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  1. #126
    Since there was no fresh intake for past 3 months, 8K is ready for approval. 5000 is all they approved in Aug and Sep.
    Quote Originally Posted by rdsingh79 View Post
    Guys, Demand data for Nov is out. Only 3000 EB2IC demand for Nov!!!

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Empl...utOffDates.pdf

  2. #127
    This could just be my paranoia but my gut feeling says this is not good news that they have released the demand data so early. This implies that they have made up their mind on the movement (or lack of it).

    Regards
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  3. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by rdsingh79 View Post
    Guys, Demand data for Nov is out. Only 2675 demand before Jan 1, 2008. This means DOS have released 5600 EB2IC quota in october itself.

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Empl...utOffDates.pdf
    So does this bode well for the upcoming bulletin?

  4. #129
    Demand data for Nov month does not influence Nov VB, you need to add I-485 processing time delta.
    Quote Originally Posted by natvyas View Post
    This could just be my paranoia but my gut feeling says this is not good news that they have released the demand data so early. This implies that they have made up their mind on the movement (or lack of it).

    Regards
    Nat

  5. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Monica12 View Post
    Nishant, Bingo ! you were right...looks like the Nov Vb will be out on Friday or even before.
    To be fair its rdsingh79.

    Wov guys! I have no words. Good work rd wov.

    Now this is really setting stage for BTM, what else can it be.

  6. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by needid View Post
    Demand data for Nov month does not influence Nov VB, you need to add I-485 processing time delta.
    This demand data is for Nov VB.

  7. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    To be fair its rdsingh79.

    Wov guys! I have no words. Good work rd wov.

    Now this is really setting stage for BTM, what else can it be.
    Could you please advise the basis of your inference?

    Regards
    Nat

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    My gut feeling is that there will be a very good movement (BTM) in Nov bulletin. I think there will be atleast 6 months movement (I wish they make it current!!)

    However regarding the Demand data reduction this could be as a result of

    a. DOS/USCIS decided to release the entire 5600 visa to EB2IC - Only drawback to this theory is, EB2C demand should have been 200 or 300 (since the demand was around 3K for Oct bulletin).

    OR

    b. These came out of FY 2011 quota
    Last edited by skpanda; 10-05-2011 at 09:45 AM.

  9. #134
    My Gut feeling is Dos will move the PD a year ahead in this point .

    If i expect something and waiting nothing happens , but whenever I am away from the computer , something is happening like today's Demand data .

  10. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by natvyas View Post
    Could you please advise the basis of your inference?

    Regards
    Nat
    See skpanda's theories. In either case these are quite unprecedented steps taken, and looks like delibrate attempt to do out of ordinary tweaking.


    Quote Originally Posted by skpanda View Post
    My gut feeling is that there will be a very good movement (BTM) in Nov bulletin.

    However regarding the Demand data reduction this could be as a result of

    a. DOS/USCIS decided to release the entire 5600 visa to EB2IC - Only drawback to this theory is, EB2C demand should have been 200 or 300 (since the demand was around 3K for Oct bulletin).

    OR

    b. These came out of FY 2011 quota

  11. #136
    Nope, I dont think this is from 2011 quota, because ,the exact figure of annual allowance 5600 IC has been reduced from the demand .

  12. #137
    Yes. my comment was in the context of OP. IMHO releasing demand data early or late does not have any influence on VB to be +ve or -ve. As they were not waiting for current(Oct) intake to determine Nov demand data, As any fresh intake does not transform into demand data as there it needs to go through 2 to 6 months pre-adj process. Intake in independent of demand at least in the beginning of FY.
    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    This demand data is for Nov VB.

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    Not sure, But I think this is the first time that the pending demand for India is less than China. Does this mean anything? China seems to have reduced by around only 1,700. So if it was the yearly quota of 5.6K, shouldn't both India and China been reduced by 2.8K each?

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    Possible but i can't explain why would India get 4K+ and China get 1.5K+?

    This is not spillover that they would go by PD unless ofcourse this came out of FY 2011.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    Nope, I dont think this is from 2011 quota, because ,the exact figure of annual allowance 5600 IC has been reduced from the demand .

  15. #140
    Well, its surprising that it came down to 2675 from 8000 for EB2 IC. IMHO it is good news. Even if we expect 3K applications for the 3 month movement from last VB, DOS has to take in a lot more applications if they stand true to their word of pipeline building. I am hoping the next VB would be the actual BTM i.e end of Dec 2007.


    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    This demand data is for Nov VB.

  16. #141
    I also hope and wish they do the BTM atleast until the end of 2007. The big question remains: Will they continue to build the pipeline or do they have any other random plans.

    It is better to be cautiously optimistic to avoid disappointment later.

    We have two more days to pass (assuming they release it on Fri). Let us hope and pray for the best.

  17. #142
    Agree with you. It looks like the demand deduction is according to PD wise. Good point

    Quote Originally Posted by skpanda View Post
    Possible but i can't explain why would India get 4K+ and China get 1.5K+?

    This is not spillover that they would go by PD unless ofcourse this came out of FY 2011.

  18. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by rdsingh79 View Post
    Guys, Demand data for Nov is out. Only 2675 demand before Jan 1, 2008. This means DOS have released 5600 EB2IC quota in october itself.

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Empl...utOffDates.pdf
    I have one basic question.

    I am looking at the table for EB2. If the latest AOS filing date for EB2-I&C was August 07, how come there are 75 extra apps for C between 08 and 11 and 125 for I for the same period. Am I missing something here?

    If it has been already answered in last year's post, please pardon me for my ignorance and point me to the post, if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    My Gut feeling is Dos will move the PD a year ahead in this point .

    If i expect something and waiting nothing happens , but whenever I am away from the computer , something is happening like today's Demand data .
    Maybe you should take a couple of days off, then .

  20. #145
    ah.. I didn't expect 3k. But Thanks to both of you for eye opener.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectator View Post
    Leo,

    The movement from 15APR07 to 15JUL07 may have introduced about 2.1k PWMB for EB2-IC. That's about 26% of the total numbers for that movement.
    Quote Originally Posted by veni001 View Post
    Leo,
    Considering PERM approvals after July 2007 and other's who missed July 2007 filing deadline, EB2IC-PWMB filings for October 2011 should be around 3K.

  21. #146
    okay...Fab 5... gimme/us some analysis and what to expect and what not to from this demand data and also the date projection now.... until then i cant think of anything else...

  22. #147

    Dates are not moving significantly in Nov

    I was right about my theory how they were able to shift date in OCT after allocating all 5.6k visas to EB2 IC. DOS will have hard time to allocate spill over visas in Nov so date will remain same for Nov or can move little. In Dec they will use first Q1 spill over and able to move date till March 2008.

    If date will not move in nov more than 1 months all people with PD < March 2008 should be ready for DEC. Chances are 95 % that happening in DEC.

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    The difference between the November DD and October DD shows the movement expected to happen in October.

    The differential in numbers between China and India is roughly what would be expected if the COD moved equally in the October VB (which it did) and DOS are allocating the combined initial allocation of 5.6k in a single month.

    In fact, the numbers EB2-I will actually receive is probably somewhat higher, since EB2-I has some Porting (which won't be reflected in the DD numbers).
    Last edited by Spectator; 10-05-2011 at 10:14 AM.
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  24. #149
    I don't know what magic DOS pulled out of its hat to reduce EB2IC numbers compared to prior demand data.

    But based on what's published, it begs the question - why shouldn't USCIS make the dates current for EB2IC. And I mean current as in TODAY. At teh least there is nothing in demand data that prevents them from making it current.

    p.s. - If the numbers are true, it dramatically improves 2011 SOFAD by 6-7K to a total of 37K.
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  25. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    I don't know what magic DOS pulled out of its hat to reduce EB2IC numbers compared to prior demand data.

    But based on what's published, it begs the question - why shouldn't USCIS make the dates current for EB2IC. And I mean current as in TODAY. At teh least there is nothing in demand data that prevents them from making it current.
    wow wow wow...Q... r u serious? BTM or MKCK ( maa ki!!!!...current kardo)?????

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