Seems important article. I did not understand some things. It says Dreamers and farm workers would get expedited road to legal status. I do not know how they would define farm workers. Would that need some years of experience working as farm worker? Illegal farm worker would get expedited status than legal farm worker? Then it says next group of people would be able to apply through legal or family preferences. If they eliminate some family preferences then those avenues will be gone. Supposing low skill workers can apply on their own for the green card, these people can apply that way but it also says they will have to go back to their home country. It also needs to finalize on border security and most likely won't include government benefits which senate had voted down recently.Guest worker program is also not finalized. May be they will pick up that from senate but article says they remain skeptical of senate efforts and doubt that senate would be able to release the bill next week. I do not know if there is something common about that suspicion and Rubio's. Overall, this leaves more questions than answers.Originally Posted by abcx13
I guess all will be clear the next week when hopefully both bills are out.
My feeling is that most illegals will be happy with a GC or even the provisional legal status and won't bother jumping through the hoops to become citizens. If their kids are already citizens, it doesn't matter in terms of access to education.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ney-89563.html
So there may be less of an immigration deal in existence than current headlines would have us believe. Not only are Republicans still thrashing out the issue, but a source told me that Democrats in the Senate are far from having the 60 votes necessary for a filibuster-proof bill. And nobody knows what the even more chaotic House will come up with.
I am not sure what to believe anymore!
The article has less content and more assumptions. It discusses about republican party problems which they have identified. Some in the party might believe that immigration is not a problem but rank and file republicans believe that and they are embracing that. It talks about wait period, but even Obama came up with 8+5 year period. So, 10+3 does not look very different. I do not think this gag would have done everything in secrecy without keeping whitehouse in loop. Even before bill has come up, I do not know how so called source can tell that there may not be 60 votes.
I know you are trying to be positive but Roger Simon is a respected journalist from Chicago with usually good insider information. Also there is a difference in my opinion between the House and senate Bills although as abcx13 mentioned we should wait to see the Bills first. The House Bill after the wait would require obtaining Green Card through regular channels with all the numerical/country-cap limitations while my understanding of the Senate Bill is that there is no such requirement except the time lapse of 10 years for a GC
Hopefully they will introduce the legislation and sort out the differences later
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...607_Page2.html
Construction industry is left out of the deal so obviously they will not support it. I do not know if their support is required to pass the bill.
From Oh Law firm,
http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Political...tion-Agreement
From the above link, it is clear that those workers can self petition for their green cards. I am assuming that they will be petitioning under EB category which means more backlog ahead unless sufficient number of green cards are added to EB.
Last edited by gs1968; 04-05-2013 at 05:17 AM.
The first link provides very important and latest update. It seems positive update.
If indeed W-Visa with self petition get implemented
The present EB backlog would have to cleared and apply only for future consular applicants.
All locals staying more than 1 years would have to be greened automatically or another queue may start this time may be based on skills categories.
We have to wait and see if any number limits will be proposed
But I like the concept of W-Visa with self petition of more than 1 year and against a specific skill lacking category
One other issue that keeps coming up often which has not been raised extensively yet is the problem of agricultural workers.
After the initial amnesty in 1986 a lot of undocumented aliens who became legal moved on to better jobs and the agricultural worker pool dried up. According to some of the links I provide below there is a separate group of Senators working on this issue to add to the CIR Bill
http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci...mmigration-law
http://westernfarmpress.com/governme...rm-gains-steam
http://www.thepacker.com/fruit-veget...201476281.html
http://www.agri-pulse.com/Congress-f...s-03282013.asp
I felt I needed to add this article
http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2013/0...eet-literally/
Last edited by gs1968; 04-05-2013 at 12:49 PM.
I do not know without the farm deal why Schumer and other gang of 8 senators excluding Rubio were optimistic.
Ca someone explain why we have a Senate and a House bill? Why not just work off one bill, make amendments, etc rather go thru the whole process twice. I suppose theoretically it gives CIR 2 chances to pass but realistically that's not the case.
In one of the earlier articles, one of the house members from gang of 8 was quoted as saying that he would be very surprised if the senate bill is released next week. This seems to confirm that.
One bill would be good. But politics is not about good or bad. It is about scoring political points.
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