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    First block of 11 amendments passed by #SJC. All were pre-agreed to.The amendments are Cornyn6; Feinstein6,7,8, Flake1,2; Hirono24; Leahy1; Sessions36; Grassley2,5 to S.744 - all adopted by voice vote

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    First test of Go8 unity passes
    Grassley amendment to delay the RPI status till Congress certifies border is secure was defeated 12-6

    http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legi...AS13439%29.pdf

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    how many amendments have been discussed? I would think including the block probably about 15 - 20

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    Lee amendment 4 to give power to congress for "the last say"of DHS border security plan fails 6-12
    Grassley 1 which expands border resources in all sectors rather than "high-risk" passes by voice vote
    Grassley 24 Amendment to S.744 was adopted by voice vote by the Senate Judiciary Committee.This amendment would more closely track grant money that's in the bill

    With 17 amendments considered so far, Senate Judiciary Committee recesses till 130PM

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    At this rate it'll probably take atleast 8-10 days to get through these. I doubt there will be any more block amendments. So it should reach the floor by mid-June latest and get voted on by before the July 4th holiday. Cant ask for anything more I guess.

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    For those who want to see the list of which amendments have been adopted and which were voted against with detailed information of each amendment :

    http://www.judiciary.senate.gov

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    Quote Originally Posted by CleanSock View Post
    For those who want to see the list of which amendments have been adopted and which were voted against with detailed information of each amendment :

    http://www.judiciary.senate.gov
    Thanks for the link. On an average Senators have filed anywhere between 6-24 amendments. "Sessions" has filed 49 amendments. Mr. Grassley has filed no less than 77 amendments!!!

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    Had to share this tweet!

    Dear,@GOP, when it comes to #immigration, if you Cruz, you lose.

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    Feinstein 9 gives fed $ to states, tribal, local govs to criminally prosecute. Just Passed on voice vote.
    Sessions' Amendment 37 (to strike bill requiring DHS policies regarding use of force) fails 11-7.

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    Good first day. All amendments to Title 1 have been discussed and closed. Next comes Title 2 - Immigrant Visas - a topic thats close to the hearts for most of us.

    Correction - next will be Title 4 - non- immigrant visas on 5/14
    Last edited by vizcard; 05-11-2013 at 07:35 AM.

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    http://davidleopold.net/2013/05/14/s...744-cirmarkup/

    Summary of amendments by Title/ topic and current status.

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    Amendment passed (17-1) that would set up a toll free number and webpage at DOL for people to report that they have been displaced by a foreign worker. A report on usage will be made to Congress after 1 year.
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    Grassley asking very pointed Qs about pet provisions about Irish and cruise ships!

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    Grassley 58 amendment requiring job title and location of job to be part of the posting on the DOL website was passed by voice vote (appeared unanimous).

    Hatch 9 amendment to increase LC fee from $500 to $1,000 and use the funds to support STEM Education was amended (clarified) by another amendment (Coons etc) was passed unanimously by voice vote (from I-squared Bill).

    Grassley amendment to instigate 1% audit of companies started but they have now recessed until 2.45PM.
    Last edited by Spectator; 05-14-2013 at 11:26 AM.
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    Grassley's passive aggressive style is hilarious.

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    Real time update on twitter with hash tag #cirmarkup

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    To vizcard
    I tried following that hash tag but it is too cluttered with too many re-tweets and very little substance.It also lacks balance
    It is easier to pick one of the regular updaters and follow them.Try Matt House or Elise Foley

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    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    To vizcard
    I tried following that hash tag but it is too cluttered with too many re-tweets and very little substance.It also lacks balance
    It is easier to pick one of the regular updaters and follow them.Try Matt House or Elise Foley
    I agree. Ive been following Jessica Meyers and David Leopold
    Last edited by vizcard; 05-14-2013 at 09:33 PM.

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    29 more done. 4 more to go in Title 4, then on to Title 3 - EVerify & Interior Enforcement on Thurs and Friday.

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    This appears to be the amended version of the Bill (it was created yesterday).

    The new version appears to start on page 845 but I haven't read any of it to check.
    Last edited by Spectator; 05-29-2013 at 02:12 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    This appears to be the amended version of the Bill (it was created yesterday).

    The new version appears to start on page 845 but I haven't read any of it to check.
    I'm so disappointed to see that the v-visa section of the bill was negatively affected by the amendments. in the old bill in said that v-visas along with work permits will be given to the unmarried sons and daughters of U.S citizens and permanent residents. the amended bill says only certain sons and daughters will be granted work permits. everyone else just a 60-day visit to the U.S. do you have any idea what certain sons and daughters mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keep on_trying View Post
    I'm so disappointed to see that the v-visa section of the bill was negatively affected by the amendments. in the old bill in said that v-visas along with work permits will be given to the unmarried sons and daughters of U.S citizens and permanent residents. the amended bill says only certain sons and daughters will be granted work permits. everyone else just a 60-day visit to the U.S. do you have any idea what certain sons and daughters mean?
    keep on_trying,

    The language in the original Bill and the Amended Bill appears to be unaltered as far a V Visas is concerned.

    V Visas are applicable to 2 different classes of applicant. Each class has different benefits.

    The first class is referred to as CERTAIN SONS AND DAUGHTERS. These people have a route to immigration under CIR and therefore have enhanced benefits. Below are the people who fall under the first class and the benefit they would receive.

    (I) the unmarried son or unmarried daughter of a citizen of the United States;

    (II) the unmarried son or unmarried daughter of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence;

    (III) the married son or married daughter of a citizen of the United States and who is 31 years of age or younger;

    (1) CERTAIN SONS AND DAUGHTERS.—

    (A) EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION.—The Secretary shall—

    (i) authorize a nonimmigrant admitted pursuant to section 101(a)(15)(V)(i) to engage in employment in the United States during the period of such nonimmigrant’s authorized admission; and

    (ii) provide such a non-immigrant with an ‘employment authorized’ endorsement or other appropriate document signifying authorization of employment.

    (B) TERMINATION OF ADMISSION.—The period of authorized admission for such a non
    immigrant shall terminate 30 days after the date on which—

    (i) such nonimmigrant’s application for an immigrant visa pursuant to the approval of a petition under subsection (a) or (c) of section 203 is denied; or

    (ii) such nonimmigrant’s application for adjustment of status under section 245 pursuant to the approval of such a petition is denied.



    The second class is referred to as SIBLINGS AND SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF CITIZENS. These people have no direct route to immigration under CIR since FB immigration for Married Sons and Daughters over 31 and Siblings are eliminated under CIR. These people have reduced benefits. Below are the people who fall under the second class and the benefit they would receive.

    (I) the sibling of a citizen of the United States;

    (II) the married son or married daughter of a citizen of the United States and who is older than 31 years of age;

    (2) SIBLINGS AND SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF CITIZENS.—

    (A) EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION.—The Secretary may not authorize a nonimmigrant admitted pursuant to section 101(a)(15)(V)(ii) to engage in employment in the United States.

    (B) PERIOD OF ADMISSION.—The period of authorized admission as such a non-immigrant may not exceed 60 days per fiscal year.

    (C) TREATMENT OF PERIOD OF ADMISSION.—An alien admitted under section 101(a)(15)(V) may not receive an allocation of points pursuant to section 203(c) for residence in the United States while admitted as such a non immigrant.


    Neither class are eligible for Public Benefits.

    I hope that explains who is eligible for a V Visa and those groups that have limited privileges.
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    thank you very much spectator, you are an awesome person. i guess the reason i was confused is because the amended bill does not specify the categories in detail like the original bill.

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    Amendments to S. 744: Link



    There are 131 amendments proposed so far. Who know how many will be taken up. July 4 recess will come and go but this bill may not be voted on any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    Amendments to S. 744: Link



    There are 131 amendments proposed so far. Who know how many will be taken up. July 4 recess will come and go but this bill may not be voted on any time soon.
    I think, they are probably working/ making deals on some of the amendments behind closed doors. So many of them/non controversial will pass with unanimous consent, the controversial ones are the ones taking time,,don't know how many of them are controversial. we will find out in next few days as both parties will require some to meet 60 votes threshold and some will be passed at the end of the day for next few days,,

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