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Thread: Discussion On The Politics of Immigration Reform (Comprehensive Or Otherwise)

  1. #1326
    Quote Originally Posted by coolvibe View Post
    Guru's,

    Can you clarify on my question. Everywhere in news I see CIR for illegal immigrants. At this stage is there any room that benefits legal immigrants who are waiting in queue with EB2 and EB3? Can you please clarify how the CIR stands as of now for legal immigrants. Sorry if this is a repeat question in the forum.
    Yes ofcourse. I am sure almost all of them posting on this thread are very much concerned about the legal part in the CIR. To summarize, if the bill becomes a law AS IS, EB2 will become current almost instantaneously! EB3 will move at a ridiculously fast pace. Basically, if the bill becomes a law, just step outside and you will see a lot of smiling and happy faces on the streets. I am sure I wont stop smiling till I have a jaw pain.

  2. #1327
    Final vote is anytime now.. please call your senators through this link.. less than 2 minutes..

    http://www.fwd.us/landing_doa_live?splash=1

  3. #1328
    Final Voting is going on, I can hear more Yay's. Hope it will pass in house too in near future.

  4. #1329
    McConnell voted -ve.

    CIR has passed senate by 68-32.
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  5. #1330
    As everyone expected, Senate Immigration reform bill was passed by 68-32. The real battle starts now. I really hope we will see some light at the end of this year.

    THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
    Last edited by SaibabaAug2010; 06-28-2013 at 12:37 AM.

  6. #1331
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    McConnell voted -ve.

    CIR has passed senate by 68-32.
    Final vote: 68-32

  7. #1332
    Quote Originally Posted by axecapone View Post
    Final vote: 68-32
    Everybody, please call your house rep and start bothering them till they submit. If your house rep supports this bill, then go after those that are not in your state neighboring state etc.

  8. #1333
    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    Everybody, please call your house rep and start bothering them till they submit. If your house rep supports this bill, then go after those that are not in your state neighboring state etc.
    I agree nothing wrong in trying. I am going to do it myself. I am just hoping some cooler heads prevail and house is able to pass this. 68-32 is blow in my opinion.

  9. #1334
    It might be worthwhile if someone creates a thread with a list that clearly identifies position of each congressman as Yes No and Undermined. And then as days go by the original author or the moderators can update the header with any changes in position.

    Is there somebody who already has such a list handy? Or at least a list of all congressman. Please create a thread with such list and then lets start noting down their positions.
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  10. #1335
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It might be worthwhile if someone creates a thread with a list that clearly identifies position of each congressman as Yes No and Undermined. And then as days go by the original author or the moderators can update the header with any changes in position.

    Is there somebody who already has such a list handy? Or at least a list of all congressman. Please create a thread with such list and then lets start noting down their positions.
    Brilliant idea!! I will do my best and start calling congressmen as well.

  11. #1336
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It might be worthwhile if someone creates a thread with a list that clearly identifies position of each congressman as Yes No and Undermined. And then as days go by the original author or the moderators can update the header with any changes in position.

    Is there somebody who already has such a list handy? Or at least a list of all congressman. Please create a thread with such list and then lets start noting down their positions.
    The list of senators who voted is here: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/...html?hpt=hp_t1
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  13. #1338
    Let's talk about house members and their inclination toward vote.......Senate is history now...

  14. #1339
    Senate vote is passe now. We need to work on the congressmen in the house and identify their individual positions on the bill.

    And then work only on those who are undetermined. That is the most effective way of pushing this through house.
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  15. #1340
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    It might be worthwhile if someone creates a thread with a list that clearly identifies position of each congressman as Yes No and Undermined. And then as days go by the original author or the moderators can update the header with any changes in position.

    Is there somebody who already has such a list handy? Or at least a list of all congressman. Please create a thread with such list and then lets start noting down their positions.
    Posting the position of a congressman will act against our interests. When anti-immigrant groups come to know about a congressman's position, they will focus on that congressman to change his view. All the advocacy should be done in the background and official positions should not be revealed. This is a lesson learned by ** in their earlier days. During one of the earlier campaigns, people and ** leaders used to post the stand of a lawmaker. Anti-immigrant groups would focus selectively on congressmen who support our cause and flood their offices with calls. Let us not repeat that mistake.

  16. #1341
    GCQ - I disagree respectfully. The positions of congressmen are already public. Making it further public to this group which is vehemently pro-immigration would only help.

    Not publishing to this group and harnessing people's energy is a losing strategy.
    Quote Originally Posted by gcq View Post
    Posting the position of a congressman will act against our interests. When anti-immigrant groups come to know about a congressman's position, they will focus on that congressman to change his view. All the advocacy should be done in the background and official positions should not be revealed. This is a lesson learned by ** in their earlier days. During one of the earlier campaigns, people and ** leaders used to post the stand of a lawmaker. Anti-immigrant groups would focus selectively on congressmen who support our cause and flood their offices with calls. Let us not repeat that mistake.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
    I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
    Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.

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  17. #1342
    Guru's,
    What is the probability of passing CIR in House? What are the other roadblocks?

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    House Judiciary Committee passed the SKILLS Act today (20-14). There were some technical corrections made but no significant change to underlying structure of Bill. Unfortunately Rep.Lofgren never proposed any significant EB legislation and specifically no alteration to spousal exemption or visa recapture

    There is always talk of bipartisan approach in the House but a look at the final clerk record makes it hard to believe it can ever happen in the House

    http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/...e%20HR2131.pdf

    As I mentioned a few pages ago that in the middle of all the talk about illegal immigration,we should always keep in mind how far apart the 2 chambers are regarding legal immigration also

  19. #1344
    Quote Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
    House Judiciary Committee passed the SKILLS Act today (20-14). There were some technical corrections made but no significant change to underlying structure of Bill. Unfortunately Rep.Lofgren never proposed any significant EB legislation and specifically no alteration to spousal exemption or visa recapture

    There is always talk of bipartisan approach in the House but a look at the final clerk record makes it hard to believe it can ever happen in the House

    http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/...e%20HR2131.pdf

    As I mentioned a few pages ago that in the middle of all the talk about illegal immigration,we should always keep in mind how far apart the 2 chambers are regarding legal immigration also
    If people are planning to call house members, they should be clear in what they are supporting and opposing. Senate bill was worthy of supporting but this bill is not. It is tripling the number of H1bs without any significant increase in EB green cards. It has per country elimination but that will only help to some extent. Overall, this bill is going to increase the backlog rather than reducing. We should oppose this bill and talk about the provisions that are there in the senate but missing here.

  20. #1345
    I think house democrats can use option three as listed here in Washington post. This option give democrats power to get the bill to floor by passing committees and
    house floor leader, but it might become ugly fight.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ses-the-house/

  21. #1346
    hope CIR will not be a KLPD in the house..

  22. #1347
    Quite an interesting read from huffington post. If McConnell is already explaining and trying to distance from his former aides/colleagues who are today supporting CIR; nothing could be a better sign for the future of this bill in House than that.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3496219.html

    p.s. - Same with John Boehner. Somebody yesterday posted tweets from him saying he said in a "closed door" meeting that he won't let it come to the floor. That a perfect SYA tactic when a politician knows he couldn't stop something from taking place.
    I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
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  23. #1348
    We also need to remember what happened in 1986. Senate has passed the immigration reform bill in Sep 1985 but House took one year and passed it on Oct 1986.

  24. #1349
    am energized for the weekend after reading this

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/us...pagewanted=all

  25. #1350
    How can u be energized when the senate bill is not going to be taken up in the house and
    we are starting from scratch in the house and god knows when?

    Quote Originally Posted by kuku82 View Post
    am energized for the weekend after reading this

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/us...pagewanted=all

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