Discussion On The Politics of Immigration Reform (Comprehensive Or Otherwise)

[gs1968]

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2013/...ation-reforms/

[rupen86]

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2013/...ation-reforms/

Looks like, house bill won't be introduced next week and there is already suspicion that senate bill will be delayed by a week.

[gs1968]

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hou...4/05/id/498039

[rupen86]

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hou...4/05/id/498039

Seems very important article and provides some latest facts but also vague on some of the things.
1) It says that house bill won't provide amnesty and that it will differ from senate bill and indicates that senate bill is like amnesty. But it also says that it is not good for people to be here who can not aspire to be citizens. This may mean that they will provide different kind of path to citizenship.
2) It clearly says senate bill won't be introduced next week.
3) It says that house may try to pass series of bills instead of one. I am thinking that house may work on series of bills and later combine them into one.

[gs1968]

To rupen86
I think a few of us have gotten ourselves into this mode of mining news sources and going on a roller-coaster ride multiple times a day. It might help to take a break (going to be difficult!) and enjoy the family and weather and come back to this in Aug/Sept which is the earliest when I feel any meaningful legislative action is possible. Also the Bills introduced now in either chamber may not resemble the final product after committee/chamber/conference consideration. For this reason,there is no need to be overjoyed if the provisions in the Bill are favorable or dejected if they are unfavorable

[gs1968]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...reform-package

"...and said they hoped to unveil a proposal by year’s end."

"But neither would give a timeline on when the bill would be released."

How did next week become year-end?

[abcx13]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/...g-leagues.html
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...esident-obama/ - Finally guesses at a vote count - 70 in the Senate.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...tion-overhaul/

Re the post above, I think he's just saying that CIR has to be done this year.

[qesehmk]

I will echo this and add that while posting links is useful, posting your own 2 cents on the news is much more valuable. Nowadays it is so easy to find immigration related news ... anybody can easily create a google news feed.

But if they get your 2 cents on why this news matters and what we should take away from this - that is really the value add. So please think about it in the interest of the readers.

To rupen86
I think a few of us have gotten ourselves into this mode of mining news sources and going on a roller-coaster ride multiple times a day. It might help to take a break (going to be difficult!) and enjoy the family and weather and come back to this in Aug/Sept which is the earliest when I feel any meaningful legislative action is possible. Also the Bills introduced now in either chamber may not resemble the final product after committee/chamber/conference consideration. For this reason,there is no need to be overjoyed if the provisions in the Bill are favorable or dejected if they are unfavorable

[rupen86]

To rupen86
I think a few of us have gotten ourselves into this mode of mining news sources and going on a roller-coaster ride multiple times a day. It might help to take a break (going to be difficult!) and enjoy the family and weather and come back to this in Aug/Sept which is the earliest when I feel any meaningful legislative action is possible. Also the Bills introduced now in either chamber may not resemble the final product after committee/chamber/conference consideration. For this reason,there is no need to be overjoyed if the provisions in the Bill are favorable or dejected if they are unfavorable

I agree. It is like addiction. If people come back here around August, they would have lost lot of news but it would not matter because those news won't make a difference in their life. In August, people might still be discussing about bill but may be different things. It might help to read less about this and just check occasionally. I would be hard to do that because as I said it is addiction.

[immitime]

I agree. It is like addiction. If people come back here around August, they would have lost lot of news but it would not matter because those news won't make a difference in their life. In August, people might still be discussing about bill but may be different things. It might help to read less about this and just check occasionally. I would be hard to do that because as I said it is addiction.

Water Water everywhere nor a little drop to drink -----this is the condition of Legal immigrants.

See CNN report today about UN-documented immigrants.... don't say Illegal huh...

As someone said.. "Politics is the last game of a scoundrel"

http://youtu.be/dnWZhRrvwGU

[geterdone]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/op...-visas.html?hp

reader comments are not friendly as usual

[rupen86]

Different take on Rubio's position.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ration-reform/

[rupen86]

Things to watch for in immigration debate.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ate-89728.html

[abcx13]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...f35_story.html

We're now talking two weeks from now apparently.

[rupen86]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...f35_story.html

We're now talking two weeks from now apparently.

Interesting thing to note here is that, all 8 will oppose amendments to the core things. Seems like a right strategy. It seems like, there is lot left to be done. Not just drafting but actual negotiations are also happening in parallel. Also, it says, bill would be on the senate floor after the memorial weekend which means committee would have one full month or more than that. That does not align with what Leahy was suggesting.

[gcq]

Tell him what it contains so that he can let NumbersUSA campaign against it right away !

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/05/senate-judiciary-republicans-call-for-immigration-reform-transparency-from-gang-of-8-republicans/

[rupen86]

Tell him what it contains so that he can let NumbersUSA campaign against it right away !

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/05/senate-judiciary-republicans-call-for-immigration-reform-transparency-from-gang-of-8-republicans/

I do not know how much difference it is going to make if they know one week in advance. I do not know how Rubio got permission to brief them ahead of unveiling the bill.

[gs1968]

Let the fun & games begin!

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/2...ll-by-thursday

[rupen86]

Let the fun & games begin!

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/2...ll-by-thursday

Good news

[abcx13]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...mains-unclear/

And then there's this...

[gs1968]

To abcx13,rupen86,immitime & others
Given the amount of time we are spending on this legislation everyday-we should form our own Gang of Eight and send our own legislative proposals to the Senators!!

[rupen86]

To abcx13,rupen86,immitime & others
Given the amount of time we are spending on this legislation everyday-we should form our own Gang of Eight and send our own legislative proposals to the Senators!!

Good one

[gs1968]

This is now starting to resemble the usual omnibus, special-interest driven,pork-laden drivel that the Senate has so become used to passing in order to get to the 60 vote threshold

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...7.html?hp=t3_3

Suddenly everything is included-Irish E-3,Polish visa waiver,H-1B,California farm workers,Vermont Dairy farmers.New York Apple growers,Florida cruise ship employees,Chicago construction workers etc, etc!!

However this line is providing some hope-elimination of country-cap maybe or is it referring to STEM visas/H-1B?

" It would affect immigration from countries ranging from Mexico to India and industries ranging from biotech firms to restaurants"

[CleanSock]

30% high tech visas for every 70% high tech Americans employed? Are they planning to bring the limit down to 50k (30k for all and 20k for masters students)? If this is what is in store for high skilled people then I would want it to fail!

This is now starting to resemble the usual omnibus, special-interest driven,pork-laden drivel that the Senate has so become used to passing in order to get to the 60 vote threshold

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...7.html?hp=t3_3

Suddenly everything is included-Irish E-3,Polish visa waiver,H-1B,California farm workers,Vermont Dairy farmers.New York Apple growers,Florida cruise ship employees,Chicago construction workers etc, etc!!

However this line is providing some hope-elimination of country-cap maybe or is it referring to STEM visas/H-1B?

" It would affect immigration from countries ranging from Mexico to India and industries ranging from biotech firms to restaurants"

[rupen86]

30% high tech visas for every 70% high tech Americans employed? Are they planning to bring the limit down to 50k (30k for all and 20k for masters students)? If this is what is in store for high skilled people then I would want it to fail!

I think they are talking about companies having 70% gc/citizens and no more than 30% h1bs.