Discussion On The Politics of Immigration Reform (Comprehensive Or Otherwise)

[Jagan01]

Kanmani,

I had downloaded the I-485 form and it did not ask for any employment history. Hence I needed to confirm if there is any other form that goes along.

[Kanmani]

Jagan, It is Form G-325 A calls for Biographic information including employment history. http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/f...orm/g-325a.pdf

List of attachments are noted here http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/f...i-485instr.pdf

[Jonty Rhodes]

The chances of Immigration Reform passing this year is probably zero to very weak. On top of that, President Obama and his administration are not helping it.

Look at this.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/05/ob...rists-into-us/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...es-for-terror/

The rules were published in the Federal Register on Wednesday.

https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...ationality-act

While it is understandable that individual situations do need to be taken in to account before approving a refugee or asylum status (e.g., an Iranian man who distributed pamphlets for Khomeini regime when he was a teenager now seeking asylum status which was considered a terrorist organization by US at that time), I still can't understand the pressing need to make these kind of controversial changes unilaterally without Congress approval at this crucial time when Immigration Reform is facing an extremely tough and uncertain future.

I think it will create even more distrust with this administration when they are already being alleged of not following the laws. How is this going to help the Immigration Reform in a positive way? On one side, we constantly hear that President does not want to act alone on Immigration and on the other side, we are seeing these kind of controversial decisions being taken unilaterally.

I don't have any hopes from Republicans but this administration is not helping the Immigration Reform either by taking these kind of steps.

[idiotic]

A few days back Schumer met with Ted Gowdy(Immigration chair) and Paul Ryan(Conference Lead on this issue).
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...an-103057.html

Boehner then does a stunt with vague comments tying Obama administration and CIR..
http://www.speaker.gov/video/speaker...gration-reform

Schumer says do CIR now and have the law come into effect in 2017.. I think DHS also time to prepare for the law.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...on-immigration

Just wonder if these are orchestrated drama.. As always optimistic

[qesehmk]

Schumer says do CIR now and have the law come into effect in 2017.. I think DHS also time to prepare for the law.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...on-immigration

Unfortunately GOP will not accept this either for the simple reason that regardless of timeline Dems will get entire credit.

[idiotic]

Another slap to Tea Party groups..

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...-to-clean-bill

Leaving the press conference, a rueful Boehner softly crooned “Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah,” the Disney song with the lyrics “My oh my, what a wonderful day!”

[kkruna]

The scenario emerging now with good possibility is that the Repubs, forced by their vocal section, would not be able to do anything till next presidential elections. The Dems would then force Obama to use his "pen" for some polarization before the elections.

All maneuvers will be for the undocumented. I wonder if anything will be done for the legal immigration which is held hostage. Repubs may likely visit it sometime during next 2 years to show themselves amenable to reasonable reform but Dems are not likely to go with it. Dems are not likely to take any initiative for legislative reform on legal immigration alone.

Let's hope Boehner becomes adventurous right after coming primaries for 2014 elections. Or that Obama touches the subject with his pen - which is mighty enough to cause demand data morph beyond recognition!

[idiotic]

The scenario emerging now with good possibility is that the Repubs, forced by their vocal section, would not be able to do anything till next presidential elections.

Vocal section is increasingly getting snubbed by the leadership backed by business groups..

All maneuvers will be for the undocumented.

Agreed.

I wonder if anything will be done for the legal immigration which is held hostage.

Dates can be made current to let people in line file 485 atleast.. Atleast same thing happened in July 2007 after a CIR failure..

Hope for the best.. plan for the worst..

[gcq]

http://news.yahoo.com/house-dems-try...125725350.html

[qesehmk]

gcq - that's brilliant. A discharge petition only on immigration would've been very difficult. But a discharge petition on min wage bill would be a good way out for CIR.

http://news.yahoo.com/house-dems-try...125725350.html

[idiotic]

http://news.yahoo.com/house-dems-try...125725350.html

HR15 -- Nancy Pelosi's version of S.744 (after stripping out the last minute amendment in senate and substituting with bipartisan house border security bill) did not anywhere close to 217 required even after months of launching.. This should be the reality..

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-.../15/cosponsors

[Ramsen]

gcq - that's brilliant. A discharge petition only on immigration would've been very difficult. But a discharge petition on min wage bill would be a good way out for CIR.

on the other side if minimum wage bill fails then they will not bring immigration bill. So not easy way out and also these things will increase the distance already bitterly split congress. I think all of these are just PR stunt to get more votes not aimed at passing the bill. If democrats wants to pass any bill they need to do lot of concession from their side which they are not willing. It took years to pass farm bill and lot of compromise needed.

[kkruna]

They will not get 2 dozen Republicans to "revolt".

Can they agree on clearing the deck by easing on legal immigration now so that they are ready when they deal with avalanche of applications from the "undocumented"? Doesn't look like this either.

We might be trying to impute direction to Brownian motion...

In the end (political) survival will win. And Republicans are not there yet.

[geterdone]

http://www.ibtimes.com/republican-ou...maries-1556446

"Speaking as part of an immigration panel at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois said the House could put out a border security bill followed by legislation on visas for high-skilled workers."


hope it is not just increase in h-1b.....hope they do something on GC

[idiotic]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...e-legal-status

Issa's Alien Accountability act (House Amnesty bill)
http://susanpaitwitter.files.wordpre...4/02/aaa-5.pdf

[axecapone]

Here's what concerns me about mid term elections: GOP may hold both the house and the Senate.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...te_121640.html

Historically, the Presidents party always loses seats in mid-term elections. Multiple articles and simulations are pointing towards the same direction (though some might argue that its expected because simulations are based of historical data and Obama's approval rating). If GOP comes to the Senate, its game over. I don't think they will pass any bill on immigration until 2016.

So I think its either before mid term elections or not anytime in the near future.

[idiotic]

http://judiciary.house.gov/index.cfm...4-C1C718AD5550

Good to see immigration markups again.. minor bills to cut executive branch power..

[gten20]

An article talking about high skilled immigration
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101460837

[GCSeekerIndia]

Is Dems playing a shrewd game here? Sensing GOP might take both Senate and House after the mid term elections and hence no CIR after that... Or is it just posturing????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...p_ref=politics

[gcq]

Is Dems playing a shrewd game here? Sensing GOP might take both Senate and House after the mid term elections and hence no CIR after that... Or is it just posturing????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...p_ref=politics

I would say posturing for election. They want to put republicans in cross hairs as far as latino community is concerned. Result, CIR may pass due to the pressure OR democrats may benefit from the election.

[gten20]

A positive sign? John Boehner mocks his colleagues. Anyway.. its funny. I think he is trying his best and running out of ideas.. Saam Daam Dand Bhed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-boe...ration-reform/

[qesehmk]

A positive sign? John Boehner mocks his colleagues. Anyway.. its funny. I think he is trying his best and running out of ideas.. Saam Daam Dand Bhed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-boe...ration-reform/

Can't believe this gten. A sign that Boehner is not getting reelected. So the least he can do is be on the right side of history! Perhaps saying so is unkind to him. But kudos to him for taking a stand on this.

[gten20]

I have read some news articles which suggest something could happen in June/July.. either through congress or by some executive action from Obama. Maybe Boehner is warming up his conservative group. I hope congress and Obama find some middle ground and pass some law which will help legal immigrants too.. right now the whole immigration reform talks focus on illegal/undocumented immigrants. I sometimes fear legal immigrants will not get any relief. All we (actually corporations) might get is unlimited H1B's.

[YTeleven]

Interesting...
http://www.lexisnexis.com/legalnewsr...is-summer.aspx

[idiotic]

Tea party hell bent on keeping the current immigration system and milking the illegals..

http://thehill.com/homenews/205013-r...on-immigration