Birth Certificate Related

[nayekal]

unfortunately this will not be sufficient. One of my friends who got a GC last month got a RFE on birth certificate issued by Indian Consulate in Houston. Try to get an affidavit from one of your parents. You'll find several templates for this affidavit on google.

QUOTE=nayekal;6419]I recently got a BC from Indian Consulate.

It mentions that I was born on so and so date to My parents (names) in this City as per the details present in the Passport.
It is just a copy and paste of details from passport.
Do you guys think, this is ok?

[/QUOTE]
Another problem is it is not on the Indian Consulate Letter Head and the header says
"To whom so ever it may concern" and at some where else it says BC.
Of course, it has a stamp with the official signature.

Thanks to your suggestion, I will get the affidavit from India.

[manipur]

Finally I am current after 4 years of wait. Thanks Q and feb 4s, this forum is fantastic.
I got some questions.
My mother's name is misspelled in Hindi, is it possible to get it corrected in English translation services.
Also do you have any link which has affidavit which can be used instead of birth certificate? My mother is here in US, Can I get it notarized in US or we need only Indian Notary services.

[Sandeep2011]

gchopeful,

I agree with what Nishant had to say on your questions. Regarding your birth certificate, when was it issued? Was it issued within a year of your birth? If not, please get an affidavit from one of your parents. This is what our company lawyer has told all of us who are from India. No harm in validating this with your lawyer now instead of getting a RFE later.

Replied below:
Congrats to everyone who is current for Oct. Though I think most of you would be documentarily qualified, I had some questions on the I-485 filing once PD is current. Note that my PD is Sep 2007, therefore I havent been able to even file I-485 yet, but need to be prepared.

1) How much time is available to file the I-485 once the PD becomes current e.g. if PD is current within Oct 11 VB, does it mean that the application can be submitted any time between Oct 1 - Oct 31? - or is it critical that the application reach USCIS on Oct 1st itself?

Your PD should be current when they receive your application (or postmarked, not sure, can anyone else enlighten), this is my understanding. the VB is for a month, so Oct 1st to Oct 31st, anytime it can reach. Now when you are in October, the November bulletin will be released, so if that bulletin says that the date is retrogressed, then your date won't be current in November. It is not necessary that it reaches on the 1st itself, however I have heard that the receipt date of the application may matter, especially when there is crunch time to release visas, i.e. visas are less, and demand span is more. So best to get it in as early as possible.

2) If there is a delay in medical evaluation, can the I-485 be submitted first just to get the foot in the door and the medical forms submitted later on?

You surely get RFE for medicals if they are incomplete or not provided, I have never heard of a case where you got directly denied. Please ask a lawyer for fool-proof answer. IMHO, we should get the medicals done, and not take a chance. I would be ready to drive 200 miles into another state or city if all the approved civil surgeons in my city are busy and can't give appointment.

3) I have copy of birth certificates which are in english and with accurate information. In this case, are affidavits still required or will the birth certificates suffice?

You don't need affidavit.

[Jan2008]

gchopeful,

I agree with what Nishant had to say on your questions. Regarding your birth certificate, when was it issued? Was it issued within a year of your birth? If not, please get an affidavit from one of your parents. This is what our company lawyer has told all of us who are from India. No harm in validating this with your lawyer now instead of getting a RFE later.

gchopeful,
My father had requested my birth certificate from the municipal corp about 5 years ago. It's in english and with full information regarding my parents. Do I still need to ask my parents to provide an affidavit? I will reach out to my lawyer to get further details but in the meantime if you can shed some light here that will be great.

Also, how soon can you get your shots for the medical records during filing? Do these shots have to be taken within certain timeframe of applying for I-485? Since my pd is Jan 6th 2008 and I hoping to be able to file I485 in December 2013 FY, I want to keep everything ready just in case. Please advice.

[Eb2_Dec07]

Gurus , please advise . My PD is in Dec 07 EB2 Ind . But my mother's middle name is spelled incorrectly in my birth certificate . Will it cause any problems . Birth certificate is from Ind and in English . Please advise .

[nishant2200]

There are two dates on certificate generally. Date of registeration and date of issue. In my case date of registeration is around date of birth, but date of issue is newer as I had it re-issued to me so that I get in their latest format which is bi-lingual. My lawyer said to me either of the two dates won't matter, only need birth certificate.

gchopeful,

I agree with what Nishant had to say on your questions. Regarding your birth certificate, when was it issued? Was it issued within a year of your birth? If not, please get an affidavit from one of your parents. This is what our company lawyer has told all of us who are from India. No harm in validating this with your lawyer now instead of getting a RFE later.

[Sandeep2011]

This is what my company lawyer had said, i am quoting him verbatim "the date of registration of your birth has to be within one year of your birth. This is in line with accepted legal practices in US. If your birth was not registered within a year of your birth, you'll need an affidavit from one of your parents or from one of your close relatives in case your parents have deceased. India passed its birth registration act in 1969, so anyone who was born after this date must have a birth certificate as per Indian law. If you do not have a birth certificate at all, please call my office to discuss the exact wording on affidavit." IMHO, for those of us whose PD is between July 15'07 and March'08, we should reach out to our respective lawyers to discuss this. Different lawyers have different takes on this as you can see from what my lawyer had to say vs Nishant's lawyer.

There are two dates on certificate generally. Date of registeration and date of issue. In my case date of registeration is around date of birth, but date of issue is newer as I had it re-issued to me so that I get in their latest format which is bi-lingual. My lawyer said to me either of the two dates won't matter, only need birth certificate.

[nishant2200]

That's very good suggestion. Also no harm in getting any affidavits from right now so that our old parents or siblings don't have to run around for us at last moment. RFE response time is generally 30 days I think out of which a week sometimes get lost in postal transit to lawyer's office.

In my case, my mother's name has 'ben' appended in birth certificate, and my dad has 'kumar' everywhere, but I only used without these tags in passport and my US records. So I have already kept ready, 'one and same person' affidavits from them both, as well as letter from school verifying my name, date of birth, place of birth, parent's name, in their records. In fact might be overkill, but am also thinking to get birth affidavits in advance.

All this just advance preparation for response to RFE, will not provide with application. As per both my lawyer and question asked by me on Ron Gotcher's forum, very low chance of this level of scrutiny. But a chance is a chance.

This is what my company lawyer had said, i am quoting him verbatim "the date of registration of your birth has to be within one year of your birth. This is in line with accepted legal practices in US. If your birth was not registered within a year of your birth, you'll need an affidavit from one of your parents or from one of your close relatives in case your parents have deceased. India passed its birth registration act in 1969, so anyone who was born after this date must have a birth certificate as per Indian law. If you do not have a birth certificate at all, please call my office to discuss the exact wording on affidavit." IMHO, for those of us whose PD is between July 15'07 and March'08, we should reach out to our respective lawyers to discuss this. Different lawyers have different takes on this as you can see from what my lawyer had to say vs Nishant's lawyer.

[gcoracle]

Guys don't sweat it out in getting the birth certificates. Don't trouble your parents/relatives/friends. Who has time and patience to run around? Try using services of yourmaninindia.com or alliedlegalonline.com (I used these guys and got my NABC in two weeks). Just google, there are several others. If you can't get a birth certificate that is not registered within a year of birth, get NABC and parents/relatives affidavits. I693 is valid only for a year, if you are not current then don't bother yet but go to your regular doctor and get blood work done for the following vaccines http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...004718190aRCRD. Get vaccinated only for those that are required and take that report when you go to get your I693 filled. And make sure to call several clinics and ask what they charge, from my experience they range from $150 to $450 per person.

[soggadu]

That's very good suggestion. Also no harm in getting any affidavits from right now so that our old parents or siblings don't have to run around for us at last moment. RFE response time is generally 30 days I think out of which a week sometimes get lost in postal transit to lawyer's office.

In my case, my mother's name has 'ben' appended in birth certificate, and my dad has 'kumar' everywhere, but I only used without these tags in passport and my US records. So I have already kept ready, 'one and same person' affidavits from them both, as well as letter from school verifying my name, date of birth, place of birth, parent's name, in their records. In fact might be overkill, but am also thinking to get birth affidavits in advance.

All this just advance preparation for response to RFE, will not provide with application. As per both my lawyer and question asked by me on Ron Gotcher's forum, very low chance of this level of scrutiny. But a chance is a chance.

i did the same thing nishant... got my affidavits 2 months back...once the affidavits are made, they are good for ever... my problem was, i have my name as SoggaduK in birth certifcate but original name is like Soggadu Kapoor. Also, my wife got her BC recently ( registered in 2008 ), so i guess it is better to get a affidavit for her too right?

[nishant2200]

i did the same thing nishant... got my affidavits 2 months back...once the affidavits are made, they are good for ever... my problem was, i have my name as SoggaduK in birth certifcate but original name is like Soggadu Kapoor. Also, my wife got her BC recently ( registered in 2008 ), so i guess it is better to get a affidavit for her too right?

sogaddu, after the recent information provided by Sandeep, I did some digging on the internet, and found this:
http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/

this article talks about situation wherein date of registration is later than one year after birth.

So I guess we might need it.

What an hassle! I think they need the birth certificate to prove country of chargeability, why would one lie about being born in India, it's only going to push us into years of waiting!

[nishant2200]

sogaddu, after the recent information provided by Sandeep, I did some digging on the internet, and found this:
http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/

this article talks about situation wherein date of registration is later than one year after birth.

So I guess we might need it.

What an hassle! I think they need the birth certificate to prove country of chargeability, why would one lie about being born in India, it's only going to push us into years of waiting!

dude sogaddu, wov, I just happened to see my wife's BC, and it also has a date of registration of 2005. more affidavits coming my way then. thank you sogaddu and sandeep!

[psczd4]

One of my suggested to me about this forum and for the past few days I’ve going through the posts- I liked this forum very much.- Thanks to all the folks.

My EB2-PD is August 2007 and based on the current movement in the bulletin, I’m hoping to be in the line soon to file for my I 485. I went through I 485 documentation requirements and my question is related to the marriage / divorce certificate. I’m a divorcee since September 2004- was married in India and got my divorce in the US Court. This being my case, do I still need to provide both the marriage and divorce certificate? I don’t think it is necessary but thought of running this question through this forum for any thoughts or suggestions.
Thanks,

[gchopeful123]

My date of registration is within a year...phew !!! (though the date if reissue is newer)

That's very good suggestion. Also no harm in getting any affidavits from right now so that our old parents or siblings don't have to run around for us at last moment. RFE response time is generally 30 days I think out of which a week sometimes get lost in postal transit to lawyer's office.

In my case, my mother's name has 'ben' appended in birth certificate, and my dad has 'kumar' everywhere, but I only used without these tags in passport and my US records. So I have already kept ready, 'one and same person' affidavits from them both, as well as letter from school verifying my name, date of birth, place of birth, parent's name, in their records. In fact might be overkill, but am also thinking to get birth affidavits in advance.

All this just advance preparation for response to RFE, will not provide with application. As per both my lawyer and question asked by me on Ron Gotcher's forum, very low chance of this level of scrutiny. But a chance is a chance.

This is what my company lawyer had said, i am quoting him verbatim "the date of registration of your birth has to be within one year of your birth. This is in line with accepted legal practices in US. If your birth was not registered within a year of your birth, you'll need an affidavit from one of your parents or from one of your close relatives in case your parents have deceased. India passed its birth registration act in 1969, so anyone who was born after this date must have a birth certificate as per Indian law. If you do not have a birth certificate at all, please call my office to discuss the exact wording on affidavit." IMHO, for those of us whose PD is between July 15'07 and March'08, we should reach out to our respective lawyers to discuss this. Different lawyers have different takes on this as you can see from what my lawyer had to say vs Nishant's lawyer.

[aaron385]

in iindia as well as in USA ... i have affidavits on plane paper. No stamp paper needed (confirmed with our company immigration specialist). Yes you can go to any notary... amscot/ups etc.

I don't have my name on original Birth Certificate and original BC is in Hindi language.

• Do I need to get my original BC (w/o name) translated in English? Who should sign that translation?
  
• Do I need two separate affidavits from my Mother and Father or can I get one combined affidavited signed by both of them?

[skpanda]

I don't have my name on original Birth Certificate and original BC is in Hindi language.

• Do I need to get my original BC (w/o name) translated in English? Who should sign that translation?
  
• Do I need two separate affidavits from my Mother and Father or can I get one combined affidavited signed by both of them?
  
  
  

1st item - Not sure. You may have to check with an expert or USCIS directions. I know for sure that if you have affidavits you do not need BC.

2nd item - SSeparate. One each.

[makmohan]

This may or may not be a related question. Apologies if it is not.

My PD is April 2008 which is (at least) 2 solid years away from becoming current. I have started my part-time school and need to be up-to-date with my immunization as part of their compliance. Looks like I will have to get MMR, Tetanus, Hep B shots among the others. This also is a requirement for vaccine history required during AOS (485) after my PD becomes current.

If I take the shots now, assuming that my PD gets current in 2 more years, will I have to take shots again in 2 yrs? Is there any validity on these shots or do they expire? If I am taking shots now, I don't want to take shots again in 2yrs because they expire. Hopefully taking shots now will help me avoiding any delays when I file for AOS.

Any help is appreciated,
M

[TeddyKoochu]

This may or may not be a related question. Apologies if it is not.

My PD is April 2008 which is (at least) 2 solid years away from becoming current. I have started my part-time school and need to be up-to-date with my immunization as part of their compliance. Looks like I will have to get MMR, Tetanus, Hep B shots among the others. This also is a requirement for vaccine history required during AOS (485) after my PD becomes current.

If I take the shots now, assuming that my PD gets current in 2 more years, will I have to take shots again in 2 yrs? Is there any validity on these shots or do they expire? If I am taking shots now, I don't want to take shots again in 2yrs because they expire. Hopefully taking shots now will help me avoiding any delays when I file for AOS.

Any help is appreciated,
M

Refer to the following link for details.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...0045f3d6a1RCRD

The exam results are valid for a year only but the vaccination record should really be valid forever.

[nishant2200]

My cousin told me that Kaiser Permanante does the vaccinations for free if you are a member.

I am not in Kaiser insurance, but I am guessing many people in california, or wherever kaiser is, might be, so it's worth asking. Again only for vaccinations, I am not saying to get TB exam or other blood tests etc done. Only talking about page 4 of form I-693, which is section 5. Vaccinations

Refer to the following link for details.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...0045f3d6a1RCRD

The exam results are valid for a year only but the vaccination record should really be valid forever.

[soggadu]

This may or may not be a related question. Apologies if it is not.

My PD is April 2008 which is (at least) 2 solid years away from becoming current. I have started my part-time school and need to be up-to-date with my immunization as part of their compliance. Looks like I will have to get MMR, Tetanus, Hep B shots among the others. This also is a requirement for vaccine history required during AOS (485) after my PD becomes current.

If I take the shots now, assuming that my PD gets current in 2 more years, will I have to take shots again in 2 yrs? Is there any validity on these shots or do they expire? If I am taking shots now, I don't want to take shots again in 2yrs because they expire. Hopefully taking shots now will help me avoiding any delays when I file for AOS.

Any help is appreciated,
M

Mohan pyaare... imho, you need to get vaccines just once unlike flu shots and maintain the records. When u r ready for 485, submit it to your doc... also the doc will know from your initial blood work... so no tensions...hey good luck in school...ek din tum jaroor collector banoogeeeeeeee.....

[soggadu]

My cousin told me that Kaiser Permanante does the vaccinations for free if you are a member.

I am not in Kaiser insurance, but I am guessing many people in california, or wherever kaiser is, might be, so it's worth asking. Again only for vaccinations, I am not saying to get TB exam or other blood tests etc done. Only talking about page 4 of form I-693, which is section 5. Vaccinations

hey... Cant we get free vaccines at government hospital or something... just checking to get these done...what say you guys...

[nishant2200]

hey... Cant we get free vaccines at government hospital or something... just checking to get these done...what say you guys...

I know that you can check if your county has public health clinic which offer them cheap, not free. There are discounted prices further if you belong to low income group in these public health clinics.

I am not sure but only reason I didn't go for all these so far is, I am presuming the civil surgeon will do some blood test to find out what vaccines I really need. I don't have any proof of what vaccines I have. I myself need guidance on this, do the civil surgeons or vaccine clinics just blindly give you whatever is possible, or do they find out somehow, which you already have and dont need.

[soggadu]

I know that you can check if your county has public health clinic which offer them cheap, not free. There are discounted prices further if you belong to low income group in these public health clinics.

I am not sure but only reason I didn't go for all these so far is, I am presuming the civil surgeon will do some blood test to find out what vaccines I really need. I don't have any proof of what vaccines I have. I myself need guidance on this, do the civil surgeons or vaccine clinics just blindly give you whatever is possible, or do they find out somehow, which you already have and dont need.

ok...

Gang of people... please suggest any good doctor in central jersey for this in ur experience...

[evoori]

Can anyone who is already greened throw some light on timeline..how much time does it take to get blood results get and then the new vaccinations.. what is the best route one can adapt for this ? My PD is Sep 07 and I was wondering should I start looking into it.. after BC, I think this is gonna be biggest of headache..

hey... Cant we get free vaccines at government hospital or something... just checking to get these done...what say you guys...

[gchopeful123]

Here's my plan of action. I have verified from a friend that this will work. I am all set with part 1 for myself and family.

1) Go to your primary physician (covered by your company/personal insurance) and tell him/her to do a blood test to check the titers for the MMR, Tdap & Varicella. Based on the blood report,if the doctor finds that you really need the vaccines, you can take the vaccine in his/her office. This is COVERED by insurance since he/her is primary physician and NOT the civil surgeon. So no need to go to county hospital etc for cheap vaccines. Get a note from doctor that you have been given these vaccines on that particular date. Also, keep a copy of blood report. Once you get these you are set, there is no time limit/expiration for these reports.

2) When you are ready to apply for 485, call the civil surgeon office to book an appt. Let them know that you have proof of vaccinations. Your bill from the civil surgeon will be considerably reduced since you already have the proof that you have all required vaccinations. If the surgeon insists that you need to do another blood report for titers,etc or if he insists on giving you vaccines again then he is a crook. Better avoid.

I know that you can check if your county has public health clinic which offer them cheap, not free. There are discounted prices further if you belong to low income group in these public health clinics.

I am not sure but only reason I didn't go for all these so far is, I am presuming the civil surgeon will do some blood test to find out what vaccines I really need. I don't have any proof of what vaccines I have. I myself need guidance on this, do the civil surgeons or vaccine clinics just blindly give you whatever is possible, or do they find out somehow, which you already have and dont need.

hey... Cant we get free vaccines at government hospital or something... just checking to get these done...what say you guys...