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Thread: Discussion of Bills that remove the Per Country Limits - H.R.3012, H,R. 213

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    Interesting article

    Hopefully Honest but Hopelessly wrong! might be one of the reason for treating Legal immigration as political football to play as they wish.

    http://www.theleafchronicle.com/arti...TS25/302210030

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    Quote Originally Posted by immitime View Post
    Interesting article

    Hopefully Honest but Hopelessly wrong! might be one of the reason for treating Legal immigration as political football to play as they wish.

    http://www.theleafchronicle.com/arti...TS25/302210030
    An article that dares to tell the uncomfortable truth. Any surprise that an Irish E-3 could get a support of 50+ senators in no time whereas a minor tweak to high skilled immigrant bill is still struggling to clear senate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcq View Post
    An article that dares to tell the uncomfortable truth. Any surprise that an Irish E-3 could get a support of 50+ senators in no time whereas a minor tweak to high skilled immigrant bill is still struggling to clear senate ?
    Exactly, and the leader of this mental cancer is grassuncle!

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    An update to the ongoing saga

    http://irishecho.com/?p=69944

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    Immigration chief Mr.Mayorkas seeks to reassure Silicon Valley


    http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ion/53211162/1

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    At any rate, this entire discussion may be moot. Politico reports that Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) is opposing Brown’s pet bill out of concern that it could “hurt high-skilled American jobs.” And this is an election year. No one will seriously attempt, much less pass, anything before November.
    http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-fre...n-communities/

    Intersting to read, according to this and the Irish agenda is really big threat for H R 3012 and It may not pass before November election
    Hmmm..

  7. #1332
    I think it will die slowly .. no news from any source these days

    Quote Originally Posted by vickywac View Post
    http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-fre...n-communities/

    Intersting to read, according to this and the Irish agenda is really big threat for H R 3012 and It may not pass before November election
    Hmmm..
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    To Lalaji and Immitime
    Thanks for keeping an eagle eye on the news and bringing us updates. Irish Central is very positive always about the chances of this Bill but does not clearly say if it is mentioning the IRE Bill of Sen Brown or S.1983 of Sen Schumer. If the aim is unanimous consent then hopefully no damaging amendments are introduced to achieve this.

    BTW, we tend to overlook the family-based component of this Bill.I saw this news item on my news alert

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-fi...etitions-peril

    As usual-we have to wait and see.As they say there is always next week!

  10. #1335
    As per Oh law firm Irish E3 may be added to Israeli E2 by house as an amendment..?

    02/26/2012: Irish Community Takes Next Week as Key Week to Pass H.R. 3012 + Irish E-3 Visa Legislation in Unainimous Consent

    As this reporter predicted earlier, the forthcoming important Irish St. Patrick's Day celebration in this country can give a momentum for these legislative bills. The Irish media agrees with this reporter's assessment by reporting today that this week (02/27/2012-03/02/2012) will be a key week for the fate of these bills. They hope that they see a break through in negotiation with Sen. Grassley or obtain at least 60 Senators to pass the bills swiftly within this week. From such hope, apparently Irish community is pumping up lobby activities to get support from the members of the House such that when the bill(as) as amended goes back to the House, the bills are not seriously challenged because of the Irish E-3 amendment. They also recognize, just as this reporter predicted, that the bills as amended may face a different floor in the House, different for the floor where the stand-alone H.R. 3012 was swiftly passed with 365 absolute majority with only 15 nays. In this regard, the passage of these bills, as amended, in the Senate will be considered a success but not a complete success. Supporters of these bills may have to go through another cycle of painful struggle, this time in the House. What happens if Israeli E-2 bill (investment nonimmigrant visa) which is pending in the House attempts to be attached to this bill in the form of amendment? Who knows!

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    Seems senate is trying to tackle the small business growth related bill(s) next. I'd think this helps H.R.3012 indirectly.

    http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/02/...ess-jobs-bill/

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    Why has this site gone dead.... has everyone given up?

  14. #1339
    Quote Originally Posted by mniwas View Post
    Why has this site gone dead.... has everyone given up?
    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/21...s-constructive

    This is the way HR3012 is going to get to Senate floor. We have to be patient till the more important things are finished up in Senate.

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    Hope I am not missing anything...

    HR 3012 has already passed the house and it is waiting for the senate.

    Quote Originally Posted by vickywac View Post
    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...sage-next-week

    FYI..HR 3012 is not in the House Jobs Bill...

  17. #1342
    Quote Originally Posted by vickywac View Post
    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...sage-next-week

    FYI..HR 3012 is not in the House Jobs Bill...
    http://www.speaker.gov/blog/
    Follow the link "Plan for America’s Job Creators". You will see HR3012. I agree that Eric Cantor's initial version of Jobs bill released today has only 6 instead of the 27 bills. I think it is political move to front only 6 important bills as it may invite severe scrutiny from Democrats. Let's hope that other bills like HR3012 also get added in the amendment process.

  18. #1343
    Quote Originally Posted by idiotic View Post
    http://www.speaker.gov/blog/
    Follow the link "Plan for America’s Job Creators". You will see HR3012. I agree that Eric Cantor's initial version of Jobs bill released today has only 6 instead of the 27 bills. I think it is political move to front only 6 important bills as it may invite severe scrutiny from Democrats. Let's hope that other bills like HR3012 also get added in the amendment process.
    Are the Democrats against the bill?. Whe would these bills come to vote?. Just speculating, Do the Bill come to vote before election?. Guru's What is your take?

  19. #1344
    Quote Originally Posted by vickywac View Post
    Are the Democrats against the bill?. Whe would these bills come to vote?. Just speculating, Do the Bill come to vote before election?. Guru's What is your take?
    We don't know whether republicans and democrats are serious about this bill. If they are, they would definitely bring it before the elections. If it is a political game, they will use it to blame the other side.

    As jobs are big determining factor for the upcoming elections, they will probably take it up in one form or another.
    Let us hope for the best !

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcq View Post
    We don't know whether republicans and democrats are serious about this bill. If they are, they would definitely bring it before the elections. If it is a political game, they will use it to blame the other side.
    As jobs are big determining factor for the upcoming elections, they will probably take it up in one form or another.
    Let us hope for the best !
    Gcq,
    Thank you!. No news about the Irish bill as the Irish media predicted as last week was the key!. Looks like it's tough sell for E3.

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    Source: http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/03/...-march-5-2012/
    The Senate will convene at 2:00pm on Monday, March 5. Following any Leader remarks, the Senate will proceed to a period of morning business with senators permitted to speak therein for up to 10 minutes each. There will be no roll call votes on Monday, March 5.
    On Friday, Senator Reid filed cloture on the Reid amendment #1761 and S.1813, Surface Transportation bill. At 12:00 noon on Tuesday, March 6, the Senate will proceed to vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the Reid amendment #1761.

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    what is promising here ? I dont see any reference to 3012.. am i missing some thing

    Quote Originally Posted by mniwas View Post
    Source: http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/03/...-march-5-2012/
    The Senate will convene at 2:00pm on Monday, March 5. Following any Leader remarks, the Senate will proceed to a period of morning business with senators permitted to speak therein for up to 10 minutes each. There will be no roll call votes on Monday, March 5.
    On Friday, Senator Reid filed cloture on the Reid amendment #1761 and S.1813, Surface Transportation bill. At 12:00 noon on Tuesday, March 6, the Senate will proceed to vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the Reid amendment #1761.
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  23. #1348
    Quote Originally Posted by longgcque View Post
    what is promising here ? I dont see any reference to 3012.. am i missing some thing
    mniwas frequently posts Senate schedule of the day. No you are not missing anything. HR 3012 is not going to show up magically one day in the Senate Schedule. Some people believe otherwise.

  24. #1349
    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    mniwas frequently posts Senate schedule of the day. No you are not missing anything. HR 3012 is not going to show up magically one day in the Senate Schedule. Some people believe otherwise.
    Speculation cannot reach anywhere, Senate have its own procedures to voting and there are lot of political manouvering. There are lot of families waiting for this bill. you cannot just say some statments without any link or proof. Please do not discourage people who are contacting their senators on daily basis. If you want to say something which is going to happen, Please provide authentic link.

  25. #1350
    Quote Originally Posted by immitime View Post
    Speculation cannot reach anywhere, Senate have its own procedures to voting and there are lot of political manouvering. There are lot of families waiting for this bill. you cannot just say some statments without any link or proof. Please do not discourage people who are contacting their senators on daily basis. If you want to say something which is going to happen, Please provide authentic link.
    I am not saying it is not going to pass. If an agreement is reached it will be known everywhere before the vote is scheduled. I have never discouraged anyone from doing anything. Everybody should do what they can to pass it.

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