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Thread: Discussion of Bills that remove the Per Country Limits - H.R.3012, H,R. 213

  1. #1201
    H.R. 3012 looks like becoming a prospect better than a week back (news about its amalgamation with Irish E-3). Given this chance, and the fact that USCIS has been slower than required for comfort to CO, does a highly aggressive movement of dates for EB2 become a possiblity for March visa bulletin?

    Gurus can advise if the dates might already be signed, stamped and sealed.
    Last edited by kkruna; 02-02-2012 at 09:57 AM.

  2. #1202
    Quote Originally Posted by kkruna View Post
    H.R. 3012 looks like becoming a prospect better than a week back (news about its amalgamation with Irish E-3). Given this chance, and the fact that USCIS has been slower than required for comfort to CO, does a highly aggressive movement of dates for EB2 become a possiblity for March visa bulletin?

    Gurus can advise if the dates might already be signed, stamped and sealed.
    I am not sure about aggressive EB2 movement but regarding the prospects of HR 3012, Senator Grassley has again put a hold on the new Irish bill for E-3 visa with added HR 3012 text which was moved by Senator Schumer today. This hold is in addition to the his existing hold on the original HR 3012 in Senate. What a Grasshole?

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/GOP...138556224.html

  3. #1203
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonty Rhodes View Post
    I am not sure about aggressive EB2 movement but regarding the prospects of HR 3012, Senator Grassley has again put a hold on the new Irish bill for E-3 visa with added HR 3012 text which was moved by Senator Schumer today. This hold is in addition to the his existing hold on the original HR 3012 in Senate. What a Grasshole?

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/GOP...138556224.html
    When his intentions are true, his execution is pathetic....

  4. #1204
    GhasUncle puts hold on E3 bill too!

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/GOP...#ixzz1lElk1Z2f

    Interesting stuff is below


    It is believed up to eight Republicans will sign on led by Senator Scott Brown of Massachusetts, which would give the bill a filibuster-proof majority in the senate. Senator Susan Collins of Maine signaled her support on Wednesday

    The Grassley hold was not unexpected, as he had made his intentions clear when the bill was first moved to the senate after easily passing the house, though the Irish visa proposal was not part of the original House bill



    Read more: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/GOP...#ixzz1lEqxpzzx

  5. #1205
    Quote Originally Posted by lalaji View Post
    I don't know if there is any new hold on any bill or atleast i can't find any official news on E3,,,,IrishCentral is probably talking about Hold on 3012 and Grassley's hold on that bill and Schumer wanting add E3 to 3012 and bring it up for vote. the good news is if it is true, Collins has publicly supported the bill..(was expected at some point, she would do dat)
    And if Irish Central is correct and they have 8 republican votes, we shall definitely see activity on this bill in Senate soon..

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    If the amended bill DOES go through the Senate, it has to go back to the House. So I wouldn't get hopes too high just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizcard View Post
    If the amended bill DOES go through the Senate, it has to go back to the House. So I wouldn't get hopes too high just yet.
    Irish Central website wants to equate H.R.3012= E3 bill. that may not be possible at all. No official statments of amendments or Bill taking to the Senate floor yet, eventhough 3012 is in the top 10 priorities. We need to wait and see what happens. Irish Central is like OH law firm,
    Last edited by immitime; 02-02-2012 at 02:12 PM.

  8. #1208
    I would like to urge everybody to please continue to talk about HR 3012 to your friends and associates. Please do not assume that they know about it. Please keep reaching out to Senators, asking for their support.

    Try to connect dots and reach various community organizations and make them aware of HR 3012, ex: various ethnic associations for various regions in India, various associations for professionals of Indian-origin (ex. Association of American Physicians of Indian-origin, etc), cricket leagues, sports leagues, festivals, temples, music concerts etc.

    Just a little initiative on your part to speak up will go a long distance.

    Thanks!

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    Senate live updates

    For me it's new, so posting for others who might not be aware of. The below website is updated instantly with floor proceedings.

    http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/xx/xx/

    For feb 2 - http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/02/02/

    Right now S.2038 bill is sucking up entire senate's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TorreyPines View Post
    For me it's new, so posting for others who might not be aware of. The below website is updated instantly with floor proceedings.

    http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/xx/xx/

    For feb 2 - http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/02/02/

    Right now S.2038 bill is sucking up entire senate's time.
    Nothing about about our bill on Monday's schedule either, this sucks-

    http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/02/...bruary-6-2012/

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    And most likely not on Tuesday either.The senate leaders would have filed for cloture today to allow for the intervening Legislative day on Monday for amendments to be filed.
    We will have to wait and see

  12. #1212
    Please let us all be patient. A few pages back I expressed my opinion that it will be a while before we see substantial and public progress on the bill. We all knew about the house vote six days before the actual event. And likely, that will be the case here too.

  13. #1213
    Quote Originally Posted by girish989 View Post
    Nothing about about our bill on Monday's schedule either, this sucks-

    http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/02/...bruary-6-2012/

    Please be patient. There are lot of negotiations and backdoor work needs to go on to get the required support before floor time is taken to bring up this bill or variant of this. Payroll tax cut extension needs to be passed before Feb end also. That is a good example for backdoor negotiations on a bill before it comes up on the floor.

  14. #1214
    Quote Originally Posted by idiotic View Post
    Please be patient. There are lot of negotiations and backdoor work needs to go on to get the required support before floor time is taken to bring up this bill or variant of this. Payroll tax cut extension needs to be passed before Feb end also. That is a good example for backdoor negotiations on a bill before it comes up on the floor.
    Just my opinion: At some point, HR 3012 and Irish E3 contradict each other and shouldn't be in the same bill. I am okay if the bill takes one or two more months but get rid of the Irish baggage. Asking for fairness and being okay with 10k visas to a particular country is plain weird.

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    Question to everyone reading this forum: Have you made a call to your Senator's office in 2012? Have you written a letter (not email) to your Senators in 2012? If you have not - then please fulfill your responsibility and do so. Writing a letter takes 10 mins and one first class postage stamp - there is no excuse for you to not do it. This one action will help HR-3012's chances more than anything else you can do.
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    Shusterman.com is also saying the same thing as the OH law firm.... with Irish provision added HR3012 is likely to pass senate...
    Shusterman has provided this link to Irish website... http://www.irishcentral.com/news/New...138470709.html

    A note of caution is that: I have been following Shusterman newsletters for a very long time... he is always very optimistic... very often I have seen that his predictions/hopes don't come true... Hopefully this time he will be right.

    Somewhere else I read that in 1990s congress acted when the backlog 3.5 yrs.... in 2000 they acted when the backlog was about 6 years long... this time it is already about 10 years long for the EB3 folks and this is with no relief in sight.... I don't understand how... but some people are predicting that EB3 people who are applying in 2012 have a 70 year wait if the congress does not do anything.

  17. #1217
    Irish E3 added to HR 3012 means it will have to go back to house for a vote again. HR 3012 + E3 may not survive a house vote. Adding E3 to HR 3012 is like killing HR 3012. HR 3012 has to pass by itself.

    BTW none of these lawyers have any clue as to HR 3012's status. They are speculating.

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    I have not read anywhere that Irish E3 is getting added to HR 3012. I have been reading that Irish E3 will be added to the 'Fairness to high skilled...' which is the description for HR 3012. However they never reference HR 3012.

    I think the bill S1983 (HR 3012 + Irish E3) will go for a vote in Senate and NOT HR 3012. HR 3012 will just sit there in Senate with a hold by Senator Grassley waiting on the fate of S1983 in Senate and House. If S1983 passes both, then HR 3012 can be trashed. If it does not pass both, then HR 3012 can be pursued further.

    Above is just my hunch.. i have no clue how things work in Washington DC.

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    Here is the latest news
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/GOP...138769794.html

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    Thanks gs1968
    It is interesting Irish Lobbyists have been good at providing updates and keeping everyone in d loop...i wish other 3012 lobbyist would update people on what s going on...
    Lets see how things go this week in d senate.

  21. #1221
    My sources in the know tell me, the bill limbo may be resolved one way or the other in next couple of weeks. NO indication if positively or negatively, w/ or w/o the E-3 amendment or some other compromise. Keep your fingers crossed.

    Please, please, please, call, email, contact your Senators now and ask them to support HR 3012!!!!
    Last edited by kd2008; 02-06-2012 at 11:01 AM.

  22. #1222
    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    Read all Irish central news with "lot" of salt. If they knew how lobbying works in DC and if they had enough clout, they wouldn't have waited for HR 3012 to pass in house to bring up E3. Their need for a bill like HR 3012 to push their E3 tells a lot about their clout.

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    Senator's List

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hejN6b1E#gid=0

    Please, please, contact your Senators now!!!

    PS: Only Senators from your state of residence!

  24. #1224
    Thanks for posting this KD. I would urge everybody to hand write a letter and send to the office address of your Senators. This has more impact than anything else. Senator's office will usually send you a hard copy reply too. You can write one letter every month.
    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    Senator's List

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hejN6b1E#gid=0

    Please, please, contact your Senators now!!!

    PS: Only Senators from your state of residence!
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    No sign of movement yet on any of the Bills.Tomorrow the Senate hopes to start consideration of the surface transportation Bill but nothing decided yet.We have to wait and see.

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