Friends,
I have moved most of the posts related to leaked memo to a new thread "Immigration Politics".
If we focus on politics of immigration then it dumbs down the debate because that debate is speculative and most of the times non-value-add. It is better to focus on data and policy as opposed to politics.
So everybody (abcx in particular) any critique of politicians should be redirected to that thread and NOT HERE please. Critique the policy on its merits and demerits. Not the politicians.
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Will guest worker program kill immigration ? It was missing from white house draft and that is something republicans want.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/19/opinio...orm/index.html
some damage control.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ht-republicans
good thoughts on ongoing immigration effort.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Rep...2/19/id/491063
Not sure if this is good news.. IMO its just news.Originally Posted by rupen86
CIR will be on the back burner for the next 2-3 weeks while they talk about the sequester atleast as part of mainstream press.
House has another hearing on immigration.. This time H2A..
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/..._02262013.html
I believe it is good analysis.
Obama's legacy on immigration tied to Rubio.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/thene...enemy-20130220
A couple of news items-one positive and the other not so positive
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2734016.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2734024.html
This seems to be 2 big stories. Guest worker program which was important to be part of the immigration reform, it is good that progress has been made there. On the house side, I do not know if Boehner would allow senate bill to be put up for the vote. If he does allow that, it could pass even though majority of republicans oppose that. But reverse argument can also apply that house bill which does not include path to citizenship can pass house with most of the republicans supporting it and then in senate with most republicans supporting it.
Interesting deal with AFL-CIO and COC. Republicans praised it but as expected, "The chamber’s primary goal has never been to establish a lawful immigration system and secure our borders, but to get as much cheap labor as possible, regardless of how it impacts American workers, legal immigrants and taxpayers in general,” said Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Alabama), a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee."
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,6788177.story
Jeff Sessions is the NumbersUSA guy..
www.numbersusa.com
Both are anti-immigrants.
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It will allow some guest worker programs to apply for green card which means more backlog unless green card numbers are increased.
Opposing view.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...632998490.html
Last edited by rupen86; 02-21-2013 at 10:59 PM.
It seems that it is not just the Indians from India that the Senator is against!!
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...ans/?mobile=nc
It is precisely for this reason that we should temper our optimism for 3012 type Bills to get through the Senate. It will take a few generations for this country to be truly progressive and race-blind
Umm, this is the same reason that all white juries don't try black people anymore. So in principle, he is right.
I got confused. Is not he talking about Native Americans referred as Indians ?
Yes. That's why GS said he is "not just against Indians from India" (... but other people as well). To complete that thought - there are quite a few people who think that immigration will take away their culture and way of life. Consider this Hispanics are white people yet their culture is not accepted quite well among significant sections. Asians (indians or chinese) is quite remote to these people.
However - I still think that fundamentally US is pro-immigrant. What we see with Indians and Asians and Hispanics today .... believe it or not was true about Irish just 5 decades back. Irish were never accepted well and never given good jobs in the society and ended up taking low level jobs until 60s. And then came JFK and it changed.
If we see things in larger perspective - it is easy to understand accept and work towards making things happen in a positive manner.
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Keep an eye on this Super PAC..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republi...gration_Reform
For the first time, Obama is going to take part in senate negotiation process. This can be both good or bad news. It could be good news that they may be finalizing the details and it could be bad news that they might have hit the road block.
From Oh Law firm,
02/23/2013: President Reportedly Scheduled to Meet with Senators at White House Next Tuesday, 02/26/2013, for Comprehensive Immigration Reform Legislation
Report indicates that the President has invited some Senators to the White House who have been involved in immigration reform negotiations within the Senate, assumedly to discuss their differences and to coordinate the process. This is the first step for such coordination efforts since the Senate started working on the CIR bill. This meeting can be crucial to learn how fast this legislation will be introduced and how quickly it will be passed in the Senate. Lately, there have been some positive developments in favor of the ongoing CIR move, including reported agreement between hightech industry and labor to work within the ongoing CIR efforts and another agreement between the labor and low skilled foreign worker employers to work with the guest work component of the CIR legislation. These developments obviously help to smooth out the negotiation process among the CIR players in the Senate and the White House. The House has yet to settle with their hardline position on border security and immigration enforcement focused agenda, but the Senate action is considered an important step to activate and stimulate negotiation for differences in the Congress with inputs from the public and constituents. After all, they are all politicians and they go by and play within the political game considering political landscape at a given time and to negotiate and compromise towards the goal of each party gaining a maximum power and laying out of a ground work for future national elections ahead "within a tolerable limit" but "realistic solution." It is a time to move ahead. This is a good news to keep CIR alive during the rest of February when the Congress will be obsessed with the sequester legislation.
This is his true color. He doesn't care about americans or america, he cares about something else.
new sources of support for immigration reform
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...on-reform.html
Some positive news although the debate appears to be only in summer
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91P16N20130226
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2768821.html
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