IMO Irish group is the most naive among immigrant advocacy groups. When one bill got some traction ( HR 3012), they think it is easy to push any bill through including E3. They are not aware of the hard work that has gone into bringing up HR 3012. Getting a bill introduced in the house/senate vs seeing it to the president's desk are two different things.
S.1983 has to go through Senate Judiciary committee in which 'G' uncle ( grandpa) is the ranking member already holding our 3012 .
Just a reminder:
If you are interested in being on the conference call which is part of the response to the petition concerning "Foreign graduates with Advanced US Degrees"... please check the following thread and RSVP.
The call is tomorrow, February 1, at 1:30 PM EST.
Link to thread: http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...degree-holders
Disclaimer: Not sure WHAT you/we will gain by spending time on this call. Hopefully, it will be more than some usual political BS.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ive_agenda.pdf
It is great that the President has come out in the open with the support.· Eliminate Country-Specific Caps: The President is calling for a balanced approach to eliminate country-specific caps for certain immigrant visa categories to attract more high skilled foreign workers, including entrepreneurs.
Interesting Release from WhiteHouse today:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...obama-sends-st
I hope this will help move 3012 in d senate a little:
Relieving the backlog of immigrant visas: As put forward in his Blueprint for Building a 21st Century Immigration System, the President is proposing to:
o Eliminate Country-Specific Caps: The President is calling for a balanced approach to eliminate country-specific caps for certain immigrant visa categories to attract more high skilled foreign workers, including entrepreneurs.
In response to the President’s call for action on these issues last September, there has been growing bipartisan support for components of the President’s agenda, and the Administration looks forward to working with Congress to pass legislation without delay.
This is all because of election year! the same could have done as administrative fix (just an executive order will do this without a bill and this stuff is non-controversial too) on second year of his tenure. Again Hoping for the best. I see the politics behind it. a Reublican bill basically having overwhelming support. so now some credit needed to WH because Elections are round the corner.Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
let anyone take the credit....for us waiting for GC....what ever way it is ....if this bill passes, it is a great relief
This is all because of election year! the same could have done as administrative fix (just an executive order will do this without a bill and this stuff is non-controversial too) on second year of his tenure. Again Hoping for the best. I see the politics behind it. a Reublican bill basically having overwhelming support. so now some credit needed to WH because Elections are round the corner.
I think all is set and secure to pass HR 3012 in a week or two. Mr. President and democrats want to take credit of passing bipartisan bill. Anyway, as they play politics our stakes are very high. Just support who vote yes to the bill or work against who vote no.
I would rather say, This bill will pass, and it is going to be a great relief for lot of families who are EB immigrants
This is a VERY VERY POSITIVE development. This essentially means that Democrats are willing to push this forward. We are heading towards a cloture motion unless GhasUncle removes his hold before that. Just for reference, Jason Chaffez has become pretty big in Republican Party now - I saw several news items about him being active in the Florida primary.
I believe Republicans will force GhasUncle to remove his hold. President is going to run on a do-nothing-congress theme and republican obstruction to a republican bill that has over 95% support in the House as well as President's support is going to look really bad. Next couple weeks will make everything clear.
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watch out for AGREE act S.1866
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ive_agenda.pdf
Update from OH Law Firm:
01/31/2012: Sponsors of AGREE Act, S. 1866, Hails President's START UP American Legislative Agenda
On November 15, 2011, this bi-partisan bill was introduced in the Senate. The Title III of this bill proposed the text of the House bill, H.R. 3012. After the H.R. 3012 was introduced in the House and in progress, Senator Mike Lee of Utah who was one of the 11 co-sponsors of the S. 1866 bill introduced a separate bill in the Senate as a companion bill of H.R. 3012. Guess what. Another two co-sponsors of the S. 1866 bill introduced separate bills in the Senate. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York introduced S. 1983 combining the text of H.R. 3012 and Irish E-3 visa, while Senator Scott Brown of Massachusetts introduced the Irish E-3 visa bill as a separate stand-alone legislative bill. Accordingly, these three Senators have more or less long history of supporting H.R. 3012 bill texts.
Now, Senator from Delaware, Christopher Coons, who was a sponsor of S. 1866, comes forward and releases a news on January 31, 2012 hailing Obama initiatives including the Senator's initial proposal in S. 1866, AGREE Act. The co-sponsors of the AGREE Act were as follows:
Sen Rubio, Marco [FL]
Sen Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [NY]
Sen Blunt, Roy [MO]
Sen Casey, Robert P., Jr. [PA]
Sen Begich, Mark [AK]
Sen Wicker, Roger F. [MS]
Sen Lee, Mike [UT]
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY]
Sen Risch, James E. [ID]
Sen Brown, Scott P. [MA]
Sen Boozman, John [AR]
Please note in the co-sponsors list that Hispanic caucus rising star Tea-Party Senator Marco Rubio even supported the bill!
There have been 2 additional co-sponsors for Sen.Schumer's Bill S.1983 added yesterday.These are democratic senators Coons and Harkin. However no republican cosponsors yet for this Bill.I just found this interesting as Sen.Harkin's fellow Senator from IA has placed the hold on HR 3012.
Attonery Ron's take on immgration bills...how these parties are actings...
While we can always hope for members of Congress to see reason, the reality is that they (and the President) are pursuing their own political agendas. I think that the President wants to raise immigration issues at ever opportunity because he knows that the Republican response will always be "no." Things may change a bit in the months ahead as primary election season winds down.
Up until now, it has been possible for an extreme right wing candidate to get into a primary and challenge a solidly conservative Republican over an issue like a vote for an immigration provision. Recall that two years ago, Senator Bennett of Utah, one of the most conservative members of the Senate, was defeated in a primary because he wasn't conservative enough. Sen. Bennett had taken some common sense positions on immigration and those votes went a long way toward defeating him in the primary (Republican voter only, in his case) election. That lesson was not lost on other Republican incumbents.
In the 2010 election, about one-third of the Tea Party endorsed candidates won election to Congress. They have had a major impact on the legislative agenda, particular with respect to immigration. They have also made some colossal political blunders along the way and their influence has slipped considerably. I don't think that they are viewed as the threat that they once were. After all, if they had serious clout within the Republican party, would Romney be the front runner for the nomination?
With this in mind, we may see more moderate minded Republican members of Congress willing to vote their conscience on immigration issues. This does not mean that they are suddenly going to embrace an amnesty bill, but I think that there is a good chance that they might be willing to consider sensible legal immigration reform.
The Republican presidential contest has pushed the image of that party far to the right. Romney is the only candidate without solid conservative credentials and he is doing everything possible to paint himself as a conservative - at least until he gets the nomination. We are already hearing from Republican strategists that the party has to take a more moderate tone on immigration or risk a debacle in November.
Much has been written about the Latino vote and its growing influence in American politics. Personally, most Latinos that I know are social conservatives. At the same time, they genuinely resent being demonized as a group by nutjobs on the right. This is one of the things that scares the hell out of Republican strategists. Something that is overlooked, however, is the growing group of naturalized citizens and their U.S. born children. The anti-immigration xenophobes have done an excellent job of alienating them as well. These folks, for the most part, are highly motivated to not just vote, but also contribute to campaigns. Again, for the most part, recent immigrants tend to be social conservatives. With their extreme rhetoric, however, Republicans have driven them into the arms of their opposition, at least for now. After all, who wants to vote for someone who makes a living calling you a parasite?
For all of these reasons, I think that the Republicans are going to have to undertake a serious effort to make peace with Latinos specifically, and all immigrants generally. If they don't, they will cease to be a viable political party in ten years. The lesson of the FDR coalition, built in the 1930s, has not been lost on Republicans. Once you let a group bond with the other party, you have pretty much lost them for two or three generations. Republicans are at that crossroads right now. Unless they do something soon, they are going to lose key voting blocks for a long time.
With this in mind, I think that we will see Congressional Republicans make an effort to find legal immigration reform legislation that they can support and get it passed before the November election. At that point, the question becomes will the Democrats let them? I'm sure the Democrats will do everything in their power to prevent the Republicans from trying to heal this breach.
In the end, no one is a good guy here. It all comes down to naked political advantage.
How President Obama Can Erase Immigrant Visa Backlogs
The only valid test of leadership is the ability to lead, and lead vigorously.”[1]
As part of his emerging re-election strategy, President Obama has issued a series of executive orders designed to take action on serious national problems without support from the Congress.[2] In each case, the President has justified his actions with the rallying cry of “We Can’t Wait!” The press has taken note of this renewed executive vigor and the President’s poll numbers have begun to rise a bit as Americans are reminded once again of how powerful a bully pulpit the Presidency can be when its resources are fully engaged. One wonders if the same initiative could not produce equally dramatic results in the immigration arena. What if, for example, the President issued an executive decree that henceforth derivative family members would no longer be counted against the immigrant visa quotas, both family and employment-based? That single stroke of the pen would revolutionize United States immigration policy and, at long last, restore equilibrium to our imbalanced immigration system.
Read Further.
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2012,0201-endelman.shtm
Out of an abundance of caution, and to allow full opportunity for legislative consideration, the President should defer any executive action until Congress has had an opportunity to amend the bill in this fashion. But patience, while a virtue, is not without limit. Should the Congress not act, the need for the President to step forward remains. You are perfectly correct Mr. President- we cannot wait. As the Great Rabbi Hillel asked:” If not now, when?”
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Schumer on E3 TODAY:
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/New...138470709.html
As per Irish central based on above link key poits are
1. Undocumented removed
2. Support 53 democrats+8 Rep already in line to break the filibuster.
3. Will go to House for approval and will get passed
In some ways I am disappointed that HR 3012's purity and sincerity will be lost if this bill passes and in other ways I am glad that HR 3012 lives on through this bill
Hi,
In case the bill passes and signed by the President with an effective date of April 1, 2012, what will be the combined PD for EB2 in April visa bulletin?
Hold your horses! While all of us are impatient and want to know what will happen, nobody knows. Rest assured, it will impact positively if it passes.
Sept 1, 2007
if the bill passes, For EB2 it will be sept 1 2007, i dont think so....how did you come up with that date....can you please explain vizcard( i am not being sarcastic....but was not undersanding why you choose sept 1 2007)
theres no way to tell where things will land ... the bill hasnt even passed. so forget about calculations.
SCHUMER BILL ON HOLD:
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/GOP...138556224.html
This has been mentioned at the Oh law firm's site(http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html) too :
02/02/2012: Unanimous Consent Sought for H.R. 3012 in the Senate
Report indicates that the chance for passage of H.R. 3012 in the Senate has turned more promising by attaching Irish E-3 visa provision to the pending H.R. 3012 which is likely to come on the floor in the near future. Apparently, Senator Chuck Schumer is pushing for passage of H.R. 3012, as amended, attaching E-3 visa provision to the bill and pass the bill on the Senate floor in the form of 'unanimous' consent. This is a new development and the supporters of H.R. 3012 and Irish community are hopeful for the passage of the bill soon. The unanswered question is which Irish bill will be attached as amendment. If it is Schumer's initial proposal which includes undocumented Irish relief provision, H.R. 3012, as amended, is likely to face some challenges in the House, when the bill is returned to the House. If the amendment is Sen. Scott Brown bill that does not include undocumented Irish relief provision, the future for H.R. 3012 will be indeed promising even in the House.
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