Kind of discouraging but let's see what happens. This article is from last week.Originally Posted by psychedelicNerd
If we only get work visas for H4s, that would be super lame and just make the queues longer.
Kind of discouraging but let's see what happens. This article is from last week.
If we only get work visas for H4s, that would be super lame and just make the queues longer.
Many people here mentioned that it would be lame if we do not get this/that.
My opinion, Its been such a long wait and so many disappointments over the last few years, I will take anything they do for Legals. Even if we get the H4 EAD, that itself would be a great relief.
Anything more than H4 EAD is bonus.
Can we have hope something will be done to Legals as well or is it toomuch to Hope
Q or Spec or Gurus what do you guys think?
Last edited by mesan123; 11-19-2014 at 05:26 PM.
We all have waited too long. So lets wait a few more hours and see what happens. Speculation and over-reading will only lead to disappointment or over-expectation. Don't get me wrong, but after all these years of waiting and debacles like HR3012 have mellowed me a little.
Wish I could pop a sleeping pill and go to sleep until thursday evening
Have guys not learned a thing from past debacles? It is foolish have this optimism or hope! This executive action's target is undocumented. Not legal or documented folks like us! We may get a few crumbs. But we are not the courted audience so to speak. So stop asking what will happen ? What can we expect?
Expect nothing!
I am very confident ( nay certain) that if there is action for undocumented ones then there will be some actions for documented one. No doubt about that.Can we have hope something will be done to Legals as well or is it toomuch to Hope
Q or Spec or Gurus what do you guys think?
But whether the action will include visa recapture - I do not know.
I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.
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Thank you for the response Q....If there is an action what can we expect ??? I understand it wont Visa recapture.....
Just trying to understand here......Me not loosing sleep over it.....But knowing what to expect from gurus .....as most of the times your and Spec's and nishanth's guess was right....
If I were to guess, these look likely:
1. H4 EAD
2. Increased period for OPT
3. Changes to filing procedures - probably those with approved I-140 can file I-485 and get EAD as they wait in queue.
Well Spec in all likelihood is working with Obama's advisors ... oink oink!! So you are stuck with me! Nishanth has become a big boss now so I don't think he finds much time to visit the forum - other than the fact his daughter makes him dance him on one finger.
Anyway -- so I believe the biggest favor he can do is allow people to file 485 without dates being current. I think that will happen with 60% chance.
Visa recapture will happen with 40% chance.
H4 EAD should happen with 80% chance.
Increasing length of OPT - probably won't happen.
Please understand these are wild guesses. So don't hang onto any of them.
I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.
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Thank you again for response Q...... I was not catching up often in the forum from last one year......as was blessed with another Little boy yearly this year....so I can understand Nishanth's struggle
So I will make sure I will not disturb Spec for next couple of days
anyway nice catching up with you after long
How about AOS applicants in limbo (EB I-485 pending) for over 3 years (just to use a number)? If their applications are pre-adjudicated and they have been with the GC sponsor all through that time, can they be given relief to change jobs with more flexibility? Perhaps dropping or loosening the "same or similar" job requirement? I am sure this will only involve changes to DHS internal policy.
http://m.wsj.com/articles/obama-to-a...10043?mobile=y
This article specifically states no visa recapture! Wasn't this the easiest one to do on the list? Are we set up for a big disappointment tomorrow? My worst fears seem to be coming true..
Yay! Looks like legals get screwed again. The only thing for legals seems to be OPT extension which only clogs up the system more. Hurray, Obama!
Can somebody copy paste part of the article that talks about legal immigration for those who don't have subscription to WSJ?
Thanks
One provision sought by businesses, particularly high-tech companies, isn’t in Mr. Obama’s package, this person said. It would have made available employment visas that were unused in previous years.
Here is the part that talks about recapture.
One provision sought by businesses, particularly high-tech companies, isn’t in Mr. Obama’s package, this person said. It would have made available employment visas that were unused in previous years.
Thanks devi_pd. It is very disappointing.
If Obama is only hell bent on raining down the OPTs, I don't know what to call it. I don't have an adjective. It proves that Obama is squarely in the pockets of the corporations and the only change he got in DC is the same old thing on steroids.
OPT/F1 is one of the most abused visas today. And it is not the student's fault either. Most of these students are from middle class backgrounds and they make an investment in the US. To their chagrin, they realize that the time and money they spent in the US is a waste because getting a sponsorship is next to impossible these days. Then, they have to do the most dastardly acts to survive. Working on gas stations, in restaurants, in liquor shops becomes common. The sponsorship never comes along. Plenty of them then become illegals, and I suppose they could be taken care of only if they produce anchor babies in the US. If you think about it, your head will start spinning.
So Obama wants more of this now. How do you make it easy for the students Mr. BO when all of the H1Bs are taken in a blanket fashion by the so called "MNC consultancies"?
By taking this ill advised and rash action, Obama is destroying any opportunity for a bipartisan Congress approved sensible solution to the existing backlog of legal immigrants. I am afraid that there is tremendous anger among the people over amnesty to "illegals" (sorry, I don't want to use euphemisms here). People mostly understand they were fooled once (1986), promised the borders would be closed which did not happen and in 30 years, it multiplied the problem 4-fold. They say "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me". Whatever EO Obama has in mind, it will bring about some kind of permanent tipping point. I cannot anticipate how it will shape the future politics. Whatever it is, it is bye bye legal immigration reform.
Obama is our modern day Emperor Nero. All hail the Caesar..
From ** site:
We would be very happy, rather astounded if the President decides to do recapture and/or dependents exemption. This is one of those things where we would welcome to be wrong in our assessment. We have also separately asked and advocated for recapture and dependents exemptions but the truth is that the chances are very less for recapture and/or dependents recapture, and we are only helping you manage your expectations ahead of the announcement.
Now that is out of the way, let me mention this. It is because of immature folks who cannot have a civil discussion that it is difficult to share what we know. As soon as we share something real, there is always one to those idiot hiding somewhere who immediately pop-up its head just because he doesn't like the message. And then this group of mostly handful of immature folks start with attacking the messenger as if immediately the other person is the mortal enemy. Grow up please.
reserve your judgement till evening sports!
I no longer provide calculations/predictions ever since whereismyGC.com was created.
I do run this site only as an administrator. Our goal is to improve clarity of GC process to help people plan their lives better.
Use the info at your risk. None of this is legal advice.
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This is what i heard on the radio this morning
1)Visa Capture - not happening
2) increase in H1B quota for people with US Masters degree in STEM field
Nothing about H4 EAD or Increase in OPT length..May be they highlighted the big 2 takeaways alone. We will know at 8 tonight!!!!!
Visa recapture was one of the hardest thing to do if have read Spec's musing on this.
Why would there be any disappointment? I have no expectations. Anything we get is better than status quo.
my bad sorry for being ignorant. one last hope is EAD while filing I-140 and easy rules for changing jobs / filing PERMS when waiting for visa #s. Hope that isn't too much to ask from the POTUS
Q,
I'm with you on this, hence my lack of comments on the subject.
I will reiterate something I said at the very beginning when the prospect of EO was first raised.
It is significantly harder to help, via EO, those already in the legal immigration system precisely because they are in legal status. That is very well covered by the INA and allows less discretion. My understanding is that EO can neither create new law, nor ignore/break current law. That must be done via Congress in the form of a Bill.
On the other hand, action for those not in legal status, is in the form of prosecutorial discretion within the current law. That is significantly easier for EO to accomplish.
Whatever happens, my biggest gripe with the approach remains that significant portions of the legal community do not have access to benefits such as EAD. It seems grossly unfair to accord that privilege to a group that do not have legal status while denying it to people that have maintained legal status.
Last edited by Spectator; 11-20-2014 at 10:12 AM.
Without an irritant, there can be no pearl.
Rightly said Spec...last statement is right.....Atleast EAD would give biggest relief to many of us waiting for almost a decade here ......I know it can happen or not.....but just hope that he gives it for everyone
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