Discussion On The Politics of Immigration Reform (Comprehensive Or Otherwise)

[gten20]

I know its hopeless but with no options I am hoping against hope if Obama will do something for legals if he ever takes executive action? any ideas experts?

Right now, I doubt even Obama has an idea what he will be doing regarding EO after the Nov. elections. We just have to wait.

[PD2008AUG25]

I know its hopeless but with no options I am hoping against hope if Obama will do something for legals if he ever takes executive action? any ideas experts?

I think he will do something before the end of year, just not sure if there will be anything beyond H4 EAD rule for legals.

[gten20]

NumbersUSA... doing their thing again.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/1...bs-111909.html

[anuprab]

who will tell these bozos that the immigrants waiting in line are already here and just asking for reducing the backlog. Wouldn't it make sense since people will move in and out of jobs and make markets more efficient? But politics and economics never go together..

[kkruna]

Some history on EO

http://www.thelegalintelligencer.com...20140916175305

[YTeleven]

Check this news:http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Immigrant-IDs

[kkruna]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Immigrant-IDs

If Obama was considering EO "at the end of summer" then why was this not set in works earlier?!

[idiotic]

If Obama was considering EO "at the end of summer" then why was this not set in works earlier?!

The above link clearly proves that Obama has given internal directives to Jeh Johnson who is just preparing the agency for the same.. Public announcement is pending because of public anger over border kids and upcoming elections..
I think this is good catch from right wing which administration have trouble escaping from.. Hope that cat will be out of the bag sooner than expected..

[gten20]

The above link clearly proves that Obama has given internal directives to Jeh Johnson who is just preparing the agency for the same.. Public announcement is pending because of public anger over border kids and upcoming elections..
I think this is good catch from right wing which administration have trouble escaping from.. Hope that cat will be out of the bag sooner than expected..

At the risk of sounding pessimistic, I won't get my hopes high yet. This could be for parents of US citizens who are in US illegally. Reuniting family plays well in US politics.

[msdhoni]

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...e&tabmode=list

[EB2IndSep09]

Despite no official action from the president ahead of the election, the Obama administration has quietly begun preparing to issue millions of work authorization permits, suggesting the implementation of a large-scale executive amnesty may have already begun.

34 million blank green cards??

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Immigrant-IDs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-aliens.html

[msdhoni]

Despite no official action from the president ahead of the election, the Obama administration has quietly begun preparing to issue millions of work authorization permits, suggesting the implementation of a large-scale executive amnesty may have already begun.

34 million blank green cards??

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Immigrant-IDs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-aliens.html

In regards to the same - https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...e&tabmode=list

[EB2IndSep09]

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[gten20]

The new solicitation for blank cards could figure into Obama’s expected executive order. An unnamed USCIS official told the Daily Mail that it was posted "in case the president makes the move we think he will.”

Speaking to the conservative outlet Breitbart.com – which first reported on the draft solicitation – Jessica Vaughan of the right-leaning Center for Immigration Studies said the document “seems to indicate that the president is contemplating an enormous executive action that is even more expansive than the plan that Congress rejected” in 2013.

However, an a separate USCIS official told the Daily Mail the draft was published not as part of Obama’s upcoming policy changes, but in case Congress acts to pass immigration reform

Commenting on the polarizing nature of the debate, CNN’s John King dismissed the odds of Congress getting together to pass reform, saying conservatives are determined to oppose the broad strokes of the president’s plans.

"If the president uses his executive power as promised, Republicans will be pushing the grass-roots for confrontation, not compromise,” he said, as quoted by Newsmax.com. “An issue we thought after 2014 Republicans would try to deal with, will be with us until 2016 and beyond."

http://rt.com/usa/197680-immigration-blank-cards-obama/

[idiotic]

The above link clearly proves that Obama has given internal directives to Jeh Johnson who is just preparing the agency for the same.. Public announcement is pending because of public anger over border kids and upcoming elections..
I think this is good catch from right wing which administration have trouble escaping from.. Hope that cat will be out of the bag sooner than expected..

Here is the escape from Administration..

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...migration-ID-s

Ask USCIS, not us

[idiotic]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-stories-crazy

Dancing around.. Very amusing to watch..

[gs1968]

This from buzzfeed

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarras...ions-are-being

No information on changes to the legal immigration system
Maybe we are looking in the wrong place

[imdeng]

Man - comments from nativists on these articles are scary. The backlash to the EO, no matter the size and scope, will be fierce. It might even get violent. I so wish the republicans had just put the Senate bill up for a vote.

The country is changing fast - almost too fast. There are a bunch of people who are finding it difficult to handle this change. Their resentment is being stoked by the political process. I hope the accumulated ill will does not boil over - because if it does it will poison race relations in this country for next 50 years. 50 years from the Civil Rights Act, the country still sees everything from a black-white-race prism. If the current fight turns violent, then for next 50 years we will keep trying in vain to get over the nativist-immigrant divide.

BTW - if you did not get a chance to read Ta-Nehisi Coates' article in The Atlantic called "The Case for Reparations" - its well worth a few minutes of your time. We, as recent immigrants, really have not felt the full weight of the racial history of the country. The country is yet to come to terms with its past (as opposed to, for example, Germany and WWII) - and the new layer that will be added by the EO will only make the task more intractable.

Link to TNC's Atlantic Article: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/...ations/361631/

This from buzzfeed

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarras...ions-are-being

No information on changes to the legal immigration system
Maybe we are looking in the wrong place

[gcq]

Man - comments from nativists on these articles are scary. The backlash to the EO, no matter the size and scope, will be fierce. It might even get violent. I so wish the republicans had just put the Senate bill up for a vote.

The country is changing fast - almost too fast. There are a bunch of people who are finding it difficult to handle this change. Their resentment is being stoked by the political process. I hope the accumulated ill will does not boil over - because if it does it will poison race relations in this country for next 50 years. 50 years from the Civil Rights Act, the country still sees everything from a black-white-race prism. If the current fight turns violent, then for next 50 years we will keep trying in vain to get over the nativist-immigrant divide.

BTW - if you did not get a chance to read Ta-Nehisi Coates' article in The Atlantic called "The Case for Reparations" - its well worth a few minutes of your time. We, as recent immigrants, really have not felt the full weight of the racial history of the country. The country is yet to come to terms with its past (as opposed to, for example, Germany and WWII) - and the new layer that will be added by the EO will only make the task more intractable.

Link to TNC's Atlantic Article: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/...ations/361631/

When we see racial comments in immigration articles, don't think they are the majority ( or even minority) of americans writing those. There are couple of well funded ant-immigrant organizations like NUSA, FAIR etc. NUSA is funded in millions and they have people paid to write these comments in articles. If you search for numbersusa in linked in, there are programmers working for numbers usa. From that we get a clue of how organized and well funded this organization is. Which anti-immigrant organization would need a programmer on their payroll !

[idiotic]

When we see racial comments in immigration articles, don't think they are the majority ( or even minority) of americans writing those. There are couple of well funded ant-immigrant organizations like NUSA, FAIR etc. NUSA is funded in millions and they have people paid to write these comments in articles. If you search for numbersusa in linked in, there are programmers working for numbers usa. From that we get a clue of how organized and well funded this organization is. Which anti-immigrant organization would need a programmer on their payroll !

It is not difficult to figure out they are the proxy for Republican party.. Here is the floor speech calling it out explicitly why any immigration reform negotiation always fails and why it is always net green card neutral solutions the best republicans can do for legal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya-obhOUdv4

[YTeleven]

Another deadline/opportunity for BO is on the way to prove that ...HE CAN DO IT...
Let's see what he will say this time. http://www.musillo.com/2014/10/presi...-h-1b-and.html

[PD2008AUG25]

This is latest...recapture in..family unit out...

Other changes are expected to benefit businesses that use large numbers of legal immigrants, such as technology companies. One change under consideration would “recapture” unused visas from previous years in order to make more visas available to such companies, according to one person familiar with the deliberations. This person said that a second change that companies have requested—changing the way visas are counted so that a family unit counts as only one spot toward the limit—is less likely.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/obama...ons-1414626089

[imdeng]

Dependent counting is the tougher one - legally speaking. Recapture is on sounder legal footing. As far as we are concerned - both/either work. Dependent counting will be a more long term solution - but both will provide immediate relief. At least legal immigration is being included in the discussions. My fear has been that there wouldn't be anything other than EAD for H4 in the EO for legal immigration.

This is latest...recapture in..family unit out...

http://online.wsj.com/articles/obama...ons-1414626089

[idiotic]

This is latest...recapture in..family unit out...



http://online.wsj.com/articles/obama...ons-1414626089

According to me, there are 2 recaptures floating around

1) Recapture of H1B visas
2) Recapture of Permanent Resident Visas

The language in the article sounds to me that this is 1 and not 2.

[imdeng]

I have not come across any discussion of recapture of H1B visa numbers. Only recapture with H1B is that of time spent outside the country - which you can do right now. Any recapture talk regarding visa numbers has happened only in the GC context IIRC. Have I missed something? Any links to the contrary will be appreciated.

According to me, there are 2 recaptures floating around

1) Recapture of H1B visas
2) Recapture of Permanent Resident Visas

The language in the article sounds to me that this is 1 and not 2.