave exactly as programmed. Godspeed!
All I can tell you is that this explanation come’s from horse's mouth.
Calendar quarter or fiscal quarter both means 3 months with difference being one relies on calendar year which starts in January and other is fiscal/financial year which for US government starts in October. Conundrum to the statement in the law is that it never stated "fiscal quarter" explicitly but rather "calendar quarter". Since for visa allocation in current system, fiscal year precedes eligible calendar year, DOS need to wait upto second fiscal quarter or first calendar quarter to start thinking about spillover.
The law is stated so vaguely that HR 3012 calls for removing quarterly spillover altogether. Although removing it does not affect FA in FIFO model but will affect FD on quarterly basis.
That is an interesting point that you noted there about "during remainder of quarter". To use this efficiently onus is on USCIS to provide correct load or demand on monthly basis for a quarter, which I doubt is done efficiently for categories that are current (mostly done on quarterly basis). Based on information that I received, my take is still that in any case quarterly spillover cannot be used until March-April realistically. Anomaly to this is yet to be seen.
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