Discussion On The Politics of Immigration Reform (Comprehensive Or Otherwise)

[gs1968]

And they will... Sen. Leahy announced at close of today's meeting that next meeting is on Monday(instead of regular tuesday/thursdays) and they will work late evenings to finish all amedments so that the bill can be printed in memorial day weekend

Their sense of urgency is not shared by the House and it is not expected to just take up the Senate Bill and pass it

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/30...gration-reform

[idiotic]

Their sense of urgency is not shared by the House and it is not expected to just take up the Senate Bill and pass it

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/30...gration-reform

One step at a time. House is a different story altogether.

For now, the next task is to finish with the 220 remaining amendments and get it upto senate floor. Only 80 done so far.

[gs1968]

Finally some agreement in the House

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/30...t-in-principle

[rupen86]

Finally some agreement in the House

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/30...t-in-principle

Yes, I was going to post it. Seems there will be action in house also then.

[vizcard]

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wo...-what-they-do/

Washington Post summary on adopted amendments.

[gs1968]

To vizcard
Before you start following tomorrow's CIR proceedings on Twitter,please spend a few moments reading the following article

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/05/...-to-hell-70098

Saudi religious police chief Sheikh Abdul Latif Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh “said anyone using social media sites – and especially Twitter – ‘has lost this world and his afterlife’

PS-With the House also deciding to release their own CIR Bill-I see nothing new to discuss on the topic till the fall if and when both chambers go to conference.In the meantime we will keep ourselves occupied with stories like the above

[gs1968]

While on the topic of immigration-I felt proud to read this article and this is exactly what the USA needs

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...orld-by-storm/

[vizcard]

To vizcard
Before you start following tomorrow's CIR proceedings on Twitter,please spend a few moments reading the following article

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/05/...-to-hell-70098

Saudi religious police chief Sheikh Abdul Latif Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh “said anyone using social media sites – and especially Twitter – ‘has lost this world and his afterlife’

PS-With the House also deciding to release their own CIR Bill-I see nothing new to discuss on the topic till the fall if and when both chambers go to conference.In the meantime we will keep ourselves occupied with stories like the above

he'll have to get in a long time of ppl damning me to hell

[gcq]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t...w/20155126.cms

SAN FRANCISCO: The technology industry got much of what it wanted in a bill that overhauls federal immigration law.

But in the give-and-take of political bargaining, the legislation emerged with some provisions the industry considers unappealing. Now its lobbyists are feverishly working to get rid of them.

Whether it gets its way could shape, in part, the fate of the overall package — and with it, the fate of millions of migrants to this country.

The industry is unlikely to actively sabotage the bill if it does not get its way. It could, though, stop supporting the cause, as it has enthusiastically done this year. A well-financed group led by Facebook's chief executive, Mark Zuckerberg, has backed television advertisements for Republicans who support the immigration overhaul. A "virtual march" is planned for Wednesday; the event is intended to mobilize tech employees to bombard Congress with automated messages in favor of the bill.

[geterdone]

http://www.leahy.senate.gov/press/ju...ration-reform-

"I believe that given the extensive discussion and debate we have already engaged in during the last two weeks, we should be able to complete Committee consideration of this historic legislation on Wednesday. To do so, we will need to work extended hours today and tomorrow. If our work is not completed by Wednesday night, we will continue on Thursday and, if necessary, on Friday. "

[seahawks2012]

http://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/...eID_1502=45925

Sen. Grassley has proved himself to be anti-H1-B program as whole:

“Over the last week we’ve had a productive conversation on getting immigration reform right for the long-term. From our national security to our economic well-being, there is a lot at stake. We can’t afford to make the same mistakes as we made in 1986. We have to do it the right way. Some amendments have been adopted that make the bill a little better. But despite the thoughtful debate we’ve had this week, many good amendments, even ones that the majority of members have agreed with, have been voted down. Unfortunately, e-verify won’t be mandatory for probably six years. And, we can’t assure high-skilled Americans that they won’t be shoved aside for a foreign worker on an H-1B visa with less or equal skills. Too often, we advocate for increased visa allocations without understanding the heart of the problem. We need to do a better job of ensuring that the companies who need the visas get them. We need to do a better job of oversight.

“Americans deserve a plan that secures the border, enforces the rule of law, and protects American workers, and we have a responsibility to deliver that as the committee moves forward next week.”

[immitime]

USCIS against Senate immigration bill.. Most of them as officers in USCIS are Majigas...aloha aloha.. hola hola. No wonder there is no administration fix...probably all these people got amnesty last time!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...igration-bill/

The text of the statement.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...igration-bill/

[gcq]

USCIS against Senate immigration bill.. Most of them as officers in USCIS are Majigas...aloha aloha.. hola hola. No wonder there is no administration fix...probably all these people got amnesty last time!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...igration-bill/

The text of the statement.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...igration-bill/

It is interesting that the so called Immigration officers don't understand the law. They are not policy makers and they have no stake in this reform. They are just employees who are supposed to do their job as federal government instructs them. Fire them all and hire a more competent work force !

[immitime]

It is interesting that the so called Immigration officers don't understand the law. They are not policy makers and they have no stake in this reform. They are just employees who are supposed to do their job as federal government instructs them. Fire them all and hire a more competent work force !

gcq

The proof is here.. the content in the RFE and the stupid questions as letters these people ask ( I wonder even if they speak English). Previously farm workers joined some community college after getting Amnesty and became USCIS Officers!.

[gcq]

http://news.yahoo.com/senators-requi...164720558.html

At the same time, officials expressed optimism that agreement was in sight in complex private talks over proposed changes to a section of the legislation relating to H-1B high skilled visas. As drafted, the bill would raise the current cap from 65,000 annually to 110,000, with the possibility of a further rise to 180,000.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, whose state is home to a burgeoning high tech industry, sought changes to reduce the cost and other conditions on firms that rely on highly skilled foreign labor.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, advanced the drunk-driving amendment, a proposal that stipulates at least one of three convictions must occur after enactment of the law. It cleared on a vote of 17-1.
It appeared unlikely the issue of the high tech visas would be settled formally until Tuesday.

High-tech companies sought a change in the bill's requirement that they show they've tried to recruit U.S. workers before hiring anyone on an H-1B visa. Hatch's original proposal would make the regulation apply only on the firms most heavily dependent on H-1B visas, not on those where 85 percent of the jobs are filled by American citizens.

[gs1968]

Finally an agreement reached on H1B visas

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congr...-bill-20130521

We will have to see if it passes with 10 votes.

Judiciary Committee has made it through 90% of the Gang of 8 bill amendments. Will regroup at 2:30 to finish of the last 10%.
Leahy says they started with 300 amendments, 28 amendments left for the rest of the bill.

[gcq]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-...1-1059902.aspx

Old news

In a statement issued on Monday, IEEE-USA - the largest American body
of professional engineers asked the Senate Judiciary Committee to reject amendments to the comprehensive immigration bill that would increase H-1B temporary visa numbers, weaken safeguards for US and foreign workers and facilitate the outsourcing of American jobs.

"Outsourcing is damaging to US workers and the American economy. We need laws that promote US job growth, not encourage it to leave our shores," IEEE-USA president Marc Apter said.

"We encourage the Senate to maintain the high-tech provisions as written," said Apter.

[gcq]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-pl...122157872.html

When it comes to immigration reform, perhaps no senator has been more vocal about their displeasure with the newest bill, drafted by the group of bipartisan senators known as the "Gang of Eight," than Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.)--the Republican many blame for the defeat of the last immigration reform bill in 2008.

“This bill, written by the 'Gang of Eight,' without public process, that stacked in the committee and determined to move it through with little or no changes, it,” Sessions said.

But many pro-immigration reform voices are suspicious that the 49 amendments Sessions has filed, second only to the whopping 77 amendments filed by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), are designed to kill the bill rather than change it. Sessions says that's not so.

[gcq]

From **:
On the green card side, here are the positive changes in the Hatch-Schumer amendment -

1.) Allow filing Adjustment of status when the visa number is not available per the visa bulletin meaning EB applicants can file I-485 concurrently with I-140, as soon as the labor certification is approved. 6 months after filing I-485, EB applicants can change jobs/employers.

2.) If you change the job on AC21, your petitioning employer cannot withdraw immigrant petition. People have to go through all sorts of head-ache and risk changing jobs on AC21 due to the fear of backlash of the employer.

These two changes are designed to allow people to change jobs/employers quickly.

Because employers cannot have more than 15% employees on H-1, employers will have an incentive to apply for green cards quickly, meaning getting labor certifications quickly, meaning having the ability to change jobs/employers quickly, without risking green card petition.

Hope this makes sense.

[immitime]

The real problem rather than 11 million illegal is same sex marriage amendment inclusion. The real hindrance is same sex marriage in the Senate.. Congress only GOD knows what all new things comes...
Each dog is seeing the fire hydrant and ready to lift the leg... many many many amendments to come.. Sen Cronnyn already said he don't want to vote in this present state.. In the floor he will try to improve with his own interests.. so around 70 Senators will do the same.

[seahawks2012]

While this bill is being actively negotiated in Senate, there has been no news from the House about immigration reform bill or bills. Does this mean House is playing 'wait n see' for the CIR bill in Senate?

[immitime]

Senate Judiciary committee approves immigration bill.. votes 13 yes and 5 nays..

[qesehmk]

A positive move ...
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...on-reform?lite

[vizcard]

While this bill is being actively negotiated in Senate, there has been no news from the House about immigration reform bill or bills. Does this mean House is playing 'wait n see' for the CIR bill in Senate?

House will publish their own bill

[gs1968]

To seahawks

The House situation is in crash and burn mode

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...9.html?hp=t3_3

On a different note I really thought that Sen.Cornyn would vote yes on the final Bill.Sen.Hatch sided with the conservatives with most amendments except for the one he wanted.
At least the consensus opinion is that there will be no roadblocks to full debate on the Senate Floor.

If we want to get a feel for the House Judiciary committee's views on the Senate Bill, a hearing is scheduled for tomorrow

http://judiciary.house.gov/news/2013/05212013_2.html

Clearly the witness list is more tilted to the right than one would expect in the Senate