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  1. #1876
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    nishants analysis validates my gut feeling/ fear that the dates will not move beyond the Dec VB until the next SO period.

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    Maybe it's just me, but I think the calculations over here are getting way too noisy.

    On another thread, I think if the VB below Mar 2008, then it's totally nuts. Seriously, I mean the last VB says "significant forward movement" and after that also goes in front of the nation's lawyers and says "After all calculations we'll need move it to at least Mar 2008". Either you keep quiet and do your thing, or you talk and then walk your talk. If you say something and do something else, then I'm sorry but qbf has the right words for that.
    Last edited by tanu_75; 11-08-2011 at 09:39 PM.

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    Thanks for your continued Contributions Teddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanu_75 View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I think the calculations over here are getting way too noisy.

    On another thread, I think if the VB below Mar 2008, then it's totally nuts. Seriously, I mean the last VB says "significant forward movement" and after that also goes in front of the nation's lawyers and says "After all calculations we'll need move it to at least Mar 2008". Either you keep quiet and do your thing, or you talk and then walk your talk. If you say something and do something else, then I'm sorry but qbf has the right words for that.
    That's a good point. This VB is most hyped one for whatever reasons. Sometimes I feel like I am watching 'aajTak-sabase Tej'. Channel. Too much analysis on same numbers again and again. . Let's all take break from calculations for now.

    BTW - I share some part of blame too

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    Tanu: Sis! I am glad someone shares my viewpoint!!

    I have utmost respect for Teddy and Spec's views. Those 2 are just awesome guys with all their Math work!

    But this thread is getting very noisy about reading into each word and over analysing the numbers..

    It is just not what it used to be, where you come in, read some good math and log off. I need to surf a few pages to get some decent information out. Just my view

    Quote Originally Posted by suninphx View Post
    That's a good point. This VB is most hyped one for whatever reasons. Sometimes I feel like I am watching 'aajTak-sabase Tej'. Channel. Too much analysis on same numbers again and again. . Let's all take break from calculations for now.

    BTW - I share some part of blame too
    Last edited by RMS_V13; 11-09-2011 at 11:07 AM.

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    I think people started to analyze only in the last couple of days because VB didn't show up as expected. I think before that people took CO's( +Murthy's ) statement for granted. Historically, there would have been huge discussion on the inventory data, we didn't see that either

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMS_V13 View Post
    Tanu: Sis! I am glad someone shares my viewpoint!!

    I have utmost respect for Teddy and Spec's views. Those 2 are just awesome guys with all their Math work!

    But this thread is getting very noisy about reading into each word and over analysing the numbers..

    It is just not what it used to be, where you come in, read some good math and log off. I need to surf a few pages to get some decent information out. Just my view
    To some extent I guess it is understandable given the hype that CO himself has created and secondly the odd fact that it's been on "Coming Soon" for the past week.

    But sometimes I can't follow the new calculations lead nor understand if it makes more than a few basis points impact. All power to the folks going at it, but for me I think that over-analysis fatigue has set in and I just go to Spec's matrix sheet and plug in based on a consensus update every now and then. Spec's sheet is truly awesome and brings great clarity.

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    Demand data released

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    here we go... just 300 pending...

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Empl...utOffDates.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by shreyasai2004 View Post
    Demand data released
    EB2 I, PD: Jan 10 2008
    TSC | RD: 01-Dec-2011 | ND: 05-Dec-2011 | FP Done on:01/09/2012 | EAD Received on: 01/26/2012, 485 CPO received on: 02/13/2012, Card Received on: 02/17/2012

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    Dates would surely have to move significantly forward - Nishant get ready to open the bubbly

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    is that numbers includes PWMB?

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    I believe the VB will release with significant date movement in 3 hrs.

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    I think the reason for releasing the VB a little late is clear... CO wants to clear as many pending applications as possible so that demand data looks empty... this will help him to advance dates significantly...

    fella's prepare for a big movement
    EB2 I, PD: Jan 10 2008
    TSC | RD: 01-Dec-2011 | ND: 05-Dec-2011 | FP Done on:01/09/2012 | EAD Received on: 01/26/2012, 485 CPO received on: 02/13/2012, Card Received on: 02/17/2012

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    The Dec demand data bodes well for upcoming VB. This is perfect stage for CO to move dates significantly in next few VBs. Good luck to everyone waiting to be current

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    Since the Demand is zero, I wish CO makes the dates current.. but then I know I am day dreaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by familyguy View Post
    Seems PWMB's and Aug17th-Sep 30th filers did not get counted in this demand? How come???

    So demand data means preadjudicated (ready to approve) in that case only 75 ROW? WTH!!! May be CP applications counted in this?

    This CO and USCIS data is clear as Mud!
    Last edited by polapragada; 11-09-2011 at 09:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polapragada View Post
    Seems PWMB's and Aug17th-Sep 30th filers did not get counted in this demand? How come???
    Those would not be documentarily qualified as yet. no?

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    Demand Data is the numbers which are ready, on the mark get set go to pick Visa numbers ( race is from USCIS to Dos), which is Officially called Pre-adjudicated cases.

    PWMB's and Aug17th-Sep 30th are getting ready in the Green room for the next race schedule.

    On the other note , are we not selfish and mean ?

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    you are correct Yesman

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesman View Post
    Those would not be documentarily qualified as yet. no?
    So you are saying demand data means Preadjudicated (or) applications validated for documents completeness (Say initial Review)? May be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by polapragada View Post
    Seems PWMB's and Aug17th-Sep 30th filers did not get counted in this demand? How come???

    So demand data means preadjudicated (ready to approve) in that case only 75 ROW? WTH!!! May be CP applications counted in this?

    This CO and USCIS data is clear as Mud!
    75 is not ROW, but the cumulative worldwide (India+China+ROW)

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    [QUOTE=Kanmani;13151]Demand Data is the numbers which are ready, on the mark get set go to pick Visa numbers ( race is from USCIS to Dos), which is Officially called Pre-adjudicated cases.

    PWMB's and Aug17th-Sep 30th are getting ready in the Green room for the next race schedule.

    On the other note , are we not selfish and mean ?[/QUOTE]

    Are you asking me??

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    It's Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by polapragada View Post
    Seems PWMB's and Aug17th-Sep 30th filers did not get counted in this demand? How come???

    So demand data means preadjudicated (ready to approve) in that case only 75 ROW? WTH!!! May be CP applications counted in this?

    This CO and USCIS data is clear as Mud!
    PWMB's - When become qualfied for visa will receive visa allocation in that month itself and will be approved immediately, sowill never make it to the demand data.

    Aug17th-Sep 30th filers - They are still not qualified for visas, so will not be counted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesman View Post
    75 is not ROW, but the cumulative worldwide (India+China+ROW)
    NO! it is ROW see the 3rd column

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    I believe this demand data generated as of 1st November. As we already know all cases as of 15th July are cleared, and no surprise demand data shows clean.

    Quote Originally Posted by polapragada View Post
    Seems PWMB's and Aug17th-Sep 30th filers did not get counted in this demand? How come???

    So demand data means preadjudicated (ready to approve) in that case only 75 ROW? WTH!!! May be CP applications counted in this?

    This CO and USCIS data is clear as Mud!

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